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On 8 June 2018, it was proposed that this article be moved from Verizon Communications to Verizon. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
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New proposed updates for Corporate responsibility
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hi @Spintendo: I appreciate you removing the content I requested and the "advertisement" banner above. You also raised a few good issues about some of the other content you removed. This allowed me to re-evaluate the material and propose a somewhat similar yet updated version of the Corporate responsibility section. I suggest the following content additions (which are in green text). The black text is the current wording in the live article, for which I am not seeking any changes.
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The Verizon Foundation is the philanthropic arm of Verizon Communications, which donates about $70 million per year to organizations, with a focus on education and domestic violence prevention.[1] Verizon's educational initiatives include the Verizon Innovative Learning Schools program.[2] The company ran HopeLine, which provided mobile phones to victims of domestic violence.[3][4] Between 2019 and 2023, Verizon issued five green bonds for a total of $5 billion. Proceeds from its 2023 issue were earmarked to transition to more environmentally friendly electrical grids. [5] References
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Here's a rundown of the things I've suggested in this draft:
- I reinstated the first sentence, yet removed the "and energy management" from it for two reasons: the source used doesn't verify "and energy management", and that appears to apply more to Verizon Communications, not the foundation. Spintendo previously said they did not have access to the source via Nexis. Therefore, I updated the reference with a link directly to the Washington Business Journal article and included a quote in the |quote parameter of the citation template. While the Business Journal articles are sometimes paywalled, I feel this is acceptable per WP:Paywall.
- I streamlined the description of Verizon's educational initiatives, including the Verizon Innovative Learning Schools program, while citing Billboard magazine.
- I updated the verb tense surrounding HopeLine for accuracy.
- Spintendo previously questioned what was meant by "oversubscribed" in relation to the green bonds. That's a fair question, and in researching the topic, I located a more recent source (Bloomberg, 2023) that discusses Verizon's green bond issues, so I rewrote that content altogether to streamline and update it.
- I have not sought to seek reinstatement of material that cited what could be considered subpar sources.
As I work for Verizon and have a conflict of interest, I ask others to look at my draft and make edits on my behalf. Thank you, VZEric (talk) 16:33, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Reply 31-AUG-2023
Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request. Spintendo 20:24, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Edit request review 31-AUG-2023
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Updated draft for Corporate responsibility
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hello editors, I have here a new draft for the Corporate responsibility section that has better sourcing and considers recent editor feedback. The draft is below, but here is a bullet point list of changes:
- Add: Verizon grants money to organizations through its philanthropic arm, The Verizon Foundation.[1]
- Update verb tense to past tense: The company ran HopeLine, which had provided mobile phones to victims of domestic violence.[2][3]
- Add: Verizon's educational initiatives include the Verizon Innovative Learning Schools program that provides children access to STEM education programs.[4]
- Add: Between 2019 and 2023, Verizon issued five green bonds for a total of $5 billion. Proceeds from its 2023 issue were earmarked to transition to more environmentally friendly electrical grids.[5][6]
- Add: In 2020, Verizon launched its "Citizen Verizon" plan with an outline of social and environmental goals.[7][4]
- Add: Among this plan is a pledge to be completely carbon neutral by 2035.[7]
- Add: The plan also includes digital-skills training for young people.[7]
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Corporate responsibility Between 2019 and 2023, Verizon issued five green bonds for a total of $5 billion. Proceeds from its 2023 issue were earmarked to transition to more environmentally friendly electrical grids.[5][6] In 2020, Verizon launched its "Citizen Verizon" plan with an outline of social and environmental goals.[7][4] Among this plan is a pledge to be completely carbon neutral by 2035.[7] The plan also includes digital-skills training for young people.[7] References
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I am happy to review any feedback. Thanks VZEric (talk) 13:46, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- You can edit this version into the article.
- Done Geardona (talk to me?) 16:33, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you Geardona for the review. Due to my conflict of interest, I strive to maintain a firm boundary on not directly editing, even with the go ahead from a volunteer editor. Because of this, I kindly request that this be done on my behalf. Let me know if there are any questions. Thanks VZEric (talk) 17:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- No problem! Geardona (talk to me?) 21:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you Geardona for the review. Due to my conflict of interest, I strive to maintain a firm boundary on not directly editing, even with the go ahead from a volunteer editor. Because of this, I kindly request that this be done on my behalf. Let me know if there are any questions. Thanks VZEric (talk) 17:33, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 22 February 2024
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: page moved. A lot of history moved over at the target, from people boldly trying to copy-paste move or redirect to the Wireless article. – wbm1058 (talk) 01:06, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Proposal is based on
A bit of history: the current title was chosen to disambiguate the parent company from
However, in the years since things have changed. Firstly, in 2014, Verizon (Communications) bought out Vodafone's 45% share of VZW, making it a wholly owned subsidiary. That erased any meaningful distinction between the two name wise, as it made all dealings with Verizon Wireless inherently dealings with Verizon Communications, and all VZW property Verizon Communications property. In short, any reference to Verizon at that point was a reference to the parent company directly or indirectly, and treating the plain term "Verizon" as ambiguous was just being pedantic. Then, to top it off, Verizon has since undertaken a corporate reorganization and VZW ceased to exist as a distinct subsidiary, its functions transferred to the consumer and business segments, as pointed out on that articles talk page (see the talk archives). That's why the VZW article was moved to Verizon (mobile network).
Since we already recognize that people using the short form mean this company, then using the longer form for natural disambiguation becomes a case of unnecessary disambiguation when the common name of this company is simply "Verizon" and we should live the article to simpler form. oknazevad (talk) 19:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Support - Since there are no other pages under just the name Verizon and not everyone will refer to the company as Verizon, I support this. WiinterU (talk) 19:22, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The previous discussion is at Talk:Verizon Communications/Archive 3#Requested move 8 June 2018. SilverLocust 💬 12:31, 6 March 2024 (UTC)]
Is "Marketing campaigns" section notable?
Reading the marketing campaigns section, it seemed like much of it was written to promote Verizon, and aren't really that relevant to most readers. Especially the latter 4 (Inspire her mind, flipside stories, better matters, humanibility), which just seem to highlight Verizon's advertising without any pushback or analysis or anything useful.
It seems that based on the notability policy for orgs the sources are not Independent (Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Independent sources). For instance, the "Humanability campaign" paragraph has two sources, one is a trade publication (AdAge), which the policy says to use with "great care", and the other is a WSJ article that looks like churnalism. EOT3000 (talk) 18:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)