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Good afternoon DanCherek. I noted a recent edit you made to the Delta Delta Delta page, reverting vandalism. Thanks for that.

Should you have further interest in Greek societies, we'd welcome your participation on our shared project, the Fraternities and Sororities Project.

For many of us, these institutions represent a very impactful period in our lives. I know of several chapter advisors among the regular 300 participants, along with general alumni and undergrads that are Wiki-savvy. We presently keep an eye on 1,500 or so Greek pages, while a fairly substantial number of recent or dormant local chapters don't make the cut. There are perhaps 6,000 locals that do not have a Wikipedia article, and maybe 50 that do - mostly at Ivy League schools. Long ago, the

editors decided to include as national groups those societies that had three or more chapters, or locals that met a certain bar of longevity: ten years or more. We follow that same logic.

The Project page lists several items on our To Do list, but among them are:

1. Review any of our watched pages for vandalism.
2. Update chapter information for the many lists of chapters.
3. Write an article to list the Greeks on a particular campus. 50 of these have been done, so far.
4. Research a new article for a page that is missing. On our watchlist, these show up as red links.
5. Vote on whether to keep a contested page or not.

There is a debate among editors on Wikipedia about whether to aggressively delete articles or allow their inclusion, based on a notoriously fickle determination of NOTIBILITY. Once an article is factually and cleanly written, I personally favor Inclusion, in order to make life easier for future researchers. Especially for fraternity, sorority and collegiate society articles.

If this last issue is of interest, you may wish to weigh in on a recent discussion of an "Article for Deletion" or AfD: Two or three of these crop up each month. One we are currently discussing is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delta Beta Phi. Voting is simple, and the instructions are at the top. Just add a line, with your vote, to Keep or Delete (or some other option) bolded at the start of the line.

Whatever you choose to do, we would welcome your participation in this Greek-friendly project. Join by adding your name here.
Jax MN (talk) 23:09, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jax MN: Hey there! I don't have the capacity to contribute to the WikiProject, but thanks for reaching out and for all the work that y'all are doing. Best of luck. DanCherek (talk) 23:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

im new to wikipedia and im sorry for changing the muskrat pagePloopy1234 (talk) 23:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ploopy1234: Thanks for the message—please realize that Wikipedia takes that kind of stuff very seriously, so if it continues, you could be blocked from further editing. If you'd like to contribute to Wikipedia, let me know if you have any questions, or feel free to ask questions at the Teahouse. Welcome and I hope you enjoy editing and being a Wikipedian! DanCherek (talk) 23:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I added that he ran out of fuel causing him to crash please guide me on the topic how is this suicide if you guys don't know the story how can you know that I am vandalising the page Singh10052003 (talk) 08:04, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But can I add that he ran out of fuel causing him to crash and it wasn't a suicide Singh10052003 (talk) 08:06, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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original research, so you would need to provide a reliable source for that. The reason that it's described as a suicide is this Bloomberg article, which is cited in the "Investigation" section. Best, DanCherek (talk) 08:12, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply

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--Rosiestep (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging[reply]

...on the SPI report. I was engaging with them on their talk, trying to give them pointers; I guess you were familiar with the antecedents, and saw through it. I'll review your latest stuff on the CVUA page over the next day or two, but seriously - nice work. GirthSummit _(blether) 19:26, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Girth Summit: Thanks! I actually had the same experience as you but with the previous sock here. What certain people choose to do with their free time is quite baffling... DanCherek (talk) 19:41, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's annoying - certain individuals have wasted a whole load of my time here. "Like a dog returneth to its vomit..." - there are folk who just can't stay away from this site, and waste a lot of other people's time because we're all assuming good faith. That's not to say that we shouldn't continue to AGF: we need to do that even when we're doubtful. But when you're convinced - you did exactly the right thing, write a concise but convincing report and allow someone else to review and deal with it. GirthSummit _(blether) 19:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Roger that! DanCherek (talk) 19:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

	A High Speed Award for you!
	For your reverts of the vandal at Hinokitiol. Those were extremely fast! Never have I had so many editconflicts in a row. Thanks for fighting the good fight! Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 05:35, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI: Ha, thank you! Can't let that dangerous garbage stay up. Thanks for your work as well. Cheers, DanCherek (talk) 05:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your user page,

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Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, or you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Cabayi (talk) 08:36, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cabayi: That wasn't my user page—I was merely the one who left the initial COI warning for that account (and then they replaced it with promotional spam). But thank you for taking care of it! DanCherek (talk) 13:14, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My bad. It was pure spam when I saw it. I've restored the pre-spam revisions (including yours) to the history to better reflect what happened. Thanks for the ping and for putting me right. Cabayi (talk) 13:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 12:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One of your recent reversals of one of my edits confuses me. You haven't heard of Hy Nguyen? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Creditcrab (talk • contribs) 04:13, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Creditcrab: It actually doesn't matter whether or not I've personally heard of someone. Information in Wikipedia articles needs to be reliably sourced. Best, DanCherek (talk) 04:19, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@DanCherek: Did you not see the Dear hero link(https://www.dearhero.org/letter-to-hy-nguyen-written-by-sam-c/)? There is also a subreddit for him https://www.reddit.com/r/hynguyen/. Best, Creditcrab — Preceding undated comment added 04:21, 12 February 2021‎

Neither of those are reliable sources. I strongly recommend reading Wikipedia:Reliable sources, which I also linked above, in its entirety before making any further edits to articles. DanCherek (talk) 04:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DanCherek, are you being able to sign your messages on the DYK template page because I'm not being able to? --Ashleyyoursmile! 08:02, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ashleyyoursmile, I just tried it and didn't encounter any problems... see Special:Diff/1006354838. Not sure what's going on. Is your message not showing up at all or are you getting some kind of error? If we can't figure out a quick solution, feel free to just post whatever you meant to reply on my talk page and I can link to the diff on the DYK template. Best, DanCherek (talk) 12:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what is wrong, but the signature icon doesn't show up in the edit mode. Ashleyyoursmile! 13:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll just post the changes below. To the three points you raised in the review:

1) That's a good catch, I didn't see it that way, thanks for correcting.

2) Regarding the name of the band in the hook, if you see Please Please Me and Goats Head Soup, you'll find the band titles have used "the" and not "The" in the middle of the sentence.

3) Agreed that it can be condensed, so here's an alternate hook:

• ALT 1: ... that American band the Body's album I've Seen All I Need to See opens with a reading of the 1981 poem "The Kaleidoscope" by Scottish poet Douglas Dunn? Source: [1] Ashleyyoursmile! 13:09, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ashleyyoursmile: That all looks good, thanks! This is super close. The remaining thing I'd mentioned was whether the poem was actually written in 1981 (the Pitchfork source says his wife died in 1981 and he wrote the poem sometime after that). The article is fine, but I would either drop the year from the hook, or add the information about Elegies to the article and change the hook year to 1985. Does that make sense? DanCherek (talk) 13:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I missed that part. I think the year should be dropped since this source doesn't explicitly mention that "The Kaleidoscope" is a part of the Elegies. So here's the final hook:

• ALT 1: ... that American band the Body's album I've Seen All I Need to See opens with a reading of the poem "The Kaleidoscope" by Scottish poet Douglas Dunn? Source: [2]

Thank you very much for the time you've devoted in reviewing this. --Ashleyyoursmile! 13:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]