Talk:2006 Palestinian legislative election

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Deletion of exit polls

I suggest we delete the paragraph about exit-polls, as it is not very relevant now we have the final results. I'll do it in 24 hrs if no objections. Bertilvidet 17:41, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The same for the pre-election poll paragraph, even though it obviously remains relevant to mention that previous polls suggest a new victory for Fatah. Bertilvidet 19:52, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OPPOSE. It's still valid as a historical event describing what happened at the time. Obviously the final result is more important, but it is still a valid piece of information relating to the election. Suggest you instead move to teh end of teh article. AndrewRT 11:04, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Structure

Planning to add in some more info on the minor slates, but want to restructure first. Perhaps having a new section on lists/parties and moving the stuff abour Hamas, Fatah, Future to this section. What do you think? AndrewRT 13:06, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fine with me. I created the article as pretty bare-bones, hoping others would flesh it out. --Jfruh 13:42, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can somebody map it?

Anyone want to take a stab at drawing an election map based on this?

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/01/25/international/20060125_palestianELECTION_GRAPHIC.html

--Jfruh 14:51, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Results

Does anyone know when results will be available? Is there a deadline by which a coalition must be formed, if one is needed? Thanks. Hughcharlesparker 16:49, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about the results. The PNA govt. is a presidential system, with the PM appointed by the president, which means that strictly speaking a coalition isn't necessary to run the show even if no party or formal coalition has a majority on the PLC. However, Abbas has said that he would resign if the new PLC consistently blocks his legislation. --Jfruh 17:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The initial preliminary results are due by 7:00 pm local time today, or 12:00 eastern time. I'll try to post something when those results are announced. --Alpharigel 16:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Offical results give 76 to Hamas, 43 to Fatah, with 13 to others.Xerex 18:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Final results are released today: 74 seats to Hamas, 45 to Fatah. [1] Bertilvidet 17:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

future elections

im deletin this category seeing as it's already happened ... XYaAsehShalomX never mind...i didnt realise it would also delete the box at the top...

Why two tags?

Their are two tags on top of this article, one says it is a currently ongoing event the other says it about ongoing/upcoming elections. The second one renders the first one redundant, wouldn't it be better if instead of currently ongoing event, there were a tag linking this article to a wikinews article?

I've linked to the wikinews article. -- Avenue 11:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic Names

Can someone give the Arabic names of Change and Reform and other lists? Adam 06:15, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Length of terms?

How long are they elected for? Does anyone know? Jeff

From the draft constitution which is the basis for these elections (and of Abu Mazen last year):

Members of the House of Representatives are elected for a five-year term. They may be re-elected more than once. It is impermissible to extend the term of the House of Representatives except in the case of necessity and by a law approved by two-third majority of the house members.

Ramallite (talk) 19:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, --Jeff 16:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't worry too much about the length of the terms since there doesn't seem to be much chance that Hamas will allow another election to take place. 6SJ7 09:52, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That is absolutely uncalled for. And anyway, Hamas is in no position to allow or disallow elections any more than the current US Republican party is in a position to mess with US election dates. Plus, it doesn't have the required 2/3 majority anyway. Ramallite (talk) 16:51, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Resulting Government

I'd like to add a article/section on the new government that's forming. Can anyone suggest where's the best place to put it? Are there any precedents/naming conventions I can copy? Should it just be a section here, a linked article or what? AndrewRT 11:07, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Electoral system, NPOV

I'm not keen on the current edit. [2]

"Hamas won 44 percent of the popular vote but 56 percent of the seats, while Fatah won 42 percent of the popular vote but only 34 percent of the seats." according to the New York Times [1].

This is a statement of fact not opinion and therefore I'm not happy with it being attributed to NYT.

Analysis of election results indicates that both factions won seats in proportion to their shares of the vote for the 66 list seats

Surely this is a statement of the obvious for a proportional system. Hamas and Fatah are parties or lists, not factions.

Hamas is overrepresented in the 66 district seats because it nominated more strategically than Fatah and did not have to compete with third parties and independents for the same voters' support.[2]

This is a statement of opinion (why Hamas is overrepresented) not fact, and therefore should be attributed. What evidence is presented to support this view? Why are third parties assumed to be competing with Fatah and not Hamas? AndrewRT 17:52, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Aftermath

I intend to add several new sub-sections since this topic pays insufficient attention to how Hamas was prevented from governing properly after its victory in the democratic 2006 PA elections, and how internal armed rivalry with Fatah developed. I will later reflect this in the Fatah–Hamas conflict. Since it is a major edit, I offer it in "Talk" for discussion prior to saving in the article. I repectfully request that the content be discusses based on facts and demonstrable support be provided for opinions, especially as to WP:POV and WP:RS: Erictheenquirer (talk) 10:45, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Having had a quick skim through, I have a couple of comments:
  1. Some of the headings are misleading – specifically the two "impediments to the Democratic Election Process" bits. These refer to events after the election, so were impediments to the election.
  2. Most of the information would be more appropriate in
    Palestinian government of March 2006
    , as they're more about the government that was created after the election.
Number 57 11:35, 20 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Number 57:Indeed I hit the 'save' button too quickly - 'mea culpa'
Your comment is appreciated. I had some difficulty in naming these sections, so am quite willing to change them. Having said that, I believe that the titles are appropriate because 1) the actions WERE impediments to the governing process and 2) the governing process was meant to follow from the democratic elections.
I see them all as an Aftermath of the elections, and that is the section into which I put them.
I differ with you that most of these sections had to do with the actual implementation of government. They are not about how Hamas chose to or did govern.
I appreciate your contributions, and would welcome further comments. Once again my apologies for the quick trigger finger. Erictheenquirer (talk) 11:53, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Erictheenquirer: You are correct that they were impediments to governance after the elections (we don't differ on that), but the fact is that they were not impediments to the elections themselves, so the titles ("impediments to the Democratic election process") are not appropriate. Also, the Manual of Style requires that headings be in sentence case (only proper nouns should be capitalised). Number 57 12:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Number 57:Many thanks for all of that. I have a lot to learn still re Wiki protocol. How about "Post-election impediments" being worked into the various sub-headings? Erictheenquirer (talk) 13:48, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Implemented Erictheenquirer (talk) 15:26, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Haniya or Haniyeh?

Inconsistent spelling should be fixed. 177.170.130.27 (talk) 18:38, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Cheers, Number 57 20:02, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lists, not parties

The contest was between lists, not parties, if the table templates allow this. Utilisateur19911 (talk) 18:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

74 seats for Hamas in the PLC

The article (and its translations) claims Hamas to have gained 74 seats as a result of the elections. But that number does not match the quoted share of votes ist received (44%) and contradicts the cited source for the election results:

https://web.archive.org/web/20081029054121/http://www.elections.ps/pdf/Final_Results_PLC_Summary_Lists_Seats_2_En.pdf

stating 29 seats, actually. 84.174.148.237 (talk) 07:11, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 2006 Palestinian election utilized a mixed system where half of the seats were distributed proportionally through the votes percentage of national lists, while the other half was based on first-past-the-post district system.
Hamas won 29 seats through proportional national list and 45 seats through first-past-the-post national districts, giving the grand total of 74 seats.[1] Brat Forelli🦊 09:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks. Perhaps that could be stated more clearly in the article. And why did they form a „grand coalition“ with Fatah? Shouldn’t have 74 seats be enough for a majority in a house 136 seats? Pardon my ignorance. 2003:DA:A70D:A209:DEB:6F46:6F64:F7AE (talk) 14:19, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Birringer, Thomas. "Results of the Elections of the Palestinian Legislative Council on January 25, 2006". Konrad Adenauer Foundation.
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