Talk:2020 stock market crash/Archive 1

I've done some cleanup after a sloppy merge. In that work, I noticed that the term "Black Monday" is used ambiguously in this article. It might mean the Black Monday of 1987, or the Black Monay of 2020. Is there concensus on how these Mondays should be identified? -- Mikeblas (talk) 15:54, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

From what I can see, IMO, the references in the article to this term are all pretty clear in their contexts. Benica11 (talk) 16:58, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

There are multiple black mondays. Examples include Black Monday (1894) and Black Monday (2011). The term is not reserved for a single day. CoronavirusPlagueDoctor (talk) 21:01, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Both 9 March and 16 March 2020 are now widely called "Black Monday", so I have disambiguated by adding the exact dates to the section names. Renerpho (talk) 18:40, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Towards the end of 2019 I remember significant discussions around the inverted yield curve predicting another recession, is this relevant? Faissaloo (talk) 19:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

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Also, these are two independent events with the 2019 yield curve inversion having different reasons than the current crash (Coronavirus). The yield curve inversion is a long-term indicator and the current crash is a short term event. --hroest 01:42, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

But this article is not about the Coronavirus crash, it's about the stock market crash of 2020. As discussed elsewhere on this talk page, there is no reason to assume a single cause even when one appears as obvious as here. This crash is not caused by the coronavirus alone. If a recession had been predicted last year then that's potentially relevant as a contributing factor/ as backstory. Renerpho (talk) 01:48, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I agree, that is likely the case and as often, these events are multi-factorial. However, to include that in the article we would require a credible

WP:TOOEARLY for this to make the connection between short and long term, especially as these events are so recent and a long-term view is not yet possible. --hroest

02:49, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Merging them is fine, but I think Black Monday II (March 16) at least deserves a bold headline. After all it was the second greatest one-day crash ever!

Black Monday II was just created. Should probably be merged here as the other articles were. Pinging @LordParsifal: who created the new article. Schazjmd (talk) 21:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it should be merged. Inventing names for these events is technically

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Because all the content there is already in this article, I went ahead and made that page into a redirect. I don't think there is yet a need to spin out sub-pages from this article.

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It's not WP:OR. 16 March has been called Black Monday by many news outlets as early as 16 hours ago. Like by The Straights Times (referring to crash in Asia before it hit Europe and the US hours later), FXStreet, Asia Times, and others in multiple languages, like German erneuter schwarzer Montag ("another black monday") from Deutschlandfunk.[1] Renerpho (talk) 23:53, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

This and the section We're looking at another 'Black Monday are basically the same discussion, so I am

With Futures crashing in Wall Street today, and Europe set for the same fate, we may be looking at another 'Black Monday' within the same month. That crash is due to the Fed cutting rates to 0%, which hasn't being done since 2008 thus deepening recession fears. Wiki users need to use other names to describe these significant downturns as the market crashes multiple times throughout the month of March, maybe even calling the month "Black March" or something and describing each significant fall? Share your thoughts and any sources describing names for Black Monday and Thursday. Foxterria (talk) 23:11, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

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CommonKnowledgeCreator: I agree entirely, the seperate days of crashing is apart of a larger ongoing crash, the Market's aren't being as romantic as they have being in the past by giving us one unique day of a crash. These articles need to be deleted, another crash on Monday should hopefully convince other wiki users to do so. Foxterria (talk

) 23:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

They don't need to be deleted as the names were used in our sources. They will very likely exist as redirects. —Locke Cole • t • c 00:29, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

The sources are themselves questionable at best in terms of reliability for this sort of thing. As I've said elsewhere, Wikipedia already disfavors industry trade press when it comes to corporate and product articles. Just because you can find some publication out there using a polemical name for an event doesn't mean we should use it.

We avoid "-gate" and other scandal-phrases like these except where there's widespread, enduring usage. Because we have merges underway for the existing articles, those redirects will likely persist, but we shouldn't be creating "Black Monday (16 March 2020)" anytime soon, at least until the academic press actually uses it. 199.66.69.88 (talk

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That's a very nice strawman you've made there. I like what you did with the hair. —Locke Cole • t • c 05:42, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Needlessly rude. Surprised you aren’t still on an editing restriction. 199.66.69.88 (talk) 02:35, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

You'll get over it. —Locke Cole • t • c 02:55, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

It isn't Wikipedia's job to come up with either the name or the analysis by itself. If "Black March" becomes a common name in reliable sources it might be usable, and if it doesn't then it's not. —Nizolan ^{(talk · c.)} 13:47, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

@Nizolan:It isn't, but we seem to have already done so with "black monday" and "black thursday". We should refer to them as the "Crash of X date" to avoid the term of "Black", considering there aren't many news agencies or reliable sources using those terms. I was simply using 'Black March' as a possible overarch, or calling for other people to provide sources which describe their names. Foxterria (talk) 21:56, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

The Black Thursday section (maybe the entire article) could be

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• Australia - S&P/ASX 200 - 12%^[1]
• Argentina - MERVAL - 24%^[2]
• Brazil - IBOVESPA - 19%^[3]
• Canada - S&P/TSX Composite Index - 17%^[4]
• China - Shanghai Composite - 5%^[5]
• France - CAC 40 - 25%^[6]
• Germany - DAX - 25%^[7]
• India - BSE SENSEX - 10%^[8]
• Indonesia - IDX Composite - 12%^[9]
• Italy - FTSE MIB - 30%^[10]
• Japan - Nikkei 225 - 19%^[11]
• Mexico - S&P/BMV IPC - 9%^[12]
• Russia - RTSI - 27%^[13]
• Saudi Arabia -
  TASI - 17%^[14]
• South Africa - South Africa Top 40 - 18%
• South Korea - KOSPI - 15%
• Turkey - XU100 - 15%^[15]
• United Kingdom - FTSE 100 - 20%^[16]
• United States -
  S&P 500 - 10%^[17]

Losses would be about double that for many when counted from the January/February 2020 highs, which in most cases represented all-time highs. Counting from March 9th seems somewhat arbitrary to be, as it's not really the beginning of the crash. It worked when the table was just about the Black Monday and Black Thursday events, before the articles were merged, but that practice may have to be adopted to the new scope of the article. The data in the cited references generally covers all of 2020 and before. The available sources I could find that cover the South African and South Korean indices are blacklisted by Wikipedia (investing.com, tradingeconomics.com), hence why there is no reference for these.Renerpho (talk) 07:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Absolutely, this article, which only focuses on the United States for now, should be globalized. And if the pandemic ends up being a carbon copy of the

Financial crisis of 2007–08, it can be renamed to 2020 coronavirus pandemic crisis. 9March2019 (talk

) 17:30, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Also absolutely agree this article should be globalised. What it most notable about the last few weeks is the unprecedented synchronisation between all global stock markets. Individual records are being set all over the place (e.g. largest drop for the Eurostoxx market in its history, as it wasn't around in 1987). Should be the

2020 global stock market crash. Britishfinance (talk

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"The People's Bank of China announced that it would reduce is reserve requirement"

Please change "is" to "its" 2601:5C6:8080:100:AC6B:A0E0:1FBB:1032 (talk) 01:24, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done —Locke Cole • t • c 03:18, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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Withdrawn - please remove.

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Hello,

Section 24–28 February has grammatical error:

> On 28 February, stock markets worldwide reported their largest single-week declines since the 2008 financial crisis,[65][66][67] while oil futures saw

>> their largest single week decline in since >> 2009

Since I do not have edit privileges, I'm raising this to the attention of anyone else that does.

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Should the title have Coronavirus in it? The pandemic is the direct cause of the incident. Such as 2020 coronavirus pandemic stock market crash? AmericanAir88^(talk) 17:04, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

This was discussed recently, see Talk:2020_stock_market_crash#Requested_move_14_March_2020. Useight (talk) 18:00, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

@AmericanAir88: No, it wouldn't be a good idea. There is a global consensus in stock brokers that the pandemic isn't the direct cause, but an accelerant of a market that was already slowing down and (potentially) about to crash (inverted curve yield). Coronavirus is one of the main causes, but as the situation unfolds, it's becoming clear that liquidity, high housing prices, consumer halt in growth (even before the pandemic, this was occurring), collapse of interest rates, trade wars and debt bubbles are all factors in the crash. It's too variable to simply blame it on COVID-19, and doing so would gloss over other important factors of the crash. Foxterria (talk) 20:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Okay, we're probably in for a Black Monday 3.0. Pacific stocks are already down 8% and it's quite likely that this Black Monday will be worse then Black Monday I, and plausible it'll be worse then Black Monday II as unemployment rates are expected to skyrocket the most in the history of the United States (According to Goldman Sach's predictions, 2.25 million will lose their jobs this week). Same affects being felt vibrating across Europe, Asia and Oceania. We need better names, come on - 3 "Black Monday's" in one month is kinda ridiculous, and though it's possible we're about to reach the bottom of this crash no one knows whether or not there's gonna be ANOTHER crash on top of that. We need to change the names, maybe the "Crash of X date" would be more suiting in this situation? Considering there are so many global crashes occurring right now. Foxterria (talk) 23:35, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Unserious suggestions: son of Black Monday? Black Monday's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate?

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I've made it indefinite. Hopefully, that will make your life easier! --regentspark (comment) 13:38, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I would like to put in a request for an updated graph at the top of the page. This one is weeks out of date. Ditto for the table graphs throughoout. The topic is important and current, and graphs help readers understand it. Thanks. 75.101.104.17 (talk) 01:29, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

As I've maintained File:Stock market crash (2020).svg for about a week, it's usually updated whenever the market closes lower (my intention is to "freeze" it once the market goes back up, unless consensus emerges to continue updating the image). That being said, it was updated just yesterday, and unless something changes Monday, will likely be updated again after the market closes Monday. Which graph is "weeks out of date"? —Locke Cole • t • c 01:36, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

I understand. I get your point that the Dow Jones graph will be frozen once there is a turnaround. I also see below that folks are asking for the removal of other tables, which were lagging. For what it's worth, i support globalization of the article because modern markets operate around the world. Thanks for all you do. 75.101.104.17 (talk) 17:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

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Are people calling it "Black March", though? I haven't seen that term actually used in the wild (and a news search just now turns up basically nothing).

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Can we get rid of the table summaries in the article? They only focus on the Dow Jones Industrial Average, when the crash has affected global stock market indices (Japan's Nikkei Average, Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index, etc.). 9March2019 (talk) 01:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I think that we should remove the table summaries, and instead convert them possibly to 2020 Stock Market Crash in the United States, and make various sub-articles to globalize this article. Foxterria (talk) 04:28, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes, this article should focus on causes and effects of the global stock market crash; subarticles are necessary for country-specific perspectives and to satisfy

Wikipedia:SIZE standards. 9March2019 (talk

) 22:30, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

If I create table summaries not only

Tadawul, FTSE, DAX, CAC, MIB, RTS, TSX & BOVESPA or WTI, Brent, Gold & Bonds yields, Can I re-added them in this article? LibraFM (talk

) 16:20, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Problem is, including those tables will make the article far

Wikipedia:TOOBIG; it's better to have separate articles for those. And as for the table summaries themselves, they should only include five key dates for each stock market index: (1) peak, (2) 20% decline from peak, (3) trough, (4) 20% growth from trough, and (5) new high. 9March2019 (talk

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The last column may or may not be needed, but is provided here to explain why each of the five milestones are important. 9March2019 (talk) 21:16, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I think this page can be a good article.

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CommonKnowledgeCreator: It appears much of it was excised by @Foxterria: in this edit about four days ago. The edit summary said future edits would make the article take on a more international tone, however ironically it appears some of the international information from March 13 was removed.. —Locke Cole • t • c

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@Locke Cole: It wasn't removed, actually I didn't edit any of the text at all, I just re-arranged it to format it for later edits. From what I can tell, 10-11 March and 13 March are still in the article. Foxterria (talk) 01:30, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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CommonKnowledgeCreator: in these three edits. Your removal was made in this edit (which I already linked to above). —Locke Cole • t • c

03:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

As of just now, it's being quite obvious that this article has being somewhat focused on the United States. I've done a complete overhaul of the layout to make the article more globalized, with response pages linked under the tab 'Response' for now, though this can be change to something like 'Impact by Region'. This is to make sure that the article is not centered on one stock market in particular, as it has being with the Dow Jones. Help me continue to work to clean up the article (We really don't have to mention every day), and globalize the article even more so with it's content. If you want be specific on the impacts regionally, create a page for the provided country or use the page currently made. Please use this section to discuss further globalization of the article and detailing changes made to the article. Foxterria (talk) 06:08, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Content pertaining to daily stock market performances should also be moved to respective sub-articles (country-specific) so as to conform to Wikipedia:Article size standards. 9March2019 (talk) 12:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

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Inaccurate line comparing 2008 market crash to todays market

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The below line in paragraph 2 should be changed as it is not accurate (line in bold):

Line in question: "Despite a temporary rally on 13 March (with markets posting their best day since 2008), all three Wall Street indexes fell more than 12% when markets re-opened on 16 March.[16][17]"

The markets did not post their best day since 2008. This should be removed. Krisb1220 (talk) 00:30, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

 Already done As far as I can see this has been removed. Goldsztajn (talk) 18:26, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

I've been maintaining File:Stock market crash (2020).svg (which is used at the top of the article), however I'd decided that I'd only update it when it hit new overall lows. With that limitation in mind, it's been some time since the graph has been updated, so I was wondering if anyone felt the graph should be updated so long as there are still periods where we have big drops, or if I should stick to only updating when it's hits new lows. Feel free to !vote below, or add new choices if you have a better idea, but here are the two choices I can think of:

• Update only on new lows – only update when we hit new lows deeper than any already recorded
• Update for weeks with volatility – update during volatile weeks where we see drops (1% or more?) and increases

I'm leaning towards the 2nd choice, which means I'd update it through this week. Thank you for your input! —Locke Cole • t • c 04:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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Unless we get some opinions to the contrary, I'll go with that. =) —Locke Cole • t • c 20:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

The second choice sounds good to me, too.

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• I prefer the second choice too - bounces should also be shown. Juxlos (talk) 02:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Greetings, some things. Today, after European markets closed mostly down, many American markets noted some of their worst drops since March 20 of this year

It looks like the

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It appears to be "just" 4% or so? Didn't even trigger circuit breakers, not really comparable to the previous crashes which gets the Black moniker. Juxlos (talk) 02:02, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

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Could anyone put the references in a scrollbox ? As things currently stand, the reference sections represents more than half of the page length. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VoidOutput (talk • contribs) 09:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Trump crash. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Hog Farm (talk) 20:07, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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According to the FDIC's website for the list of bank failures, the most recent bank that failed is The First State Bank based in Barboursville, West Virginia. ^[1]

From what was issued on the website, MVB Bank, Inc. of Fairmont, West Virginia had acquired all deposit accounts. Operations will continue nominally and all money was insured by the FDIC resulting in customers retaining their money.^[2]

Would this be of some importance to the current situation, or were they already going under prior to the COVID-19 situation and market turmoil?

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I am very busy in RL and have a list of GAN's I am addressing. However, be careful here of creating a newsfeed of events in stock markets (e.g.

WP:NOTNEWS). There is a lot of text in this article about daily price movements. Ultimately, in 2 years time, all a reader will want is the dates of the movements and any records set (in % or "points" terms), and a short(er) description of the events that set off that days movement. We are here to catalogue/record the most notable facts, most other stuff gets deleted away over time imho. Best of luck with it. Britishfinance (talk

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I feel bad saying this, but I've never really been a good writer. :( I'm sorry, but I hope you get the assistance you need! =) —Locke Cole • t • c 06:27, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

Thanks for the work in documenting this important time.

I propose titling this crash as the “Great Lockdownturn” based on a piece I wrote on this: https://medium.com/@lightdev/return-from-the-great-lockdownturn-b16b87f2e7be

Thank You, Prakash

--Lightdev (talk) 09:35, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose* - COVID-19 wasn't the only cause of the recent stock market crash, oil price plunge and economic fears/uncertainty played a part without any influence to the coronavirus pandemic. 9March2019 (talk) 12:15, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Oppose that is a literal blog post. Juxlos (talk) 15:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

How are the world stock markets doing? It seems like the last date is April 1. Since then the Dow Jones has rebounded over 3000 points.Rayduece (talk) 06:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)rayduece

We should consolidate all the dates into a "Timeline" section so that we can have other sections, some of which could include: • Causes • Responses by Country • Similarities to other crashes etc... Mapmaker345 (talk) 16:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I wrote an article on an investor who seems to have predicted the stock market crash that is under review here:

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Change: "In April 2019, the U.S yield curve inverted, which sparked fears of a 2020 recession across the world.[37] The inverted yield curve and trade war fears prompted a sell-off in global stock markets during March 2019, which prompted more fears that a recession was imminent.[38] Rising debt levels in the European Union and the United States had always being a concern for economists. However, in 2019, that concern was heightened during the economic slowdown, and economists began warning of a 'debt bomb' occurring during the next economic crisis. Debt in 2019 was 50% higher than that during the height of the Great Financial Crisis.[39] Economists[who?] have argued that this increased debt is what led to debt defaults in economies and businesses across the world during the recession.[40][41] In September 2019, the Federal Reserve began intervening in the role of investor to provide funds in the repo markets, which would play a crucial factor in triggering the events leading up to the crash; the repo rate spiked above 8% during that time."

To:

In April 2019, the U.S yield curve inverted, which sparked fears of a 2020 recession across the world.[37] The inverted yield curve and trade war fears prompted a sell-off in global stock markets during March 2019, which prompted more fears that a recession was imminent.[38]

Rising debt levels in the European Union and the United States had always being a concern for economists. However, in 2019, that concern was heightened during the economic slowdown, and economists began warning of a 'debt bomb' occurring during the next economic crisis. Debt in 2019 was 50% higher than that during the height of the Great Financial Crisis.[39] Economists[who?] have argued that this increased debt is what led to debt defaults in economies and businesses across the world during the recession.[40][41]

In September 2019, the Federal Reserve began intervening in the role of investor to provide funds in the repo markets, which would play a crucial factor in triggering the events leading up to the crash; the repo rate spiked above 8% during that time."

• There's no chain of causation between these points (see sources), and therefore do not grammatically belong in the same paragraph.

• There is no evidence within the source material that these points are "causes" of the subject of the article, though they are considered as such, and should probably be relegated to a different section. Simmm84 (talk) 04:33, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a

WP:INDENT - I though somebody had already replied to it). Anyway, in my opinion, the paragraph is proper because all of these events are closely linked in time; separating them does not appear necessary. They're also clearly a part of the background of the situation, even if they're not the immediate cause (maybe a simple solution for this would be to simply remove the "Cause" subheading from the "Background" section. @Simmm84: Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs

) 13:48, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

That sounds like a good compromise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simmm84 (talk • contribs) 05:48, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

The sources for the information under the background heading do no indicate that the provided information is a cause for the stock market crash, and therefore should strictly be considered background Simmm84 (talk) 05:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Why is this an ongoing crisis if there is no information on April or May? Could that be because the Market has recovered significantly, i.e. back above 25,000? That Bull market sure didn't last long. As the President said it wouldn't. Subman758 (talk) 15:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

@Subman758: This is usually a typical pattern in stock market crashes. Most stock market crashes take around 200 to 500 days to run it's course, and through that period the stock market goes up and down as it continues to crash. Sometimes, it can be refferred to as a "bear market trap". In the next year or two it'll be obvious when the stock market stopepd crashing. Foxterria (talk) 10:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@Foxterria: Get the gang together from February and March. We need to be proactive if a bear market trap does occur. I'm more than willing to write summaries of the daily price movements for the main benchmark stock market indices of the G20, as well as any monetary/fiscal stimulus policies announced in those same countries, any central government credit rating downgrades and so on if a subsequent downward market trend occurs. However, during the market downturn in February and March, I got burnt out and I'm still exhausted because there are any number of other topics that I record information about on Wikipedia. I'm drowning in info.

I remember that some people last time asked about how to set up Google Alerts. If you just type "Google Alert" in the Google search engine, the first result is a link that will take you to the Google web page for setting up email alerts to your Gmail account. The ones I was using were "[Name of country] fiscal stimulus", "[Name of central bank]", "[Name of country] central bank", "[Finance minister name]", and "[Central bank executive name]". "[Name of benchmark stock market index] bear market" probably would be the most efficient one for articles recording that a benchmark stock market index has been declared to be in a bear market. If people just leave the links on the talk page, I'll more than gladly summarize them in the article. Countries other than the G20 are of course more than welcome but preferably limit them to articles recording a macroeconomic policy shift, a central government credit rating downgrade, or articles that summarize the entire market trend because we don't want the article to get even more overloaded than it already is. --

Also, references without paywalls preferred (e.g. CNBC, Reuters). --

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Although if there is a choice between a CNBC or Reuters article and a local English-language daily newspaper without paywalls, give it to the local. --

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71.248.161.3 (talk) 20:56, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

The markets recovered and continued to climb.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Danski454 (talk) 21:05, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Gains are subject to verification though. 9March2019 (talk) 05:35, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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change "is" to "was" in the first sentence. It might still be 2020, but the article is talking about something that happened...

In the very first sentence: "The 2020 stock market crash is a global stock market crash that began on 20 February 2020.", shouldn't it be "The 2020 stock market crash was a global stock market crash that began on 20 February 2020."

The rest of the first paragraphs are written in past tense. ErikWG (talk) 12:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. Keeping this one in present tense as no indication that the crashes are over, as coronavirus is still ongoing. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:02, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

The S&P 500 index just closed at a new high today. 68.134.239.246 (talk) 02:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

The stock market has greatly recovered since the crash earlier this year. The S&P 500 is currently at its all-time high. This article is outdated, and it should be updated to include accurate information about the market. Momo824 (talk) 10:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Previous similar proposals such as this has been shot down by editors mentioning bull traps, but I agree - the crash should be represented in past tense when every reputable source describe them as such. If it crashes again we can just flip it back. Juxlos (talk) 13:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

As corrections/reversals/etc. seem to have been documented here, would it be worthwhile to document the recent worldwide market movement since the beginning of September? Echonioni (talk) 01:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

@Echonioni: Yes, I believe that it would be a great addition to this article. Momo824 (talk) 03:11, 28 September 2020 (UTC)