Talk:Abdel Hamid al-Sarraj
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He's still living in Cairo at the moment. I had a chance to meet him once a couple of years back. He's not allowed to speak publicly though. Yazan (talk) 18:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, I was about to ask you about his current situation. Interesting that you've met him. Is there any source out there that has any info on Sarraj today? --Al Ameer son (talk) 19:36, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- I can't find any new sources on him today. He is a rather interesting man, and quite a debater (you can't really tell that by his actions though). Yazan (talk) 22:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- I added some info from al-Ahram which mentions he escaped from Mezzeh Prison in 1962 and that recently (2005) Mustafa Tlass was lobbying for his return to Syria. It says he was expected to return later that year, but I have seen no confirmation that he actually returned. Did you see him in Cairo before '05? Obviously, this article could use some more info on him (Aburish is quite critical of him, calling him a criminal, thuggish, brutal, etc., but I'm not sure if we should add any of this due to violations of WP:NPOV. We could just put he was known to be brutal. I got some info on his involvement in the 1958 Lebanon crisis and the 1959 Mosul Rebellion that I will add later. Anything else you got go ahead and add. It should be C-class by the end of tomorrow ;) --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)]
- I know that he helped bomb the Iraqi pipelines that used to go through Syria during the 1956 crisis, which was particularly important for the UK. And I am positive that he did not go back, as of this minute. I met him in 2006, and he's a relative of a good friend of mine, so I can vouch that he's still in Cairo.Yazan (talk) 22:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- I read on the bombings of British oil pipelines in Syria, but did not know that Saraj was involved in it. He also seems to have been quite involved in the action of overthrowing Husni al-Zaim. If you've got the sources on any of these, needless to say, you should add the info to the article. As for his residency in Cairo, since we don't have a source yet, I'll just keep the present line "According to al-Ahram Weekly, he was expected to return in late 2005." Do you think Arabic-language sources would have info on his current state? --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- I will try to find some sources on this later on. Nonetheless, Sarraj's brutality is well-documented, and many Syrians feel that his term was the first full-fledged police state in Syria after independence. Yazan (talk) 23:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- Indeed, that's what all the sources say ("police state"). --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- I will try to find some sources on this later on. Nonetheless, Sarraj's brutality is well-documented, and many Syrians feel that his term was the first full-fledged police state in Syria after independence. Yazan (talk) 23:12, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- I read on the bombings of British oil pipelines in Syria, but did not know that Saraj was involved in it. He also seems to have been quite involved in the action of overthrowing Husni al-Zaim. If you've got the sources on any of these, needless to say, you should add the info to the article. As for his residency in Cairo, since we don't have a source yet, I'll just keep the present line "According to al-Ahram Weekly, he was expected to return in late 2005." Do you think Arabic-language sources would have info on his current state? --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- I know that he helped bomb the Iraqi pipelines that used to go through Syria during the 1956 crisis, which was particularly important for the UK. And I am positive that he did not go back, as of this minute. I met him in 2006, and he's a relative of a good friend of mine, so I can vouch that he's still in Cairo.Yazan (talk) 22:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- I added some info from al-Ahram which mentions he escaped from Mezzeh Prison in 1962 and that recently (2005) Mustafa Tlass was lobbying for his return to Syria. It says he was expected to return later that year, but I have seen no confirmation that he actually returned. Did you see him in Cairo before '05? Obviously, this article could use some more info on him (Aburish is quite critical of him, calling him a criminal, thuggish, brutal, etc., but I'm not sure if we should add any of this due to violations of
- I can't find any new sources on him today. He is a rather interesting man, and quite a debater (you can't really tell that by his actions though). Yazan (talk) 22:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
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