Talk:Benjamin Flores Jr.
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Requested move 22 November 2016
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Move to Benjamin Flores Jr. This is the name that it used in the article, and it appears that there is consensus in this discussion that the subject's real name is acceptable. (non-admin closure) Bradv 00:28, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
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- Support, Move back In ictu oculi (talk) 08:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
- Question - All but two of the sources and external links in the article use "Lil' P-Nut". A.V. Club uses "Benjamin 'Lil' P-Nut' Flores, Jr." IMDb uses "Benjamin Flores Jr." The links you provide that omit "Lil' P-Nut" are earlier. I'm curious as to the parallel Ron Artest/]
- @WP:RS began referring to him the same way (note: it's the other way around – the links at the article seem to be earlier than the sources I provide above)... P.S. I would like to add some additional sourcing to the article (e.g. perhaps some of the sources I cite above) – I might be able to get to that this holiday weekend. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:29, 22 November 2016 (UTC)]
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- Note that this is all ignoring how Flores is credited in his major roles, as outlined in the original move proposal, and I'd say that that is probably more important than how garden-variety press sources refer to him. Also, I provided 4 other sources that use the "long form" of the name, which means 6–8 sources (depending on how you want to count it) go with the long form (and among these sources is Variety, Entertainment Weekly, and the Chicago Sun-Times). None of this means that "Benjamin Flores, Jr." is necessarily the "wrong" title for the article, just that it's not as clear cut as you're making it out. As long as the other exists as a redirect, I think either "Benjamin "Lil' P-Nut" Flores, Jr." or "Benjamin Flores, Jr." are acceptable destination titles for the article. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:20, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
- Per WP:Precision. Readers can recognize the guy's real name more than his combined name, i.e. readers come first. However, per WP:Criteria (again), if the decision to rename the title is difficult for you, maybe we can together reach an agreement to see which criteria fit best. By the way, I removed the comma preceding Jr. from the proposal per previous consensus months ago. George Ho (talk) 05:05, 25 November 2016 (UTC)]
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- Note that this is all ignoring how Flores is credited in his major roles, as outlined in the original move proposal, and I'd say that that is probably more important than how garden-variety press sources refer to him. Also, I provided 4 other sources that use the "long form" of the name, which means 6–8 sources (depending on how you want to count it) go with the long form (and among these sources is Variety, Entertainment Weekly, and the Chicago Sun-Times). None of this means that "Benjamin Flores, Jr." is necessarily the "wrong" title for the article, just that it's not as clear cut as you're making it out. As long as the other exists as a redirect, I think either "Benjamin "Lil' P-Nut" Flores, Jr." or "Benjamin Flores, Jr." are acceptable destination titles for the article. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:20, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
- Anyone care to close this now?... There is clear consensus that "Lil' P-Nut" is the wrong article title. We just need an Admin, etc. to pick one name or the other, and we're good to go. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:56, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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