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Do we feel the need to mention her boyfriend and his name. I removed it previously due to it being a non notable person, and saying we typically reserve the mention for spouses and maybe engagements, but it was re-added so discussing here. From source I read they have been dating less than a year, and we don't need to track her dating life here. I don't think mentioning a boyfriend that isn't notable is needed at all. WikiVirusC^(talk) 13:27, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keeps getting back in, with no discussion here. HurricaneHiggins (talk · contribs) I don't know if you saw this comment. To IP 72.136.95.67 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), I already asked to discuss on talk page in my edit comment so idk if you will even see this but as I said a husband would be worth mentioning, hence why Gloria Allred has it in her article. Adding/removing peoples current/former boyfriends/girlfriends isn't needed in a encyclopedia. WikiVirusC^(talk) 20:00, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am the one who added in the part about her dating Edward Owen - happy to have it removed or altered if you feel the name does not add the specifics. I typically add 'X is currently married to X, with whom X has X children. They live together in X". Depending on sourcing. Maybe we could state "Vasquez has a partner, Edward, with whom she lives in X"? @

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Married people are fine adding in. In this case they are just dating, if they were married, if they had children together, or maybe even engaged, I would agree with the mentioning of his name. Living together I wouldn't consider enough, but that doesn't matter in this case as they live in different countries. WikiVirusC^(talk) 00:16, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Sounds good. Although it wasn't just you that has added it in, its been added in multiple times by others since and probably will again. I was hoping others would discuss it here. WikiVirusC^(talk) 00:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's worth mentioning because of everyone's obsession with knowing whether she was actually having a fling with Johnny, so there's public interest there. Also, there are plenty of people who are in long and committed relationships that aren't married so I don't think that's necessarily a valid argument for taking it out. 72.136.95.67 (talk) 01:36, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My particular issue is they are dating now, who knows what happens 5-10 years from now. Do we want to list every relationship and breakup she has from now until then. Are we just going to list each relationship as they are together and remove and replace as time goes on? I feel if the information isn't viable to remain in the article for the lifetime of the article it shouldn't be in there at all. A marriage whether the marriage last or not will always be a notable mention. I also have BLPPRIVACY concerns with naming non-notable people attached to her, as we are currently listing him and his place of work, and someone earlier today put in her apparent sister and work location as well. WikiVirusC^(talk) 01:50, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That was me because I thought it might be relevant but I was fine with it being taken out... I mean I disagree with you because the media have gone out of their way to find out and report on her current boyfriend. If it changes in the future then go from there but she's still going to be in the public interest for the foreseeable future given Johnny still has to settle the demand for paying the ACLU's fees and the assault charges against him from the crew member of City of Lies. 72.136.95.67 (talk) 02:08, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was partly motivated by the rumours about her dating with Depp. I considered whether to mention the rumour but decided it wasn’t fit for an encyclopaedia/was trashy/insufficiently sourced to do so. I did think having her relationship in silently addresses and quashed the rumour, but then we aren’t a truthful version of a tabloid, it’s an encyclopaedia so if others don’t think her relationship is relevant I’m happy to listen.

I’m enjoying this chat, I mostly add to Australian law articles and politicians that don’t attract much attention, nice to be collaborating rather than solo MaxnaCarta (talk) 09:07, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BBC says San Francisco, Marca says Los Angeles. Is there any confirmation from Vazquez or a source closer to her on which of the two claims is correct? IceWelder [✉] 11:27, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There was some primary state birthrecord sourcing that I remove before that put her birth place in Alameda County which would be SF area . I'm not familiar with Spanish news site Marca, but I'm also not familiar with El Nuevo Herald who puts it in San Francisco. But I think we can use that as a RS.

McClatchy Company. That article also publishes her DOB which we don't have sourcing for, along with her parents name. Would prefer english version, but I think this should be good for birthplace/DOB/parents. WikiVirusC^(talk) 15:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply

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I've added in the reference for DOB, and added it next to BBC for birthplace and parents, that way we didn't have two conflicted references cited. Can still discuss if we think need additional confirmation, but figured would update since I found that. WikiVirusC^(talk) 15:53, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Someone changed it to July 24th so now I'm not sure which one it is... I've seen reports saying July 6th but maybe the person who made the edit actually knows her 72.136.95.67 (talk) 00:10, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unless they have a

WP:RS they shouldn't be changing it. July 6th is sourced and shouldn't be changed without a RS. Actually knowing someone is reason not to edit the article directly, not a reason to do so. I'm done reverting the article for the day, so someone else can fix it. WikiVirusC^(talk) 00:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply

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Yeah I'll undo it. 72.136.95.67 (talk) 00:39, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see you changed birthday back, but then you changed birthplace to somewhere unsourced? WikiVirusC^(talk) 00:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah whoops I thought Buena Park was her hometown but I think it's her current or recent address so I just put Los Angeles which I think is the most likely... 72.136.95.67 (talk) 01:22, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion was on this very point SF vs LA. BBC and Nuevo Herald cited sources say San Francisco, what is your reasoning for saying Los Angeles is most likely. WikiVirusC^(talk) 01:24, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen Los Angeles on the majority of websites whereas I think that might be the only source that says San Francisco 72.136.95.67 (talk) 01:26, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever I'll change it back lol 72.136.95.67 (talk) 01:28, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well as I was saying, this is why we are here discussining it. Marca says LA, then BBC and Nuevo were two that said SF. If you have other

WP:RS that say LA share them here. WikiVirusC^(talk) 01:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply

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This site says "Alameda County, California" Igge (talk) 17:23, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]