Talk:Carver High School
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So many Carver High Schools still needing articles
There are so many! A few include:
- Alabama: Dothan (Artis Gilmore attended [1]), Eutaw, Gadsden, Union Springs, Carrollton
- Arkansas: Augusta, Lonoke, Marked Tree, North Little Rock, Stephens, Earle, Moro (Lee County)
- Florida: Century in Escambia County (it is the black school discussed, but never by name in Escambia High School#Mascot Riots, Crestview (A Band in Every School: Portraits of Historically Black School Bands in Florida), Naples[1]
- Georgia: Carrolton (aka Carroll County Training) a source, Dawson, Douglas, Hamilton, Monroe, Richmond Hill, Monroe [2], Jakin[3][4] Isabelle Daniels attended
- Iowa George Washingto Carver Academy in Waterloo, Iowa.
Tennessee: Brownsville (done), btw Tina Turner attended- Louisiana: Kinder, Breaux Bridge, Bunkie, DeRidder,Shreveport, Sunset,
- New York: Springfield Gardens New York: George Washington Carver High School for the Sciences, a Carver that's still open today, could use an article. talk) 18:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)]
- Mississippi:
Hopewell High School, later George Washington Carver High School, near Philadelphia, MS needs investigation.added.talk) 18:30, 26 November 2018 (UTC)]- Poplarville, Mississippi talk) 18:44, 26 November 2018 (UTC)]
- Bassfield, Collins:
Charleston in Tallahatchie County (Allen Carver High School) has a lot of sources. Eventually merged with East Tallahatchie during integration[5]
- Poplarville, Mississippi
- Maryland: Baltimore, Cumberland, Lexington Park, Elkton
- Massachussets: Carver, Plymouth,
- North Carolina: ZAppomatox (aka Carver-Price), Kannapolis, Mt. Olive, Pinetops, Spindale, Winston-Salem
- Oklahoma: OKC
- South Carolina: Lake City, Spartanburg
- Tennessee: Dayton
- Texas: Aldine,[6] Amarillo, Dawson Edna, Ennis,Carver High included in EJHS history project | Ennis[7] Garland, Greenville, Karnack, Lockhart, Naples, Pampa, [8] Waco
- Midland and Sweeny have been added
- Virginia: Appomatox, Chesapeake, Culpeper, Fieldale, MArtinsville, Newport News,talk) 18:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)]
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- Careful...there may be ]
- Black kids went there, so should we do our best to keep them out? Sourcing is more difficult in many ways for these articles due to talk) 11:45, 19 November 2018 (UTC)]
- We should do our best to follow ]
- Black kids went there, so should we do our best to keep them out? Sourcing is more difficult in many ways for these articles due to
- Sorry you take offense. You're a good and very experienced editor, and in no way mean to suggest that you personally are trying to express bias against black schools. I have no idea of your attitudes and opinions, and sorry that my comment may have come across as directed at you. I do think if you look at the warning you posted, the manner that high schools are normally accepted as notable if they can be proved to exist (although that is now being discussed), and the 7 Carver High Schools and other "black school" articles I have created, that the warning is unnecessary. It is difficult to find sources on these black schools, because even in the case where these schools have been quite large and existed for many decades, the media that we presume to cover high schools have for the most part studiously ignored their existence. Nevertheless, each article I've created has had multiple reliable sources. I appreciate your looking at these articles, we need all the help we can get and I certainly don't mean to offend. talk) 19:41, 19 November 2018 (UTC)]
- No worries...obviously hard to read intent from some WP comments, especially if we don't have experience with each other's edits. Thank you for creating articles about the missing schools! I have sat out the "are high schools by default notable" debates because it's frustrating that consensus keeps not getting established (or keeps changing). Makes it hard to just write an encyclopedia if the amount of work we need to do just to get an article "started" is fluid. DMacks (talk) 05:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed. That unending discussion is annoying. In addition to the bias we regularly discuss, these schools also suffer from bias because because they were almost universally closed around 1970, and demoted to junior high/middle school classes, while the white high schools continued to exist. They were obviously not "equal" in any way, including so many things that result in being recorded in what we now call a "reliable source". Our (most of the time) assumption that high schools are notable and lower schools are not helps perpetuate the bias.talk) 17:18, 22 November 2018 (UTC)]
- Agreed. That unending discussion is annoying. In addition to the bias we regularly discuss, these schools also suffer from bias because because they were almost universally closed around 1970, and demoted to junior high/middle school classes, while the white high schools continued to exist. They were obviously not "equal" in any way, including so many things that result in being recorded in what we now call a "reliable source". Our (most of the time) assumption that high schools are notable and lower schools are not helps perpetuate the bias.
- No worries...obviously hard to read intent from some WP comments, especially if we don't have experience with each other's edits. Thank you for creating articles about the missing schools! I have sat out the "are high schools by default notable" debates because it's frustrating that consensus keeps not getting established (or keeps changing). Makes it hard to just write an encyclopedia if the amount of work we need to do just to get an article "started" is fluid. DMacks (talk) 05:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry you take offense. You're a good and very experienced editor, and in no way mean to suggest that you personally are trying to express bias against black schools. I have no idea of your attitudes and opinions, and sorry that my comment may have come across as directed at you. I do think if you look at the warning you posted, the manner that high schools are normally accepted as notable if they can be proved to exist (although that is now being discussed), and the 7 Carver High Schools and other "black school" articles I have created, that the warning is unnecessary. It is difficult to find sources on these black schools, because even in the case where these schools have been quite large and existed for many decades, the media that we presume to cover high schools have for the most part studiously ignored their existence. Nevertheless, each article I've created has had multiple reliable sources. I appreciate your looking at these articles, we need all the help we can get and I certainly don't mean to offend.
References
- ^ http://archive.naplesnews.com/news/education/graduates-of-naples-segregated-carver-high-reminisce-at-rare-reunion-ep-386530297-342368681.html/
- ^ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/300/188/1820876/
- ^ https://www.articobits.com/obituaries/grissomclark-funeral-home/mrs-isabelle-daniels-holston-obituary
- ^ https://books.google.com/books?id=B7ZfePFBLk0C&pg=PA50&lpg=PA50&dq=%22carver+high+school%22+cleveland+ohio&source=bl&ots=ra-e-9XnsU&sig=ppK1jNYm8ejMpAxOqHutkEGdSAM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiFjNTNjezfAhUySN8KHU3ECLc4FBDoATAEegQIBRAB#v=onepage&q=%22carver%20high%20school%22%20cleveland%20ohio&f=false
- ^ https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/378/1269/2125135/
- ^ https://books.google.com/books?id=4rUyDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA236&lpg=PA236&dq=%22george+washington+carver+high+school%22+texas&source=bl&ots=nx3mv5-wqg&sig=7c9bPkSnrR8-LqU6-Ys5g_ja3Ng&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjD6f2r7tvfAhWHT98KHfPwClY4MhDoATABegQIBRAB#v=onepage&q=%22george%20washington%20carver%20high%20school%22%20texas&f=false
- ^ https://www.ennisdailynews.com/news/archive-1764/
- ^ http://thefacts.com/free_share/article_c40f6257-aac7-5568-bff0-eda5513b5ec2.html
- ^ https://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-xpm-19990221-1999-02-21-9902241996-story.html
Carver High School (Century, Florida)
A large section,
talk) 21:18, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
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some more carver article possibilities
Carver High School (Columbus, Georgia) is a redirect, there are at least two notables Jarvis Jones and Jasper Sanks, likely there will be plenty of sources I started the school in Brownsville, Tennessee: Over 100 years old, at one time 1,600 students, notables including Tina Turner
"G.W. Carver Middle School (Miami, Florida)" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect
Jovanmilic97 (talk) 17:40, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
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