Talk:Christos Tsoutsouvis
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@Αντικαθεστωτικός and Cinadon36: I have locked the page for 24 hours in order to stop your edit warring. Both of you need to come to the talk page and justify your position with evidence and get consensus. Remember that edit warring is a blockable offense. -- MelanieN (talk) 00:44, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
My claim: there is no evidence that Christos Tsoutsouvis was an anarchist in the content of this article. In the contrast it is well known that he was a far left militant who participated in ELA. So i suggest to remove the category of greek anarchists unless a RS says so. I am very sorry about edit warring.Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 01:06, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
I remember that
- Also there was a punk rock song about him. I hope that there is no claim that he was a punk rock musician :) I think your arguments are pure original research and now you want to delete the article when one day before you just reverted my contribution. I fear that your aim is not the article. Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 06:21, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Please read WP:AGF. As for the AFD, have you spotted a single RS that deals with Tsoutsouvis to a substantial extent? Dedicating a chapter maybe? Not me. Cinadon36 (talk) 06:25, 26 February 2019 (UTC)]
- Sorry, but i won't follow you to this Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 06:30, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Please read
Cinadon, when you are edit warring with someone, you BOTH need to go to the talk page and explain your edits. Not, as the two of you seemed to be doing, saying in edit summaries "go to the talk page!" "no, YOU go to the talk page!" Both of you were at
- P.S. Oh, and WP:3RR still applies, so don't start up again with the edit warring. You should not make any further edits to the article on this issue until the two of you have agreed. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:45, 26 February 2019 (UTC)]
- WP:BRD. To be honest the discussion is a little bit pointless as there is no RS to address Christos Tsoutsouvis in a meaningful way. So I 'll propose the article for deletion. Hope it 's ok. Cinadon36 (talk) 16:51, 26 February 2019 (UTC)]
- When you are edit warring it is the burden of BOTH parties to undertake discussion. It doesn't matter who starts the discussion, just do it. Arguing with each other in edit summaries is only going to wind up with somebody getting blocked. (Remember: ]
- MelanieN i fear that maybe Cinadon36 is trying to find excuses to revert my work as i have informed an administrator for that reason. Now when he can't support at all his argument, now he proposed to delete this article. Please remove the category of Category:Greek anarchists from this person until a RS is provided that cites him as an anarchist. Please check also here where he also reverted me for remove this category an anarchist poet without any RS too.
- I am most thankfull for your help. (please consider that i am weak at English).Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 17:21, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- That is an ad hominem argument you keep repeating in various discussions (see permalink in this Talk Page. Please stop commenting on my "intentions". You have to ]
- I don't care about your intentions. Your acts are obvious. 1. You reverted me without explanations 2. When MelanieN questioned your acts, you were saying obvious original researh arguments that didn't repeat them twice. 3. Now you want to delete the article cause you were wrong from the beginning. Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 18:02, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- I did not revert without explanation, I explained in my edit summaries the reasons I reverted. [1], [2]. You said you dont care about my intentions, but you do speculate on them ("Now you want to delete the article cause you were wrong from the beginning"). So, having in mind the history of POV-accusations (listed here), I have to warn you that next time you comment on me or my "intentions" I am going to ANI. Focus on arguments, not on users. Cinadon36 (talk) 18:23, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Don't threat me all the time. You keep following me, you are reverting my contribution with this kind of arguments he created "Anti-state Struggle " which has anarchist's connotation, to say the least- and there has been an anarchist group by his name(!!!), and you are threating me all the time. This is harassment. Do as you will, don't threat me again. Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 18:37, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Notability
- Memoirs of the most prominent Greek terrorist D. Koufontinas of Revolutionary Organization 17 November
- Alexis Papahelas 's book folder 17N.
I think that they are RS. Especially the 2nd. Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 19:52, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Koufontinas is certainly not RS. A. Papahelas's book is not about Tsoutsouvis. Papahelas (a journalist) examines another terrorist group in Greece (
If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.Cinadon36 (talk) 20:00, 26 February 2019 (UTC)