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"In many cultures, though not all, men typically derive erotic pleasure from the visible display of cleavage." I don't know from personal experience (being a cis male) but I hear that lesbians and bi women also find cleavage attractive. One must also consider nonbinary people. IAmNitpicking (talk) 02:24, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The article doesn't imply otherwise, but the size of the male population is much, much larger than those other groups, so that will have much more social consequences and it makes sense to focus on that. We also
emphasize matters in the way they do. Crossroads-talk- 03:50, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply
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This is another feminist derived article that likes to put men down for being men, I wish this would stop. ZL3XD (talk) 10:31, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Splitting proposal
In February 2021 an editor proposed that the section
the headless photo at the top of the page is uncredited beyond that it is from flickr and without copyright. it is possible that the model might not want to have her titties on top of the Wikipedia page for cleavage.
There is also a bit of an element of antisemitisim to the framing of this, as the picture is of her holding a text in hebrew, and farther down the page, there is a picture of a Muslim woman playing chess who is allowed both her modesty, and her identity.
Would it be possible for somebody to draw something? (perhaps a diagram, indicating what, exactly, is the cleavage) I realize this is a contentious topic. 38.103.136.34 (talk) 23:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what they actual issue is here. If a model isn't identifiable without credit then it stands to reason she wouldn't object as doing so she would have to identify herself going against the reason for her objection.
I also don't know where the antisemitism comes from. I can't even make out the text let alone that it is Hebrew but maybe it just looks Hebrew because it is so garbled and out of focus. But assuming this is true there is an assumption that women want their modesty preserved when this is more a cultural prescript. In many countries that aren't Islamic you'll find a lot of Muslim women that don't follow these prescripts as well as Jewish women today blend in with the surrounding cultures and I've found a lot of them that will even be pictured naked so if they don't preserve their own modesty I can't see how the connection is made that it's antisemitic. Biofaseflame| stalk 19:22, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Done as no objections raised. Polly Tunnel (talk) 14:10, 6 April 2022 (UTC)