Talk:Crown prince

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128.233.151.42 - I think everything from:

A Crown Prince of a kingdom or an empire is usually the son of the existing ruler, or is always the heir to the throne once the existing ruler dies or abdicates.

A famous example would be

I read long ago, probably in a novel, that at one period the crown prince of Scotland had the title of Prince of Cumberland. Cumberland was transiently subject to the King of Scotland, and the title was a neat parallel to Prince of Wales, that being the land of the Cymru. J S Ayer 03:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Silly boy! It was in Shakespeare's play Macbeth. May well have been a fancy of Shakespeare's. J S Ayer 04:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article list the title of Prince of Asturias as one of those whose grant depends on the Sovereign's decision. However, this isn't actually true. The current Spanish Constitution, the one passed in 1978, establishes that the heir to the Throne (no matter whether heir apparent or presumptive) shall have the title of Prince of Asturias and those other of Montblanc, Viana, etc.

Therefore, I'm going to change the location of the mention of this title. Greetings, 85.57.70.163 (talk) 10:43, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the

I'm relatively sure that the Commonwealth recently voted to make it the eldest child, as opposed to eldest son. Not sure if this has been implemented at this time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.84.125.191 (talk) 18:29, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. The UK like most EU monarchies has abolished primogeniture (male preference in succession). I have corrected the article. It is concerning how incorrect the opening section of this article was on this matter. --86.30.163.198 (talk) 10:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest re-wording the intro sentence to say: "One can also become a crown prince/princess through marriage; for example, the wife of a crown prince is also titled crown princess."

Currently, the intro prominently says "the wife of a crown prince is also titled crown princess". I presume that would mean, these days, that "the husband of a crown princess is also titled crown prince" in countries where the heir apparent can be a woman. Perhaps someone from a country that has closer ties to royalty could advise if that's indeed the case.

Also, if it's a same-sex marriage (this may not have happened yet, at this level), I presume that it could also be that: "the husband of a crown prince is also titled crown prince". That could get confusing though: Which one is the actual heir apparent in that case? Is there a word to distinguish? It wouldn't be obvious from the wording (though neither is it between a married crown prince/princess anymore).

Hence my suggestion for re-wording this, assuming that what I'm proposing is accurate. I was hoping that someone in the know could say what's accurate (and either edit the page or let me know). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevintreg (talk • contribs) 21:38, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Until the late twentieth century, no modern monarchy adopted a system whereby females would be guaranteed to succeed to the throne (i.e. absolute primogeniture). A crown princess would therefore more likely refer to the spouse of a crown prince and would be styled crown princess not in her own right but by courtesy." What about if the reigning monarch was her mother and past childbearing years? 170.10.248.155 (talk) 19:10, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

current list includes following titles with some issues, Prince(ss) of Asturias - Title is given to heir of the monarch whether apparent or presumptive
Duke of Cornwall and Duke of Rothesay - titles are not given to all heir apparents, it is limited to eldest living son of the monarch who also heir apparent. If grandson is heir apparent, titles merged with crown and he is only created Prince of Wales
Chamika1990 (talk) 15:23, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]