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This article was nominated for deletion on 21 March 2014 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

Does Disney Channel Zimbabwe really exist? I ask this because the link given in the article which is supposed to go to "Disney Channel Zimbabwe" doesn't exist, and also because there is very little mention of a Disney Channel Zimbabwe elsewhere. 82.35.130.144 (talk) 13:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Why not just delete this article. This is not a proper name. The general info should be in Disney Channel. The particular info should be in the article about the "national" channel. The particular articles can be found easily viathe Category system. --Ettrig (talk) 15:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Deletion discussion 21 March 2014

(Keep) If any one bother to look, the article had its primary subject matter's, Disney Channels Worldwide, history sections removed. Those section were fully sourced thus showing its notability and not a hoax. Those sections have been restored. It is a stand alone subject by itself. Plus, it is a good catch all article, previously being Disney Channel (international), for all the other version of the Disney Channel. Spshu (talk) 17:16, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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• Against. I am not even sure why John123521 suggest a split. Dlife's sourcing in this article is two primary source (not recommended sourcing) and one reliable source but not mainstream media (USA Today, NY Times, etc.) thus not meeting WP:Notability requirements. I did look at the Japanese WP article and it is highly self source. Just best to continue to incubate Dlife here until we get sources that indicate it is notable. Spshu (talk) 16:25, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a Disney Channel, Disney XD and Disney Junior in India. These same channels are also telecast in other South Asian countries like Pakistan, Nepal, Sri Lanka. I found a similar source for Disney in Sri Lanka and it is mainly talking about their consumer products business of Disney India with the basic mention of Disney channels available in Sri Lanka.^[1] And they are the Indian versions. They were available years before this article was published. There are no Sri Lankan versions of Disney Channels. Then why not make separate entries for Pakistan, Nepal according to your logic?

And with Southeast Asia, ALL THE COUNTRIES share the same feed of Disney Channel Asia. Maybe Singapore and Philippines can be separate as Singapore is Disney Channel Asia but with modified schedule of more live action shows in the afternoon. PH used to do that but now it is exactly like the main Southeast Asian feed. User 261115 (talk) 17:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I do know. I did the research on the the market versions and revamp the whole Disney Channels Worldwide article. No, don't explain come up with sources. I did come across the Sri Lanka source, but that may only justify list Sri Lanka as a served country for the India Channel and I dropped the source hoping to have a clarifying source in whether or not it was it the India channel or is it a Sri Lanka channel run by Disney India. I have not turn up any channel operating in Pakistan or Nepal. You are not using my logic as I would not make up channels for them or assume what other market's channel serves them with out a source. This is the Wikipedia -- reliable sourcing is basically required.

Many of the countries do share Disney Channel Asia but it seem to be an international channel as it is in Mandarin, and English language feeds and running parallel in some of the countries already having a channel (Malaysia, Taiwan). The Asia version was launched in 2000,^[2] while Taiwan and Malaysia has had their own since March 1995 and October 1995 respectively.^[3] Spshu (talk) 21:42, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As Spshu messaged me in my talk page, I'll give my piece on here.

Disney Channel Southeast Asia (as it's the most appropiate name to use) covers most of the Southeast Asian countries using feeds. Countries excluded are India, Japan and Korea, since they have their own localised channels. There are no sources about Disney launching a specific local version for each Asian country as previously listed in the article, but country launchings of Disney same feeds. It's the same situation as managed in Latin America with multiple networks: they tend to divide the channel into feeds (with Brazil always tending to be more autonomous than the rest of the feeds but always included on the operational LA area as a feed, regardless of how independent it is).

Disney Channel SEA (by short) is an international feed as you said, but let's not mix Disney's three channel country launches. As for Disney Channel, it was first launched in Taiwan in 1995 in both Mandarin and English, and expanded to other countries as Malaysia and Indonesia, as you said. When doing it, they divided the feed from Taiwan to air solely in English along with other language audio tracks in the region; they did this for some specific areas, for which the feeds provide different audio tracks i.e. the Malaysian feed available to broadcast in English, Malaysian, Tamil and Mandarin, while the Thai feed only having English and Thai as available options. To avoid confusion, it is important to note the group of launching dates for this channel in the region, which is no different from the same feed organisation in Europe.

Disney XD SEA's situation is a little different. It was first launched in Malaysia as a localised feed, but then expanded to Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand and the Philippines; as it happened in the Disney Channel case with Taiwan, Malaysia's channel turned into an autonomous feed with similar programming and publicity from the now "Main" feed airing in other SEA countries. But even then, Disney XD's situation shares the same pattern with the geographical distribution of Disney Channel. Same applies to Disney Junior

In the article's history, you said that those countries being a part of the Disney SEA group doesn't negate the individual channels. It does, in fact. None of the sources states the launching of the Disney Channel/XD in those countries as independent networks; instead, of feeds. --Bankster (talk) 19:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Disney India recently announced an official launch of their 4 Disney branded channels (Disney Channel, Disney XD, Disney Junior and Disney International HD) in the Maldives.^[4] They're the Indian feeds as you can tell from the article so Maldives should be listed in the "Other" box of the Indian market here and also in Disney XD channel list article. Same goes for Sri Lanka. User 261115 (talk) 14:01, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The source doesn't say that the India channels are being launch there, you are making that assumption give the presents of Disney International since it was first launched in India. Spshu (talk) 14:51, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

... so you literally expect the source to say “Disney Channel India” and “Disney XD India”? South Asian countries normally take the Indian feeds of foreign channels, they don’t have their own feeds. And in addition to that a person from DISNEY INDIA commented on the launch in the country. User 261115 (talk) 15:15, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That would be nice, but no. You still need some indication that these are feeds of the India channels. Some thing like: "Dhiraagu TV has brought feeds of the four India Disney channels to Maldives." or "Maldives feeds of all the Disney India channels are being carried now by Dhiraagu TV." "The four Disney Indian channels are now available via Dhiraagu TV." "These channels are extension of the India channels." "Disney India has now extended its channels to the Maldives via Dhiraagu TV." "The India channels will have (local language) on its audio 2 feed." As it is possible Dhiraagu TV is putting together its own version. Spshu (talk) 21:50, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you are the only person in the entire world who thinks this way. User 261115 (talk) 02:50, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spshu, you must really be kidding me. These channels, especially Disney International HD, were launched solely in India and based in Mumbai. There is no mention about the launch of "Maldives"-based feeds in the article, so it's logical to assume they're distributing the Indian networks in the country. There is no way around, as you are twisting it. --Bankster (talk) 06:01, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Really, the Disney Channel, Disney XD and Disney Jr. are only in India? Are you kidding me?!?!?! Since they don't say so then it is so? So, the IPTV provider wanted to have a channel line up similar to the India line up. It does say in the article that it is a Maldives channels launch. Where in the article does it say, indicate or imply that these are the India Channels? The point is that it doesn't. I have even scanned the Disney India website there is nothing about the Maldives being the India channels. Spshu (talk) 14:27, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have told you again and again it’s a common thing for TV providers in South Asia to take some Indian channels and some from Southeast Asia. Don’t believe me? Go to the PEO TV Sri Lanka website and see the Disney schedules. Then compare it to the schedule found on an Indian site. It’s the exact same schedule because they literally using the same Indian feed. The Maldives IPTV provider lists Nick HD+ and it’s an India only channel. Some channels like Sony channel are from SEA. You, Spshu don’t understand a single thing about television in Indian subcontinent and despite numerous explanations you fail to listen. Lastly, Indian TV broadcast companies normally don’t mention this stuff on their websites. User 261115 (talk) 14:53, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't fail to understand. You don't understand is that is original research (WP:ORIGINAL) and is not allowed on WP. I am not allowed to go to my local municipal's article and type up what ever I want on the article, even though I know it to be true, with out a reliable source that actually states the facts I want to add. If the India companies don't mention it then I cannot confirm what you believe about the Maldive channel being a feed of the India channel instead of its own. Spshu (talk) 14:59, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah Spshu, I'm not kidding!1!1!1 You should've already got it, haven't you?!?!?!?

So, the IPTV provider wanted to have a channel line up similar to the India line up.

Still assuming with no reference truly supporting your claims. If the IPTV provider has the three channels with the exact programming schedule and content from the main feed in India, don't you think it is obvious these are the same feeds from India? It makes sense, doesn't it? Making it a "Maldives launch" doesn't mean "launching Maldives-exclusive feeds", as you want to twist it. User 261115 is right: given the geographical location of India's surrounding countries (like Pakistan, Bangladesh or Sri Lanka), it's normal for Indian-based channels to expand themselves to those nations. In some cases, they launch dedicated feeds, given the population size related to television audience (i.e. launching a Pakistan-solely feed). However, Maldives is out of this league, comparing its population size with other countries in the South Asian region.

His point is not related to original research, as you want to put it that way. Facts related to Indian-based multinational channels (such as Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon) proves this situation also. Stop giving excuses with policies that are not even backing you; you're the one assuming Maldivian feeds are a thing when we're proving otherwise. It's a shame that you are not aware of your own bias on original research. --Bankster (talk) 08:18, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The international channels have been split off to

I am thinking that this article should be move to ABC Cable Networks Group, until its new dba/trade name is revealed, and a new Disney Channels Worldwide article be started with the two lists (Disney Channels & Disney channel types) and other international sections and referring back to ABC Cable Networks Group article for background/prior history. Spshu (talk) 19:00, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The US channels are still operating as Disney Channels Worldwide. So, another option is Disney Channels Worldwide with disabig (US) for the US channels, since the nondisambig. would be more appropriate for the international unit. With the small problem that US was the core of DCWW for along time. Spshu (talk) 15:51, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am really confused about this ,where is Disney channel South Africa Nombuso Ncube (talk) 14:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

or is there no such thing Nombuso Ncube (talk) 14:27, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In South Africa. LOL. It was just listed in the Channel types per markets but was not listed in the List of Disney Channel (main/regular) table. Spshu (talk) 22:04, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]