Talk:Dubrovnik subdialect

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From: Josip Lisac: Hrvatski dijalekti i govori štokavskog narječja i hrvatski govori torlačkog narječja, Hrvatska dijalektologija 1, Goldenmarketing - Tehnička knjiga, Zagreb, 2003., p. 107:

U starini je dubrovački dijalekt bio samostalan zapadnoštokavski dijalekt, dio zapadne štokavštine, a nakon seoba i novoštokavizacije približio se autohtonim govorima novoštokavskoga (i)jekavskog dijalekta istočnoštokavskoga podrijetla, koji je dijalekt postao jednim od štokavskih dijalekata, idiomom što je izgubio dio svojih istočnih značajki.

p. 110:

U cjelini, danas je nekadanji dubrovački dijalekt jedan od poddijalekata današnjega istočnohercegovačko-krajiškog dijalekta.

This article is misleading in many respects. Today's speech of Dubrovnikans is pure Neoštokvian (Eastern-Herzgovinian). --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 11:54, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article isn't misleading at all.
Please, read the article I gave as source:
http://www.matica.hr/MH_Periodika/vijenac/1999/148/html/hrvatski/06.htm
Author: Josip Lisac. Very same author.
Lisac, that same author, said that todays Dubrovnikan subdialect is considered as part of East Herzegovina subdialect. But he also accentuated the existing differences and the history. What's "misleading"?
Please, don't criticize just to criticize.
BTW, how come that you appeared exactly here? I've just created this article. And you're already here? You cannot have excuse "it was on my watchlist".
Are you wikihounding me (read

This article makes it sound as if it's describing present-day situation, with is present-tense constructs. There is no "Dubrovnk subdialect" of Štokavian today. It is hypothesized that one used to exist, but it's gone long time ago.

The article you're referring to deals for the mot part with pre-Štokavian influences on the contemporary speech: Romance (Dalmatian), Italian and neighboring Čakavian and Ikavian Štokavian. I don't see how it's relevant here.

No I'm not wikihounding you. You have a history of disturbing and problematic edits in linguistic areas, and as such represent a terrific menace to this project, which is why I probably should wikihound you. I found this article via this edit of yours on the article that I do have on my watchlist. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 02:32, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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