Talk:Eileen Sharp

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A fact from Eileen Sharp appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 December 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that only a year after joining the D'Oyly Carte Opera Company at age 21, Eileen Sharp (pictured) was promoted to be the company's principal mezzo-soprano? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2015/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eileen Sharp.

Ssilvers (talk · contribs) removed the infobox from the article saying, "Please see Talk page." There's nothing on the talk page explaining why an infobox is inappropriate, so here I am asking. — fourthords | =Λ= | 20:41, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:DISINFOBOX. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:03, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply

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I have to agree with Ssilvers here. The important summary of her life is contained in the lead; the extra information in the IB was unnecessary when getting an overall picture of the lady herself. – SchroCat (talk) 21:28, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Eileen Sharp
A postcard of 1922
Born	Eileen Nora Sharp (1900-09-20)20 September 1900 Brighton, UK
Died	25 March 1958(1958-03-25) (aged 57) Wimbledon, UK
Occupations	Singer Actress

(edit conflict) I suggest a simple version of the last infobox in the article here, to discuss the parameters. I don't see how her data of life and death (which are nowhere in the article together) be (1) "unimportant factoids", - I consider it minimal service of a biographic article to supply them at a glance. Even if the infobox had no other content, it would be useful for readers looking for that kind of information. They don't need (1) nuance. This infobox (2) repeats some facts from the body of the article, so does the lead. The infobox (3) takes space that's mostly white, and even if not: see "minimal service". We are human and make errors, but (4) no more frequently in the infobox than elsewhere. I don't see fancruft in this infobox. The (5) code of the infobox is nicely paired in parameters and values, much easier to decipher than long references within the the text. (6) "Discourage from reading" could be said about any image. (7) The coding of infoboxes can be left to users who like to do it,

like me ;) - See also Wikipedia:Disinfoboxes: a refutation. - I saw the arguments last on Talk:Jean Sibelius, please see there for more aspects. Happy 150th birthday to a great composer! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply

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An info-box would add nothing of value, and would be pointless clutter here. There is a place for I-Bs - where life stats can be usefully summarised (sportspersons, dignified clergy, politicians et al) but here it would be an amateurish waste of space, as if taking our readers by the hand and explaining as if to a small child what we have already just told them. I think it is patronising and rather insulting to treat our readers thus. Tim riley talk 23:16, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• As I have said previously, the infobox adds nothing that is not already included in the lead, and we have a policy on the G&S Project not to use them. Jack1956 (talk) 23:23, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]