Talk:Freeview (UK)

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BBC One and BBC Two both say "includes regional variations" I believe this to be confusing, making it sound like you can get all the regions.

pjb007 21:17, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is the case that all regional variations are available on some satellite services but this is certainly not the case on Freeview. I agree that the comment "includes regional variations" is misleading, but also believe that it is worth noting that there are regional variations on BBC One and BBC Two. Where I live, BBC One is almost always referred to as BBC One Scotland and is as distinct from BBC One as Scottish TV is from ITV1. It is difficult to highlight such differences in what is essentially supposed to be merely a list of channels. Do you have any suggestions as to a remedy for the ambiguity you identify? Perhaps it should also be asked if this is the appropriate article for highlighting the existence of regional variations on specific channels. IP 19:03, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Solution: take the word "includes" out (done). Lee Stanley 15:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to tune my freeview box to receive S4C if I don't live in Wales? I know you can with Sky, and my sister's freeview box, but mine doesn't show the variations. Is there a way to make it tune in? 57.66.51.165 15:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. --Kiand 17:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

:-( Thanks

I have now added YOOPLAY GAMES to this category; the space has been leased to

Today my Freeview box had just found a new channel called tvtv DIGITAL on channel 304. Has anyone else found this channel or knows anything about it. As I wonder what it is, and it also says it's a text channel. Thanks.

My box has picked it up. I know nothing about the channel, but I would guess that it has something to do with the following link [1]. RobWill80 13:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added a sentence to point out that currently less than three-quarters of the population can actually receive it, and that's according to Freeview's own rather optimistic forecast. (Reception where I live is good according to their website. In fact it's virtually unwatchable unless I fork out for a very big aerial.)--Shantavira 13:55, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looking on Digital Spy and found this.

Freeview's website says it will be changing it's looks "in the next few days" --h2g2bob 00:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A new logo has appeared, and User:UTV2 had uploaded it with the incorrect tags and it now stands for deletion. I have added the correct tags (I think), and it seems to be from the Freeview website, see here Marbles333 11:06, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If it has got the correct tags and is on the Freeview website then it is okay to add it to the article.

London UK (talk) 11:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply

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Could the date of channels being added be included (as well as the existing "dates of departures")? Jackiespeel 19:06, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you, I think that this would be a useful addition. Chris as I am Chris 18:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should BBC TWO's caption be changed so that it states it has National variations on Freeview, as opposed to reigional on analogue? Chris as I am Chris 18:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article does a poor job of distinguishing the Freeview company from the Freeview service (which includes channels not supplied by Freeview) and the DVB-T platform itself. It needs a lot work in this regard. --88.109.230.172 19:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify things: There is no "copied Freeview model" in Germany. Almost all German TV stations have always broadcasted free-to-air on their own, this includes the public channels as well as, since around 1985, the commercial ones. For terrestrial transmission, the station rents broadcasting services from a transmitter operator and that's it. This has been the case for analogue broadcasting and is the case for digital broadcasting.

Specifically, there's no joint company that markets DVB-T services and owns a broadcasting license. A number of more or less state-owned PR companies have been setup to help get things started on the viewer's side, but they don't broadcast. --87.193.10.216 10:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not wasting any more time on this article. Firstly it is plain OBVIOUS that the Freeview brand is used for non-consortium channels, such as QVC, Sit-up, Ideal World, ABC1 and so on, which USE THE FREEVIEW BRAND. There is NO citation for this, it is plain common sense. If you wish to ruin a good article with tags - go ahead. I removed the information about the Genericised Trademark as that is not proved, but the rest is just plain obvious - there is NO reference available which can say so, we know it is and its just plain common sense. There is no dispute, simply a misunderstanding. /Marbles 20:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've added some references. ••Briantist•• talk 20:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It might be worth including the current broadcast resolution of Freeview. I know it's MPEG2 over DVB-T but I feel it could be any one of: 480i, 480p, 576i or 576p (I think old low-resolution content is upscaled before transmission but I may be wrong). It might also vary by channel. If anyone has this info, it would seem prudent to include it. 87.194.8.35 21:11, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To my (limited) knowledge, there are three resolutions used for Freeview channels, 720x576, 704x576 and 544x576 (source). I can't tell you if they are progressive or interlaced though (I suspect the latter). --tgheretford (talk) 21:27, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Does anybody agree with me that the Sky Channels section belongs in Digital terrestrial television in the United Kingdom rather than here; as this article is about the Freeview consortium, rather than the channels available via Digital Terrestrial Television? Guinness 17:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sky is a founding member of the Freeview consortium. A member potentially pulling its channels off the platform is personally a big move. Jt spratt 17:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone needs to do something about that ugly pie chart near the top. It looks too pixelated. Wiki.user 19:30, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a need for the channel list to be on the Freeview page. The page contains a link to Digital terrestrial television in the United Kingdom which lists all the channels along with further information about each channel.

pjb007 11:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clear up that confusing inclusion of "Cary Wakefield" on the article infobox; I have tracked down the mysterious being and they happen to be the Freeview General Manager.

http://www.freeview.co.uk/press/pr060207

/Marbles 12:55, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Er, thanks, though you needn't have gone to the effort since the infobox already said 'Cary Wakefield (General Manager)'! - Green Tentacle 14:25, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ha. Okay, sorry I noticed Briantist questioned who the person was the other day and removed it, not sure if it was re-instated though. /Marbles 17:55, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No need to apologise. I restored the information straight away[2]. To be honest, I have no idea why Brianist removed it in the first place. - Green Tentacle 03:17, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone keeps posting

'*UKTV G2 In August 2007, sources indicated that the UKTV network were considering bringing the channel onto the Digital terrestrial freeview network to replace UKTV Bright Ideas, which currently only averages 0.1% of the audience share. It is still unknown whether this will happen or what timescale it'll occur on.

This is speculation and breaks

Can someone confirm through some web resource that Thomas Cook channel does not exist any more on Freeview? The reason I have kept adding it is because both official pages (Freeview and Thomas Cook) claim it still exists. ZanderSchubert 08:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I read somewhere recently that Sky News might be taken off Freeview. I was wondering whether this was still the case as I've just switched on my set and found UKtv History on Channel 82 where Sky News should be, showing an old episode of Sharpe. Can anyone advise? Thanks 81.152.222.14 11:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't tell you whether Sky News is being taken off Freeview, but as regards the problem you've been having, I suspect you'll find there's some kind of technical glitch somewhere. I've just had the same thing happen to me, but it came back again after about half an hour. Cheers

Paul20070 11:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply

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Thanks for getting back to me. I'm happy to report that it's back on my set too. Thanks for the advice. 81.152.222.14 11:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for bumping an old thread, but this may have referred to Sky's plans for its own range of DTT boxes, codenamed "Picnic" [4]. This proposal involves Sky launching its own range of DTT boxes, which would require a subscription for the Sky services, leading to their withdrawal from the Freeview platform. The Picnic proposal was announced in October last year but things have gone quiet since then. Perhaps the article could mention this. --♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is already an article on

verifiability policy. --tgheretford (talk) 20:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply

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I added Sky Picnic to the See also section, as it is an interesting potential development for Freeview. Given the current state of play, Picnic may never get off the ground, but it is worth a link from the Freeview article itself. There was no intention of violating

WP:FORUM here. --♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 21:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply

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Sky announced on 1st August that Sky Sports News will be withdrawn from Freeview from 23rd August 2010. (not sky News). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davblc7 (talk • contribs) 14:40, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is the channel seriously being renamed Dave for its Freeview launch. It seems an odd thing to do. What's the logic behind it?

Well, I checked out this news article and it seems UKTV G2 is being renamed Dave. I also found the answer to my question, so please accept my apologies for reverting what I thought was a piece of vandalism. I still think it's a strange thing to do though. Cheers

Paul20070 17:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply

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How correct can it be if it has it on the uktv.co.uk website. :D.

AxG ^{@ ►talk} 18:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply

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I accept it is true, but having a man's name seemingly stuck in an article looks very odd, without going through the history page. That's why I have added a warning to the text.

Bevo74 20:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply

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Why do we not have a section listing new channels that will be added to Freeview? All we have is current channels and former channels. Can we add this section? 86.158.126.106 (talk) 14:02, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is probably best not to. The Freeview rumour mill is full of speculation and nonsense. If we have this section then there will not be much reliable content in it and it will become a magnet for speculation. --DanielRigal (talk) 14:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, there was a section with this removed a few days ago, citing that

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. I feel inclined to agree, because a lot of references are for speculation which should not be included in Wikipedia. Plus the information in this article (ie. The Hits → 4Music) could be replicated within the Virgin Media/Sky Digital (UK & Ireland) EPG articles. That sections is probably left out as there are better sources of this information elsewhere (ie. news search engines, media news websites, media forums). --tgheretford (talk) 15:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply

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I bet all the other FTA and FTV channels like pop will go on freeview after the digital switchover but they may go on freeview before too. --86.149.155.187 (talk) 16:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm here to open a discussion as regards the amount of information we should display about channels which do not broadcast for their full hours. I have recently been reverting edits concerning UKTV History, where users have added the times at which it broadcasts, because it is the only channel where this information is displayed. I believe we should have a standard format for this, and either add the infotion to all relevant channels or leave it out (I'm happy to go along with whichever method other editors feel si appropriate). What I don't think we should do, however, is have a mizture of the two. Does anyone have any views on this? Cheers

I ugess I should add that I personally think the information would be useful, but I leave it to others to decide.

Paul20070 (talk) 20:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply

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• UKTV History
  - 0600 - 1800
• Virgin 1
  - 1800 - 0600
• Smile TV - 0300 - 0700
• Gems TV - 0945 - 1245
• Five US
• The Community Channel
  - 0600 - 0900
• Teachers TV - 1600 - 1700

Not sure about the times of bid-tv and QVC in Wales. I also notice that not all of the articles on these channels actually displays the time (Smile TV for example). I might add that in as well.

Extend their hours on freeview. It is not fair on freeview viewers. This is digital discrimination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.73.78 (talk) 13:02, 16 February 2008

Why has a load of technical information been added to the channel list? Information like the parent company and aspect ratio should surely be in the digital terrestrial television in the United Kingdom article, which is more technically-minded and already contains technical information like the multiplex. - Green Tentacle (talk) 00:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted an unreferenced edit which claimed Five Life is to be rebranded as Fiver in April. Not sure whether or not this was correct. Can anybody shed any light on the matter?

Just found something about it in the

Paul20070 (talk) 23:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply

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Well there's a brand new logo, so I gusss it has to be true. I think we should find a reference for it though otherwise there's a danger of people stumbling into a trap. My excuse is that my system's going a bit slow this evening and didn't bring up the image when I checked out the article. I think it's time to log off for the night.

Paul20070 (talk) 23:26, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply

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Please can you we have a section on the merits of each. Lots of people will be trying to work out which to buy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newschapmj1 (talk • contribs) 15:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We are trying to inform the reader what 'Freeview' is not Freesat and this is not the place for the pros and cons of the systems. That info can be found elsewhere on the web. -- 

[[ axg ⁞⁞ talk ]] 15:45, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply

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"On 23 June 2009, Setanta Sports went into administration following financial difficulties at 2.30pm, with its Setanta Sports 1 channel closed down at 6pm on the same day. The American sports network ESPN bought the rights to the Premier League games owned by Setanta, and plans to launch a new channel to screen them."

should not be in an article of which the subject is "an operator of