Talk:Gleichwie der Regen und Schnee vom Himmel fällt, BWV 18

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 10:09, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to take on this. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 10:09, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

• Can we say something like (German for "Just as the rain and snow fall from heaven") in the lead, and also in similar cases in the main article?

compare BWV 65 --GA

Fine, if it is not the norm, no need. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 07:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Would be good to add "composer" or perhaps "German composer" before Bach.

compare BWV 65 --GA

Fine, if it is not the norm, no need. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 07:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Would be good to add a word on who Neumeister was.

will think, that's what links are for, no? --GA

I looked harder. In the lead, it seems like undue weight, - we don't say who Bach was, why Neumeister? In the body, there's quite a bit already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You have a point. Links are fine, but in many articles they are introduced. There is no rule for this really, so don't worry about this unless it comes up as a FAC quibble :) Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 07:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Link Weimar period.

Good idea, will think about that also. --GA

tried now --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• relatively early in Bach's chronology of cantata compositions Would be good to give an idea of how many Bach composed.

his bio says that in the lead, - why would we repeat it in every cantata? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just a suggestion, and I am not against the norms in these articles. I was interested because you deal with numbers in this line. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 07:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

History and words

• What does "capelle" mean?

linked to Court chapel now ---GA

• Any link for Gotha?

yes ;) ---GA

• It is one of few text "texts"

yes ---GA

• second ovement "movement"

yes ---GA

Scoring and structure

• Use any proper source, but do have inline citations at the end of paragraphs. I don't want such a nice article to be littered with "cn" tags.

For the keys, look at Sources, early version and Leipzig version, - and tell me how I quote that inline without loosing the predictable spot for the links ---GA

• I think you didn't wish to link Leipzig? If it has to be, then better link it in the earlier section, at its first mention.

link removed ---GA

• Just curious, where do you introduce people and where do you not? For example, Alfred Dürr is introduced even though his name is linked, while Christoph Wolff is not. (Sorry, I am spoiled by FAC nitpicking ;) )

explained Wolff ---Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Music

• Link accompagnato

both secco and accompagnato are sections of recitative, hesitating, - would have to link both, sea of blue?

Better not. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 03:52, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Source for "4"?

yes ---GA

Selected recordings

• You may wish to give an idea of who Oron is.

rather not, see other cantatas ---GA

That should be it. Another masterpiece, as always! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 08:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for good points, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:31, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why did this have to wait for ages for a review? It won't have to anymore, this is promoted. Cheers! Sainsf (talk · contribs) 03:52, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]