Talk:Glenn Lee Benner II

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Statistics:
  • 6th murderer executed in U.S. in 2006
  • 10th murderer executed in U.S. since 1976
  • 1st murderer executed in Ohio in 2006
  • 20th murderer executed in Ohio since 1976
This subject was a criminal, referred to as "A serial rapist and murderer", that was executed. He brutally murdered Trina Bowser (age 21) and Cynthia Sedgwick (age 26). It wasn't just two murders. The subject committed more than one rape and at least one victim was sodomized. The subject received three prizes for his crimes, a "final meal", a death sentence, and a five sentence stubby article on Wikipedia, spread out apparently in some attempt to make it look better. There is also
mention
in other articles.
The
prod
with the editor stating: "Given that this has been live for 9 years with multiple editors, I'm declining that as a number of editors have implicitly considered him notable. Feel free to AFD if you feel it appropriate.".
A problem is that existence on Wikipedia can be simply because of
Identifying reliable sources. The reasons for inclusion might be an exception because "guidelines are considered "...a generally accepted standard that editors should attempt to follow, though it is best treated with common sense
when applying a "best judgement", and occasional exceptions may apply.".
Guidelines, are "...sets of best practices (using "best judgments") of existing policies.", supported by consensus. "Consensus is ascertained by the quality of the arguments given on the various sides of an issue, as viewed through the lens of Wikipedia policy." and not simply a "head count". The level of consensus can be local or project-wide but can not over-ride broad community consensus.
Iridescent 11:09, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply
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--LOL don't get hauled off or desysopped. You did state: "Feel free to AFD if you feel it appropriate.". I was not aware that any admin (sysop etc.) had to "take action" on a prod. From what I understand if a prod is simply not contested by "any" editor it can be deleted after 7 days. What seems apparent to me is that a prod seems to be pretty much worthless. Some editor can submit a well reasoned prod on a totally junk article, and the creator (or anyone) can just contest it. Seems like it is only useful if the creator is not around, has some miraculous change of heart, or maybe didn't check "watch this page". I guess I will have to add that admins or sysops being forced to contest (or accept) a prod as another reason. Learn something every day.
I consider myself an inclusionist, and certainly not just some victims rights editor, so if an article is "worthy" of space then it should be on Wikipedia. There does seem to be some consensus in the guidelines that unless there is an exception of notability we should cover the
five pillars. Thanks for your comments. Otr500 (talk) 13:45, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply
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