Talk:Hamburg massacre

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I have restored the

Harvard reference style
, which is one of the three methods approved by Wikipedia. A previous editor, in an attempt to convert to footnotes, introduced inline {cite book} code that made the article difficult to edit.

I suspect there is a way to write footnotes so that article text remains fairly clean. In the meantime the article is referenced and is easy to both read and edit, and in my opinion should stay the way it is. To quote: "You should follow the style already established in an article, if it has one; where there is disagreement, the style or system used by the first editor to use one should be respected." Our time is better spent on insanely great content. Hughespj (talk) 12:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The death of Simon Coker was not in Hamburg, and probably not by Tillman

Regarding "The Sweetwater Sabre Company, led by Ben Tillman, was chosen to execute black state legislator Simon Coker of Barnwell. After being told of his impending execution, Coker asked the unit to give instructions to his wife regarding cotton-ginning and that month's rent. He was then executed mid-prayer.": First off, While Wikipedia's Benjamin Tillman article has a mention of the Ellenton riots, also (I think accurately) referencing the Coker killing as happening there, Tillman himself, in his 1909 speech to a Red Shirts reunion, gives his own version which actually sounds even more detailed, in which Captain Nat Butler, during the Ellenton Riots, borrows two men from Tillman's unit to do the job. Anyone interested in fixing this (I guess by merely deleting the reference in this article) might want to double-check the text of Tillman's 1909 speech, "The Struggles of 1876: How South Carolina was delivered from Carpet-Bag and Negro Rule", Page 63. 76.236.220.28 (talk) 19:36, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Was this a "riot," as claimed in the lead?

This wasn't a spontaneous outbreak of violence by a crowd. It was planned and organized. They even had their red shirts as uniforms. It was a terrorist act. Referring to it as a riot is just an attempt to whitewash what actually occured.

Atlanta had a similar incident in the early 20th century, where white Atlantans killed a number of black Atlantans in the streets. It used to be referred to as the "Atlanta Race Riots," but that term is not often used now, because it implies that there were "rioters" on both sides, when in fact it was just a one-sided massacre.

Calling the Hamburg massacre a "riot" is like referring to the massacre of women and children at Wounded Knee as a "riot."

Can we please do away with this? Ormewood (talk) 17:37, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]