Talk:History of broadcasting in Australia

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I started this article by copying the Australian section from History of broadcasting. It is now about twice as long, since I've copied some new material from ABC and other articles. I've added new material, and a new bibliography. I also drop some minor details that were not especially encyclopedic. The old version was, in my opinion, much too detailed for a history of broadcasting article that had to cover the entire world. Rjensen (talk) 09:53, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of History of broadcasting in Australia's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

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• From History of Australia: "Primeministers.naa.gov.au". Primeministers.naa.gov.au. Retrieved 14 July 2011.
• From History of Australia (1851–1900): Alan McCulloch, Golden Age of Australian Painting: Impressionism and the Heidelberg School
• From History of broadcasting: Mimi Colligan, Golden Days of Radio, Australia Post, 1991
• From
  History of Australia since 1945: "In office - Robert Hawke - Australia's PMs - Australia's Prime Ministers"
  . Primeministers.naa.gov.au. Retrieved 2011-11-09.
• From
  History of Australia (1901–45)
  : Brian Carroll; From Barton to Fraser; Cassell Australia; 1978

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 13:14, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Albert Isaacs: You have undone all five of the changes I made, with the edit summary "Reversion to Australian English". Does that apply to all five changes, or only some them? I have been making changes similar to "by 1930s → by the 1930s", "in late 1930s → in the late 1930s" and "on 1975 → in 1975" in very many articles, so if I've been doing this wrong I need to know; and the other two changes "Furthermore → Furthermore," and "47 year → 47-year" are part of the standard AWB rule set at Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos, so, again, if these are wrong then all AWB users need to know. But before discussing this with the project's grammar experts at Wikipedia talk:Typo Team or Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos it would be really helpful to know which are the changes you have objected to. Thanks! -- John of Reading (talk) 06:11, 4 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This article is getting to be rather large (and usefully so), but also unwieldy. I see an advantage in making the long, and (potentially much longer; I've just added six), list of radio actors, presenters, journalists etc. into a separate article. The pioneers and administrators would stay. Doug butler (talk) 07:09, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am pleading guilty (in part) to bringing this situation about. I agree with the need to split (I will be adding dozens of pioneers and researchers to the lists in coming weeks), but would like to go a step further again. We need to distinguish between (1) the history of the medium and (2) the current implementation, both content and carriage. I like the way the current implementation for TV in Television broadcasting in Australia has been handled, and we could do worse than set up something similar for radio Radio broadcasting in Australia, just a cut and paste from the relevant material in History of broadcasting in Australia would be a great start. At present History of broadcasting in Australia is essentially limited to Radio broadcasting. Theoretically we could start adding sections on comparable TV developments, but they would be interlaced with radio and become incredibly complex (the more so once Media Ownership and Control developments are added). Far better, I believe to have someone take on board a new article History of TV broadcasting in Australia, but my knowledge here is quite limited.Samuel.dellit (talk) 08:12, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As a precursor to splitting this article, I have created a separate article for the several long lists of personalities at the end of this article: List of people in communications and media in Australia. Looks good to me, but all comments welcome.--Samuel.dellit (talk) 22:59, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have created Radio broadcasting in Australia from the programming related content in this article. Intended to mirror Television broadcasting in Australia. Looks good to me, but all comments welcome. Will now delete that content from this article.--Samuel.dellit (talk) 01:02, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In case there be concern that this article gives too much detail on early wireless experimenters & amateur radio, I note my present intention to only include every experimenter up to 1910. Thereafter only prominent persons will be included. Amateur radio broadcasting rights ceased in 1939 and were never reinstated, so most coverage should cease at that point. At conclusion there may be benefit in considering whether this material be spun off into a separate article on "History of Wireless Experimenters & Amateur Radio in Australia." But for the moment it is a handy index to further research into early wireless experimenters and amateur radio which has not previously been assembled at one location.--Samuel.dellit (talk) 04:24, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In case there be concern that this article gives too much detail on early coastal wireless, I note my present intention to only fully detail the history of the coastal stations up to 1920. Before 1920, coastal wireless is a clear predecessor to broadcasting. Post 1920, coastal wireless takes its own important but largely separate path. At conclusion there may be benefit in considering whether this material be spun off into a separate article on "History of Coastal Radio in Australia." But for the moment it is a handy index to further research into early coastal radio.--Samuel.dellit (talk) 06:10, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

G'day Wikipedians. Just a brief note to inform that I have switched my primary focus to development of the above Wikibook. While I acknowledge that Wikipedia as a dictionary must be concise and informative, I most enjoy the lavish detail that is often to be found in NLA's TROVE. The Wikibook will allow me to record that detail for ready access by interested persons. I am slowly copying and pasting existing sections in the Wikipedia article into the Wikibook and then expanding that material with full quotes from Trove where appropriate. New sections in the Wikibook, when they near completion, will be condensed down into new sections in the Wikipedia article or new separate articles in Wikipedia. An example of this is the section on Nauru (b:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Australia#Nauru which has now been used to create w:History of wireless telegraphy and broadcasting in Nauru. This is a massive task which will probably never be complete, but hopefully the fragments created will be of lasting reference value. All comments welcome.--Samuel.dellit (talk) 23:31, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

G'day Guys, I find it quite difficult to separate out the history of (1) telegraphy, (2) telephony, (3) wireless telegraphy, (4) radio broadcasting, (5) television broadcasting, (6) radiocommunications, (7) newspapers and (8) new media. I would like to suggest that this article be renamed History of Communications and Media in Australia. To broaden the scope would allow a more integrated treatment, also this terminology is consistent with modern professional usage. Each of these areas already have their own articles in Wikipedia, but have little or no historical content. I won't do anything precipitous for the next few months, to allow the current split into History of broadcasting in Australia and Radio broadcasting in Australia to settle in. All comments welcome.--Samuel.dellit (talk) 01:27, 30 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sam! This article is a credit to you; hope it continues to improve. Do your sources have any info on Stereo-AM, a bugbear of mine as I purchased around 1985 (and still use daily) a rather expensive little Tandy unit that produced stereo sound that to my (then 40-year-old) ears sounded pretty good. I think Sony made a stereo Walkperson too. But around five years later and without fanfare 5AN and 5CL reverted to mono.

Another small point: did JJ really convert to JJJ ? Over here they're two different stations, JJJ handling a slightly older demographic. Not bad but my brain is tuned to modern jazz, prog rock and (pre-12-tone) classics :) Doug butler (talk) 17:56, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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