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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions
Discussions awaiting closure
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 11 (18 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 9 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 8 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 7 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 5 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 2 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 1 (3 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD
Nomination procedure
Twinkle
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
MassCFD
You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massCFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations
I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types
I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 March 19|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the
{{Cfd notice
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as
Closing procedure
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the
Redirecting categories
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see
{{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. BotsIn particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
This page has a backlog that requires the attention of willing editors. Please remove this notice when the backlog is cleared. |
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topicof its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set categoryin the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 11:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 188 open requests (. )
page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Welsh health actlivists to Category:Welsh health activists – C2A. Mason (talk) 01:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Les Nabis to Category:Nabis (art) – C2D: Per outcome at Talk:Nabis_(art)#Requested_move_10_March_2024 – robertsky (talk) 21:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bus rapid transit in New Jersey to Category:Bus rapid transit in the United States by state or territory – C2F * Pppery * it has begun... 20:57, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Professional wrestling in Osaka to Category:Professional wrestling shows in Osaka - C2C --User:Namiba 18:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Professional wrestling in Uniondale, New York to Category:Professional wrestling shows in Uniondale, New York – C2C--User:Namiba 12:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Four benevolent animals to Category:Four Holy Beasts – C2D per Four Holy Beasts. 3/4 are not even animals. Yinweiaiqing (talk) 12:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Staff of Abingdon School to Category:Teachers at Abingdon School – C2C per Category:Schoolteachers by school. Ericoides (talk) 06:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Aschcan School to Category:Ashcan School – C2A. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 05:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:The Bees (band) albums to Category:The Bees (English band) albums – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 02:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Episode Six members to Category:Episode Six (band) members – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 02:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Calamity Jane (band) members to Category:Calamity Jane (country music band) members – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 02:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:equestrian commentators to Category:equestrian sports commentators – C2C per Category:Equestrian sports * Pppery * it has begun... 01:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Doping cases in equestrian to Category:Doping cases in equestrian sports – C2C per Category:Equestrian sports * Pppery * it has begun... 01:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at multi-sport events to Category:Equestrian sports at multi-sport events – C2C per Category:Equestrian sports * Pppery * it has begun... 01:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2022 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2022 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2018 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2018 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2014 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2014 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2010 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2010 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2006 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2006 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2002 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2002 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 1998 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 1998 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 1994 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 1994 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 1986 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 1986 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 1982 Asian Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 1982 Asian Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the Summer Paralympics to Category:Equestrian events at the Summer Paralympics – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 1984 Summer Paralympics to Category:Equestrian events at the 1984 Summer Paralympics – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2008 Summer Paralympics to Category:Equestrian events at the 2008 Summer Paralympics – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2012 Summer Paralympics to Category:Equestrian events at the 2012 Summer Paralympics – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2016 Summer Paralympics to Category:Equestrian events at the 2016 Summer Paralympics – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2020 Summer Paralympics to Category:Equestrian events at the 2020 Summer Paralympics – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the Pan American Games to Category:Equestrian events at the Pan American Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2023 Pan American Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2023 Pan American Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2019 Pan American Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2019 Pan American Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2015 Pan American Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2015 Pan American Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Equestrian at the 2011 Pan American Games to Category:Equestrian events at the 2011 Pan American Games – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 01:02, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:CSF Bălți to Category:FC Bălți – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:CSF Bălți players to Category:FC Bălți players
- REDIRECT Category:CSF Bălți managers to Category:FC Bălți managers
- REDIRECT Category:CSF Bălți matches to Category:FC Bălți matches
- Category:Karmiotissa Polemidion FC to Category:Karmiotissa FC – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Karmiotissa Polemidion FC players to Category:Karmiotissa FC players – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Karmiotissa Polemidion FC managers to Category:Karmiotissa FC managers – C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:FC Saburtalo Tbilisi to Category:FC Iberia 1999 – C2D* Pppery * it has begun... 00:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:FC Saburtalo Tbilisi managers to Category:FC Iberia 1999 managers – C2D* Pppery * it has begun... 00:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:FC Saburtalo Tbilisi players to Category:FC Iberia 1999 players – C2D* Pppery * it has begun... 00:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Witch (band) albums to Category:Witch (American band) albums - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:William Hill buildings to Category:William Hill (English architect) buildings - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Warlord (band) albums to Category:Warlord (California band) albums - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Warlord (band) members to Category:Warlord (California band) members - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Vega (band) albums to Category:Vega (Turkish band) albums - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Vatan people to Category:Vatan (2002 newspaper) people - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ulysses (band) albums to Category:Ulysses (American band) albums - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tsunami (band) albums to Category:Tsunami (Virginia band) albums - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Tone (band) members to Category:Tone (jazz-fusion band) members - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:The Choir (garage rock) albums to Category:The Choir (Cleveland band) albums - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Strength (band) albums to Category:Strength (American band) albums - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Raze (group) songs to Category:Raze (house-music group) songs - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Han (state) to Category:Han (Warring States) - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Monarchs of Han (state) to Category:Monarchs of Han (Warring States) - C2D * Pppery * it has begun... 00:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Utah Royals FC players to Category:Utah Royals players – C2D: article is Utah Royals Joeykai (talk) 13:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians by state to Category:Eastern Orthodox Christians from the United States by state – C2B and C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Danish chronicles to Category:Chronicles about Denmark – C2C: Parent Category:History books about Denmark. "Danish" refers to "Denmark", not the Danish language, because most of these "Danish" chronicles were actually written in Latin. NLeeuw (talk) 19:37, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Willamette Bearcat football seasons to Category:Willamette Bearcats football seasons – C2A, C2C. Jweiss11 (talk) 19:30, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People's Artists of Moldova to Category:People's Artists of the Moldavian SSR – C2D: And this has the added benefit of merging the duplicate Mason (talk) 13:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- People's Artist of the Moldavian SSR is a redirect, so I don't think C2D applies. TSventon (talk) 16:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC)]
- The category description for People's Artists of Moldova referred to itself as People's Artists of the Moldavian SSR. But, you could very well be right. Mason (talk) 18:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have checked the contents and adapted the descriptions based on the Azerbaijan equivalents. TSventon (talk) 21:47, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests
PLEASE NOTE: I have moved all of the following Categories here pending adequate confirmation of their eligibility under C2C. I made a serious effort to look for that, but was unable to find such confirmation. There is a massive jumbled welter of Categories in this realm, with no prevailing pattern that I can discern. Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:16, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century Canadian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:20th-century Canadian people by descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1196829100 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian people by century and ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian people by century and descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1196829100 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:51, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:20th-century American people by ethnic or national origin to Category:20th-century American people by descent – C2C: Special:Diff/1195787538. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by century and ethnic or national origin to Category:American people by century and decent – C2C: Special:Diff/1195787538. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:33, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Male actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Male actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Male television actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Male television actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actresses by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Actresses by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actresses by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Television actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Television actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:30, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Actors by ethnic or national descent to Category:Actors by ethnicity – C2C: See Category:People by occupation and ethnicity. 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:American rappers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American rappers by descent – C2C: See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 10#Container categories by descent for all the ones below. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the United States Congress by ethnic or national origin to Category:Members of the United States Congress by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American gangsters by ethnic or national origin to Category:American gangsters by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Northern Mariana Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Northern Mariana Islands people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American social scientists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American social scientists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian people by ethnic or national origin and century to Category:Canadian people by descent and century – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to Category:Romanian people by descent and occupation – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Murdered American people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Murdered American people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Malaysian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Malaysian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:French politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Dutch politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Dutch politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Transnistrian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Transnistrian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Brazilian actresses by ethnic or national origin to Category:Brazilian actresses by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:East German people by ethnic or national origin to Category:East German people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:07, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American actresses by ethnic or national origin to Category:American actresses by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hawaii people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Hawaii people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Filipino politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Filipino politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Middle Eastern people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Middle Eastern people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Moldovan politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Moldovan politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cebuano people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Cebuano people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Swedish politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Swedish politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American photographers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American photographers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Indonesian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Indonesian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:05, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Romanian politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:Romanian politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American academics by ethnic or national origin to Category:American academics by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American short story writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American short story writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American novelists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American novelists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American dramatists and playwrights by ethnic or national origin to Category:American dramatists and playwrights by descent – C2A. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American poets by ethnic or national origin to Category:American poets by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian trade unionists by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian trade unionists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Canadian families by ethnic or national origin to Category:Canadian families by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 18:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Turks and Caicos Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Turks and Caicos Islands people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Montserratian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Montserratian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Manx people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Manx people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jersey people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Jersey people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Caymanian people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Caymanian people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:United States Virgin Islands people by ethnic or national origin to Category:United States Virgin Islands people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:58, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Sint Maarten people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Sint Maarten people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Saint Martinois people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Saint Martinois people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Martiniquais people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Martiniquais people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Overseas France by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from Overseas France by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Guadeloupean people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Guadeloupean people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:Anguillan people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Anguillan people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:British writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:British writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Welsh people by ethnic or national origin to Category:Welsh people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Category:People from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:54, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:People from Northern Ireland by ethnic or national origin to Category:People from Northern Ireland by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American writers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American writers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American trade unionists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American trade unionists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American scientists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American scientists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American professional wrestlers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American professional wrestlers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American politicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American politicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American physicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American physicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American musicians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American musicians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American models by ethnic or national origin to Category:American models by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American military personnel by ethnic or national origin to Category:American military personnel by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American lawyers by ethnic or national origin to Category:American lawyers by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American journalists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American journalists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American film directors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American film directors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American educators by ethnic or national origin to Category:American educators by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American comedians by ethnic or national origin to Category:American comedians by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American aviators by ethnic or national origin to Category:American aviators by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American artists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American artists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American architects by ethnic or national origin to Category:American architects by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American actors by ethnic or national origin to Category:American actors by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American activists by ethnic or national origin to Category:American activists by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:46, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by occupation and ethnic or national origin to Category:American people by occupation and descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and occupation to Category:American people by descent and occupation – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:44, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:English people by ethnic or national origin to Category:English people by descent – C2C. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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Moved to full discussion
- Category:Palestinian people by descent to Category:People from the State of Palestine by descent – C2C: per parent Category:People from the State of Palestine. Stisorder (talk) 22:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Palestinian people by descent" is the correct form. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: Do you also oppose the first one, or we can process it? Ymblanter (talk) 11:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Palestinian people by descent" is the correct form. Omnis Scientia (talk) 08:25, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French atheist writers to Category:French writers on Atheism – C2C: parent is Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 15:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I disagree, since this category can be included in Category:French atheists. A "writer on Atheism" is not necessarily an atheist, and an atheist writer can write about many different issues except Atheism. PedroAcero76 (talk) 11:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Btw, none of the writers listed in this category are "writers on Atheism", they didn't write on that issue. PedroAcero76 (talk) 11:54, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- In fact, I just solved the problem argued: parent category is now French atheists. PedroAcero76 (talk) 12:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PedroAcero76, This was *JUST* settled Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers. Are you really going to have us relitigate this? Mason (talk) 22:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: you settled "atheist writers", not this one. Btw, in your opinion Category:French Roman Catholic writers is useless, too, and should be renamed to Category:French writers on Roman Catholicism (I guess the same problem with Category:Roman Catholic writers, and so on...). Am I right? Too many issues you settled with such a short discussion, imo. But the worst thing is that you messed it all up. PedroAcero76 (talk) 23:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Excuse me? I would encourage you to assume good faith instead of what you have written here. Mason (talk) 23:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PedroAcero76 " But the worst thing is that you messed it all up." is inappropriate and not in good faith. Mason (talk) 23:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: I do assume good faith, but a bad result. One consequence will be that the new category will be an empty one: Jean Meslier didn't write on atheism, neither Marcel Proust did (he was just a novelist). In fact, Meslier wrote on Catholicism: he was a harsh critic of Roman Catholicism. So you will get an empty, useless category, mistaking concepts. That's what I tried to explain. I assume that we all try to improve Wikipedia, and I apologize if I didn't explain myself clearly enough. It wasn't my intention. PedroAcero76 (talk) 00:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PedroAcero76 " But the worst thing is that you messed it all up." is inappropriate and not in good faith. Mason (talk) 23:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Excuse me? I would encourage you to assume good faith instead of what you have written here. Mason (talk) 23:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: you settled "atheist writers", not this one. Btw, in your opinion Category:French Roman Catholic writers is useless, too, and should be renamed to Category:French writers on Roman Catholicism (I guess the same problem with Category:Roman Catholic writers, and so on...). Am I right? Too many issues you settled with such a short discussion, imo. But the worst thing is that you messed it all up. PedroAcero76 (talk) 23:50, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @PedroAcero76, This was *JUST* settled Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers. Are you really going to have us relitigate this? Mason (talk) 22:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- In fact, I just solved the problem argued: parent category is now French atheists. PedroAcero76 (talk) 12:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Btw, none of the writers listed in this category are "writers on Atheism", they didn't write on that issue. PedroAcero76 (talk) 11:54, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I disagree, since this category can be included in Category:French atheists. A "writer on Atheism" is not necessarily an atheist, and an atheist writer can write about many different issues except Atheism. PedroAcero76 (talk) 11:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:German atheist writers to Category:German writers on Atheism – C2C: parent is Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 15:03, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Russian atheist writers to Category:Russian writers on Atheism – C2C: parent is Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 14:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:English atheist writers to Category:English writers on Atheism – C2C: parent Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 14:50, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Category:Columbian atheist writers to Category:Columbian writers on AtheismCategory:Colombian atheist writers to Category:Colombian writers on Atheism – C2C: Parent is Category:Writers on Atheism and recent Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers Mason (talk) 14:41, 3 March 2024 (UTC)- Category:Albanian atheist writers to Category:Albanian writers on Atheism – C2C: Parent is Category:Writers on Atheism and recent Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers Mason (talk) 14:41, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American atheist writers to Category:American writers on Atheism – C2C: Parent is Category:Writers_on_Atheism and recent Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers Mason (talk) 14:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Austrian atheist writers to Category:Austrian writers on Atheism – C2C: Parent is Category:Writers_on_Atheism and recent Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_February_18#Category:Atheist_writers Mason (talk) 14:40, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Question Why 'Atheism' with a capital 'A'? Subcategories of Category:Atheism spell it with a lowercase 'a'. Otherwise I support the renamings. NLeeuw (talk) 17:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- I was just basing it off of the parent category. No other reason than that. Mason (talk) 23:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Moving all to full. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 3#Category:Writers on Atheism Mason (talk) 22:16, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- I was just basing it off of the parent category. No other reason than that. Mason (talk) 23:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Question Why 'Atheism' with a capital 'A'? Subcategories of Category:Atheism spell it with a lowercase 'a'. Otherwise I support the renamings. NLeeuw (talk) 17:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Health care in Cyprus to Category:Healthcare in Cyprus – C2C: Siblings in Category:Health care by country are all "Healthcare in FOO" Mason (talk) 02:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
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