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This page is a double redirect (Hypotext →‎ Hypertextuality →‎ Hypertext), please retarget to Hypertext. Thanks, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 02:49, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, thanks. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 10:14, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Article rather than redirect

This redirect is a bad idea. Hypotext merits a brief article e.g.

Gérard Genette defines "hypotext" as follows "Hypertextuality refers to any relationship uniting a text B (which I shall call the hypertext) to an earlier text A (I shall, of course, call it the hypotext), upon which it is grafted in a manner that is not that of commentary."

So, a hypertext derives from hypotext(s) through a process which Genette calls transformation, in which text B "evokes" text A without necessarily mentioning it directly.

Genette, Gérard. (1982). Palimpsestes. Seuil.

Not done: Your request is complicated by the existence of
WP:NEO to see how we usually define neologisms on Wikipedia. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:30, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Thanks - much appreciated. It's not so much that it's a very important term, but that having it as a redirect to Hypertext is more misleading than having no article at all. It is a technical term in a specific field and has been in use for 30 years.

I think I've done what you suggested at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hypotext (Literature) and it's waiting for review. I changed the name because I wasn't sure what it meant about creating a redirect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.18.81.147 (talk) 01:57, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hypotext not in Webster's 1985

This word is not in any of my dictionaries. It appears to be a wag the dog style attempt to cover the space of hypertext whose paternity is so oddly in dispute.

I coined "hypotext" to mean text purporting that the (www) was not invented before 87. Referring to cult that has sprung up in-wiki over the "no inventor" theory of the internet. I left a good reference on the hypertext page that makes that rather clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.230.184 (talk) 22:47, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. If you think the article doesn't belong, then you are welcome to nominate it at
policy on neologisms. It's pretty clear from the references that hypotext is a well-known concept in semiotics, though, so I don't think a deletion discussion would be successful. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:32, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply
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