Talk:Kociewie

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As I just noted at

I completely agree with this - the article will need to be called Kociewiacy rather than Kociewian. Wikociewie (talk) 09:06, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I have now found the term 'Kociewian' in use on the website of the Kociewskie Centrum Kultury. Wikociewie (talk) 19:46, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right, the adjective may be used, but the question is whether the noun Kociewians is used anywhere? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:38, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I put 'Kociewian' through JStor's search bar and managed to find what may be a lone example of the term being used as noun in a paper titled 'Self-Identification Structure in Opole Silesia and the Kashubia: A Comparative Analysis' by Jacek Kurczewski. Unfortunately I can't access the paper so can't check for sure. Wikociewie (talk) 11:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:COMMONNAME is an issue, but as Nihil novi notes below, common sense does suggest using the English term... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:30, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Okay so I've created a Kociewians draft and plonked in a couple of sections. I'm thinking the section on Culture in the Kociewie article could be merged into it and a section on language added? I've also started working on a history section to add to the Kociewie page. Wikociewie (talk) 11:41, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:DYK - let me know if you need assistance with this process. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 23:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply

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@Piotrus:So I've finally got around to creating the new Kociewians page - I moved a lot of content over so this page now needs a lot more work on it which I'll start on next! Please let me know what you think!? Wikociewie (talk) 18:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikociewie Looks good - I've fixed the interwikis. Thank you _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS. This may be the case of a topic that is simply not covered in English, waiting for a scholar to publish something in an English-language academic journal (or even a Polish, with an English abstract). See also

WP:RSUEQ). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply

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Please see https://globecraftmc.fandom.com/wiki/Kociewian_Language

"Kociewian (pol./koc. Kociewski) is a language spoken in Kociewie by Kociewians. It's a Lechitic language developed from Polish."

Here you have Kowiecian as both adjective and noun. (Analogously, for example, so is "American".)

What is this source, Globecraft Wiki?

Nihil novi (talk) 03:17, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunatley, that's not a reliable source, just some fan wiki with lower quality standards than Wikipedia... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:24, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you hew to the original Polish Kociewiacy, are you, for grammatical consistency, going to use the Polish

noun declension

... ?

Nihil novi (talk) 03:42, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No good choice eh... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]