Talk:List of leaders of Ukraine

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List of Russian rulers. Why does the Ukrainian one start at 1917, yet that one at 860? Does any one else find this at all strange? Ostap 00:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply
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Because some idiot claims that Russians were in 860, although we all know that it is not true. There was no such nationality as Russian at that time, but various diffrent Slavic tribes that had no clue that they will be forced into union of
Rus. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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PM

Should the

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I placed them/her in the See also section. —
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Besides, I do not believe that Hrushevsky was the President. There was no such actual title. And as far as I perceive his position resembles more of Prime-minister rather than President. The reason is he was a federalist and expected that Ukraine would be in some sort of union with Russia. Of course, then there were communists that as always trying just get in the way and wants to be rich by doing nothing except talking bad about others. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

Why is this article? There is an article

List of Ukrainian rulers. - Корінь (talk) 20:17, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply
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Gaps

For anyone else trying to piece together the complexities of Ukrainian history...

As mentioned above, there is another page,

List of Ukrainian rulers
, which goes much deeper into history.

During the German occupation, the chief administrator was Erich Koch.

There is something going on in the years 1941-1954 that I haven't figured out. This page currently says that Leonid Korniyets was head of state (chairman of the Rada) 1938-1939 and 1939-1954. But Korniyets's wikipedia bio only mentions 1939-1944... which indeed matches List of prime ministers of Ukraine. So Korniyets was (also?) prime minister 1939-1944, and was then succeeded by Khrushchev, who was prime minister 1944-1947, and who was also head of the Communist Party of Ukraine 1940-1947. Mporter (talk) 07:40, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Republic in exile

This article lists five presidents but President_of_Ukraine#In_exile says that the office of president was created in 1948 and that there were four, whilst President of Ukraine (in exile) says similar. -- Beardo (talk) 00:22, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:REDUNDANTFORKs

As

WP:REDUNDANTFORKs
. There are already separate lists for:

Etc. We don't need duplicate or even triplicate all the same information. I think the same solution as with List of wars involving Kievan Rus' as an Template:Excerpt in List of wars involving Ukraine is a good idea. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:33, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • User:Nederlandse Leeuw/Grand Prince of Kiev integrated list I created a draft for an integrated list here. What do you think? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:18, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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    WP:TOOBIG the current list almost certainly should be divided. With 124 KB, it exceeds the upper limit of 100 kB. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:25, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • At
    WP:REDUNDANTFORKs, and arbitrary/subjective/nationalistic/anachronistic/pseudohistorical frameworks, with all three modern countries claiming all or (selectively) part of the heritage/legacy of Kievan/Kyivan Rus' and the post-1240 Rus' principalities. E.g. there is no reason for us to (uncritically) accept Polotsk/Polatsk as the/a "predecessor" of modern Belarus, Vladimir-Suzdal as the/a "predecessor" of the Russian Federation, or Halych-Volyn/Galicia-Volhynia as the/a "predecessor" of modern Ukraine. There are countless problems with each of these claims. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:37, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply
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