Talk:Louis Bonaparte
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Does the text on the subject page about the second son make any sense? If the second son had still been alive, wouldn't he have become emperor instead of the third one? So how could he possibly live long enough to see his own heir inherit? I must be missing something. -- isis 21:53 Sep 17, 2002 (UTC)
Well, pretty much all the male Bonaparte's are called either Napoléon or Louis, so yo get easely confused. For instance Louis Bonaparte is not Louis Bonaparte but his father!
Louis' nicknames
On the Dutch page, Louis' nickname is given as de Lamme Koning. Can anyone translate this nickname? I can't find laame in any online dictionary. SigPig 15:01, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- Lamme Koning = Lame King Dedden 14:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks! I thought that's what it might be, but I wasn't 100% sure. SigPig 16:27, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
- He cant have been seen as smart. Even though it was not customary of him to know the Dutch langage, saying Conijn instead of Konink is more than a common mistake. Anyone can point out that he never knew where to install a Capital (or Principal) City, but I'm calling it a technical detail. The Conijn...thought he would rid himself of his French Nationality, and call himself a Dutchman. Any grown up Dutchman of that time, would either know or behave in such a manner, as if Batavia already was a (de facto) region of France. Napoleon was cheesed of with his own brother, dethroned him, and just said it that Batavia was independant no more. --82.134.28.194 (talk) 08:50, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! I thought that's what it might be, but I wasn't 100% sure. SigPig 16:27, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Berg
He was never Grand Duke of Berg, that was his son
Factual accuracy
Can someone tell me WHERE the factual accuracy is discussed, as none of the few discussion items do state that they link to the tag. If not, I will soon remove the tage on the page. Thanks Arnoutf 15:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
He never was Grand Duke of Berg and Cleves. Känsterle 20:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia article "Berg (state)" says: When, in 1808, Murat was promoted to the Kingdom of Naples, Napoleon's infant nephew, Prince Napoleon Louis (1804–1831, elder son of Napoleon's brother Louis Bonaparte, King of Holland) became Grand Duke, and the territory was administered by French bureaucrats. The Grand Duchy's short existence came to an end with Napoleon's defeat in 1813, and in the peace settlement that followed, Berg, along with much of the Westphalian region, was annexed to Prussia, forming a part of the Rhine province.
I think that means that title, and that of Duke of Cleves should be removed from Louis Bonapart, as Känsterle suggested. B. Meijlink 12:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv (talk) 21:59, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
- Louis II of Holland
- Question what name(s) are used most commonly? I found almost no sources for Louis II of Holland. By that I mean there was 5 google book sources for 'Louis I of Holland' and 1 for 'Louis II of Holland'.--Labattblueboy (talk) 05:01, 9 April 2010 (UTC)]
- That one book for Louis II is a novel. Fictional works are not reliable sources. talk) 11:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)]
- That one book for Louis II is a novel. Fictional works are not reliable sources.
- Oppose on the grounds that this name, like Jerome of Westphalia and Joseph I of Spain, would not be recognizable. We are allowed and encouraged to choose among recognizable names; we should not go outside those forms which an anglophone may be expected to recognize. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per UCN Flamarande (talk) 21:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose These terms are very, very rarely if ever used by reliable sources. I see thousands of references to "Louis Bonaparte" but no more than a handful of poor quality ones for "Louis I of Holland" and none at all for "Louis II of Holland". talk) 11:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)]
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Portrait
The portrait of him showing the least degree of beautification is found here. This bust has been claimed to portray
The original bust of Louis is too old to have any copyright. If there originally was any it has long expired. However, there could be copyright on the photo of the bust just like there is copyright on this photo of a statue portraying his younger brother Jérôme. If anyone knows he or she should contact me. My e-mail address can be found in the last page of this PDF.
2010-12-29 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.
The PDF I previously referred to have been removed from my website. My e-mail address can now be found here.
2014-01-12 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.247.167.113 (talk) 18:29, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
Was he hetero- or bisexual?
I don’t think Louis was
Is there any concrete indication of Louis having any
2012-08-01 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.
- The line was supported by a reference to a book (see http://www.amazon.co.uk/Napoleon-III-Profiles-Power-Mcmillan/dp/0582494834/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1343845917&sr=1-1) on his son (Napoleon III) which seems a reliable source WP:RS. I am not sure the book states that claim, but would need to check to figure it out for sure.
- Re your arguments, in the early 19th century homosexuality was no longer punishable, but that does not mean it was accepted in the ruling classes. Also, perhaps Louis was having a mistress to fool himself, or others. In any case there are many reasons. We have to go with the sources. Arnoutf (talk) 18:37, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Unless he felt a strong social pressure to have mistresses I find you explanation implausible.
2013-08-17 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.
Now it has been shown that Charles Louis Napoléon Bonaparte was illegitimate. However, if his mother’s husband confessed sexual attraction to other men to his wife’s son it does not matter if they were related or not.
2014-01-01 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.