Talk:Manny Waks

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This page appears to have been edited by a close member of Waks and has become into a PR page for Walks with no poor sources for the claims. Caseeart (talk) 08:05, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken care of the obvious COI style edits and reorganized article so it is less promoting. The issues now are the POV nature of the article and ref improvement and cleanup. Khabadnik (talk) 10:36, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here's some of the stuff I've done:

• switch infobox - officeholder is a bit undue for someone not that notable, person box is better;
• Organize sections: Personal life, Activism, Other activities;
• See also section added (link to similar group/activist)
• Ref section added
• Refine content: Publication list section is very promoting for someone not too notable, I've changed the list to sources that he is covered in the press.
• Organize content: Bits and pieces moved around to clarify sections.

That's all for now. Khabadnik (talk) 10:43, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually we are back to square one. A bunch of PR added for the subject. Will take care of it a different time.Caseeart (talk) 07:32, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Caseeart, you are an apologist for Chabad and seem to be removing material in multiple articles that are critical of Chabad. That should stop. The Jewish community worldwide is alarmed at the sexual abuse that has been covered up and wants a change. Religious leaders need to report sexual abuse to the authorities not cover it up, and those who report that abuse, like Manny Waks, should have their story told, not censored. VanEman (talk) 06:26, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at your editing history you are constantly posting lengthy negative undue non neutral information on articles about religious Jews in general. This article again you post lengthy poorly sourced information since it is another way to write against religious Jews.

It is not relevant if the is a great guy or not. This article should stop being a PR for him. Caseeart (talk) 04:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

POV

Additional background is needed to provide balance for the POV topics. Khabadnik (talk) 10:43, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ref improve

Refs need to be added and cleaned up. Also there might be some duplicates. Khabadnik (talk) 10:43, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

===This article has been completely gutted by people who seem to be associated with Chabad and are removing material that is critical of Chabad. They are pushing their POV that anything critical of Chabad must be untrue. Need a lot of work to reflect the accomplishments of Waks, particularly the fact that the Australian government in finally investigating Chabad and how it suppressed reporting of sexual abuse. There needs to be a lot of work done to have this be a robust article. VanEman (talk) 06:23, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually you ruined the neutrality of this article by posting your poorly sourced PR and hatred against religious Jews.Caseeart (talk) 04:59, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

When I created the article I created a neutral factual article. No opinions. We did not write "how great Manny Waks is" How he fights abuse etc.

We also did not write negative about him for example that he publicizes alleged child molesters without any arrests or charges and that one person who he publicized and sent out to the news was never actually convicted and committed suicide[1]. We also did not write that he got 300,000 dollars from the Austrelian government and then soon moved out to France.

Now that this has become an opinionated PR - Maybe we should add those cases as well. But I think we should just remove all opinions.Caseeart (talk) 05:03, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice try, Caseeart. But the schools admitted that sexual abuse had been reported and that they did nothing about it. Please give the Jewish community in Australia a little credit for finally admitting what they did and did not do. Even the NYC offices have published new info on child sexual abuse. The article has excellent documentation and references from reliable newspapers.VanEman (talk) 04:34, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That has nothing to do with your making this article promotion for it's subject. This is not a news outlet and not a soapbox. Just because you are looking to write against Religious Jews - it has nothing to do with here. Caseeart (talk) 07:02, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"without any arrests or charges" - Daniel “Gug” Hayman was convicted - see Abuse doco sequel set to air

You can't push neutrality concerns when convicted child molesters have publicised their admission of offending. -- Callinus (talk) 12:51, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I did not exactly understand the last comment. The article is a major promotion for the subject without introducing all sides. This article is not a shame list of people convicted of crimes. I will again remove some of the material that has little to do with "Waks" and is only there to whitewash other BLP figures. Please do not put it back unless you explain how it meets BLP guidelines, BLP1 guidelines, is written neutral and explain why this needs such a long soapbox style ranting on THIS article. Caseeart (talk) 08:27, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Open to adding material but please use talk page before large scale edits. Please use a neutral POV. This means to present all sides of the story including the controversies. Caseeart (talk) 00:06, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Caseeart (talk) Waks has now created a new nonprofit with a global reach and has been welcomed by the Knesset committee on the protection of the child. We need to cover his activities in Israel, not just Australia and the U.S. This is up to date and well documented and referenced. Waks' activism on behalf of children has been covered in respected Jewish and secular publications, including Newsweek, Haaretz, Times of Israel and The Forward. Caseeart, you need to stop pushing your "no bad news" POV, even when that news is covered in respected news outlets. Instead, help to make it known that Israel is taking the brave step of making sure children are listened to, taken seriously and will be protected. VanEman (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your activism of making sure children are listened to. I created this informational neutral article until you came and dumped very lengthy unrelated controversies against certain communities and BLP as a way to badmouth them even though it had almost nothing to do with this subject. In General Please stop unbalancing articles by dumping lengthy recent "controversies" that dominate subjects that are dated thousands of years back.Caseeart (talk) 04:19, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Family members of the subject should only be included to the extent that they were involved with the subject. I will soon include a well documented version of his brother's side of the story to further balance the article. Caseeart (talk) 10:54, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The first line in this sections says "Born Menachem Leib in Israel" What does that mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crowmath (talk • contribs) 12:31, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]