Talk:Mykolaiv cluster bombing

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Have there been more cluster bombings in Mykolaiv? If not, we should drop "13 March" from the title. To be fair I don't know much about warfare and it could be obvious that the city has been bombed more times with this form due to the fact that there's a battle going on in the city. I don't know how common cluster bombing is. Super Ψ Dro 14:27, 18 March 2022 (UTC) Super Ψ Dro 14:27, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you look through OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine reports or the war in Donbas articles, then I think that you'll find that both Russian/DPR/LPR and Ukrainian forces have been using cluster munitions since 2014. However, political willingness to use cluster munitions by Ukrainian forces probably dropped a lot from 2014 to 2021, with growing awareness of international humanitarian law and politicians and military deciding that they didn't want to end up in prison in The Hague or as convicted war criminals in other countries. These are just my guesses.

As for the issue of the title, unfortunately I think it would be better to keep "13 March 2022" for the moment, since I'm sceptical about this being the only or last notable Mykolaiv cluster bombing of this invasion. Boud (talk) 16:04, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

there have been other cluster bombings on 7 and 11 March and later on 29 July, these should be added in.

in addition, i think we should merge the government building airstrike here and rename this article to "2022 Bombings of Mykolaiv", "2022 Mykolaiv Bombings", etc, as this and the government building airstrike's articles are too small on size and coverage to be standalone articles, if we are going to merge and rename this article, we should also move the bombings from the Battle of Mykolaiv article here. 2804:14D:4482:46D:A00B:B77E:8E98:2EBC (talk) 23:08, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I propose merging the text and images of

• Support As per nom, this incident is not notable enough for its own page, and is much better suited for the Mykolaiv strikes (2022–present) article. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose It is a notable incident from the first phase of the war. It is specific by the fact that cluster bombs were used against civilians.--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 15:30, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Notable incident, the cluster bombs were used. Teterev53 (talk) 17:38, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]