Talk:Orang Asli

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Most of the links in the Demography section are broken, save for one, which is a page in Malay. Nyoome (talk) 05:50, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should this page be upgraded to B-Class. It's more comprehensive now.Wai Hong (talk) 08:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ya, seems to be a B-class article now. kawaputra^torque 09:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Orang asli not getting the rights of bumiputera has always seemed an unfairness to me and while my personal viewpoint is irrelevant, I added a section on the lack of recognition from the source alway used in the article. AFAIK, Orang Asli also don't get any of the benefits of the NEP, no quotas etc. There are perhaps bigger issues but perhaps worthy of more mention in the article. I believe SUHAKAM has argued that orang asli should receive recognition in the constititution but couldn't find mention of this in the source used in Bumiputera (Malaysia) (See Talk:Bumiputera (Malaysia)#Constitution/SUHAKAM) so haven't added this for now. There's some interesting comments in the source we use at [1] from Mahathir and TAR which could perhaps be incorporate in the article (and are probably better then the unsourced claims of the Malay view) but I wasn't sure how to do so as the comments are specifically reflecting on them being bumiputera at the section is about.

BTW SUHAKAM generally is probably a decent source for issues relating to orang asli rights and the like. For example [2] mentions that they're currently preparing a report due for release in mid 2010.

Nil Einne (talk) 17:40, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Malaysian constitution doesn't use the word "bumiputra", rather it uses more specific definitions; it defines only "Malay" and "indigenous peoples" (Article 160(2)), "natives" of Sarawak (161A(6)(a)), and "natives" of Sabah (Article 161A(6)(b)). The "indigenous people" undoubtedly refers to Orang Asli, and as such, they are entitled to the same rights as the Malay and natives of Sabah and Sarawak. Your perception that orang asli doesn't receive constitutional recognition is something that comes out of your ignorance of the constitution itself. Maybe because during the time you wrote that comment, there was lack of content on the Bumiputra comment page. In practice, the orang asli has always been eligible for their special rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.171.164.46 (talk) 14:25, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The term Orang Asal is a self-identification term that encompasses all indigenous people of Malaysia, whether in the Peninsular or in Borneo. Orang Asli OTOH is a specific term that refers to the indigenous people of Peninsular Malaysia only. The redirect of Orang Asal to this page might require some review. - Bob K | Talk 06:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"as with their help, the Malayan army was able to defeat the communist insurgents" doesn't sound right. This conflict was fought largely by British and Commonwealth forces. --163.119.172.226 (talk) 13:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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@Cat12zu3:Orang Asli refers to the indigenous ethnic groups of the Malay Peninsula. Orang Ulu refers to a group of 27 minority indigenous ethnic groups in Sarawak and to some extend in Sabah as well. Orang Asal is a collective term that encompasses all indigenous ethnic groups, both in west and east Malaysia. Quoting from the same IWGIA source "They are collectively known as Orang Asal. The Orang Asli are the Indigenous Peoples of Peninsular Malaysia." -Jeblat (talk) 13:07, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah...how ignorant am I, my bad, didn't read the 1st paragraph. Orang Asil only for West Malaysia...Hmm... Got it. Thanks. --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 13:14, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]