Talk:Paul Young (singer, born 1947)

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No consensus to move. The move while this discussion was open did not help. Feel free to propose another move if appropriate and refrain from moves during the discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:17, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This would provide better search results for people who are looking for this Paul Young and not the other Paul Young of "Wherever I lay my Hat" fame. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Young

This is very relevant at the moment because Paul Young of Mike + The Mechanics and Sad Café although dead has a new album titled "Paul Young Chronicles" which has been produced using material recovered from the musicians home studio, and the album features members of Genesis and 10cc.

Featured famous musicians: Paul Carrack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Carrack Mike Rutherford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rutherford Eric Stewart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Stewart Graham Gouldman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Gouldman

I hope the title can be changed as I feel this will help others who are searching for info relating to this musician and his new material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.62.25.74 (talk) 12:49, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Above request placed on behalf of this user, following request [1] [2] - without offering any opinion on it.  Chzz  ►  18:25, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose this request as the disambig is too specific but support move to
  Paul Young (singer born 1947). – ukexpat (talk) 21:29, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose and second suggestion about, per
  WP:PRECISION.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:50, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply
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• I certainly think naming at least one of his bands is going to make the subject more recognizable to people than giving his date of birth (how many people, even among those who've heard of him, know he was born in 1947?) If he's better known for being in Mike and the Mechanics, we could use that as the disambiguator instead of Sad Cafe. Generally we don't double up disambiguators, especially when one of them is sufficient to disambiguate the subject, though I wouldn't be particularly strongly opposed to doing so in this case. --Kotniski (talk) 14:54, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Paul Young (singer, born 1947) as consensus has been established. (non-admin closure) — Music1201 ^talk 01:45, 23 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• As cumbersome as the current title seems, it's probably the most helpful for readers not looking for the other singer Paul Young. Expecting readers to know that the singers were born in 1947 or 1956 is asking a bit much. Assuming that readers know that one Paul Young is dead and the other still alive is likewise a stretch. Knowing that this Paul Young, famous for his vocals, was also a percussionist is not likely either. Finally, "band singer" doesn't even really make sense. Any other options? —  AjaxSmack  14:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to Paul Young (singer, born 1947). that's the standard disambiguation in these cases. Considering the other Young is at the basename it is hard a normal reader would confuse them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbhotch (talk • contribs) 17:09, 15 May 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]
• Over three years ago, on April 13, 2013, I moved this entry's main header from
  Paul Young (Sad Café and Mike + The Mechanics singer), where it has remained [as of this writing]. Admittedly, this title seems too close to Paul Young (Mike + The Mechanics, Sad Café), that was proposed in the earlier RM initiated April 25, 2011, for which there was no consensus, and I offer my apologies for the undiscussed 2013 move. In fact, judging by the comments, both from 2011 and the current discussion, even though any move affecting the parenthetical qualifier applied to this Paul Young would need to be discussed, consensus, if any, is likely to be mixed. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 20:49, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply
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It's okay, Roman. You can fix this by telling us your position about this proposal if you please. This is George Ho actually (Talk) 00:41, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your understanding, George. Had I left well enough alone after

Paul Young (singer born 1947)/Paul Young (singer, born 1947), while continuing to take into account the understandable misgivings about finding a satisfactory description. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 11:49, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply

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• Move to Paul Young (singer, born 1947). CookieMonster755 ^{📞 ✉ ✓} 22:49, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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