Talk:Petroleum industry in Nigeria

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The first paragraph claims both that "Nigeria is the second largest oil and gas producer in Africa" and that "Nigeria is the largest oil and gas producer in Africa". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.15.214.191 (talk) 05:34, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following tell different things about the Niger Delta population...

"The Niger Delta is comprised of 70,000 km² of wetlands formed primarily by sediment deposition. Home to 20 million people and 40 different ethnic groups, this floodplain makes up 7.5% of Nigeria's total land mass."

"According to Amnesty International 70% of the six million people in the Niger River Delta live off of less than 1$ US per day".

The second statement cites a source... But the source tells nothing about 6 millions inhabitants.

I found at http://www.earthrights.net/nigeria/news/definition.html that the Niger Delta is home to 10 million people but I am not sure at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Powro (talk • contribs) 21:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Belated thanks. I deleted the inaccurate & unsourced 6 million. —Patrug (talk) 23:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking of changing the order around a bit to provide more context at the start. I would like to break out a "Geology" section at the start to explain the technical details. I was thinking of a "Historical and political context" section immediately after, followed with a section on the current state of the oil development. Currently there is a bit of politics in the "reserves and production" section, which I feel can wait a bit. Thoughts? - BanyanTree 00:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ironically (as i am studying for degree in the subject) i elected not to include a geology section, but i can see how it would facilitate explanation of the circumstances. i'm really not sure where to put the history section. the whole structure is actually difficult because it seems you cant get the whole picture until the entire article is read. all the topics overlap quite a bit, with environmental and socio-economic factors causing political conflict, and politics determining what is done about said environmental factors. i feel this way particularly about the environment and the ogoniland and conflicts sections (i havent created the more recent conflicts yet), because it raises the question of which needs to be listed first: the conflict, or the reasons for the conflict? I think it would be very difficult to integrate both topics, because of the highly statistical nature of reporting on environmental and social conditions.

also im very concerned about usage of quotes, because it seems like much of the info can be best stated simply by quoting directly from Human Rights Watch (1999 report mostly) or other sources. what is your opinion on existence quotations? to this point i have made every effort to avoid using them, but sometimes there are only so many ways to make a statement. thanks.--Gozar 04:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Given that the title of article is "Petroleum in Nigeria" rather than "Modern conflicts relating to petroleum extraction in Nigeria", I think we're obliged to deal with the broad overview of why and where there is petroleum. Also, geography may not be destiny, but it certainly helps in framing root causes. Why the Niger delta and why the Ogoni? I, quite sadly, was thinking about this while I was out and putting the relevant geological info into

Niger Delta Field, which I found while browsing related articles, and then a one paragraph summary under a see also may be quickest way of getting it out of the way and separating the environmental factors from the political in a way that doesn't seem forced. I am 75% sure that the Niger Delta Field is the same mentioned here

, but would like confirmation.

Has to be - it is where all Nigerian oil is (Nigeria is mentioned in the article).

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I can try to fill out

Niger Delta Field

, partially just to get me oriented, so may disappear for a bit while I'm on that other article.

I am generally anti-quote, and try to use them only when quoting people or when something is so unbelievable that people may think that I'm misunderstood if I put it in my own words. Quotations also are hard to play around with when you want to add new information or caveats in the future. If at all possible, I would avoid them. Cheers, BanyanTree 06:59, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Having done a quick scan, I also think that much oil-related info in this article can be merged into

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alright, you guys seem to have well-developed ideas on the structural components. right now im focusing on trying to get the information in. i will continue to input into the petroleum in Nigeria article until we define where all the material is ultimately going. --Gozar 19:33, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.omoigui.com/files/palace_coup_august_1985.pdf

Do the recurrent instances of "fuel spills that result in disastrous explosions and fires" warrant a section or an article? A

yes, this could certainly constitute its own section; unfortunately I've havent made significant edits to the article in some time. though you're more than welcome to "be bold", as they say and create the section/article.--gozar 17:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Belated thanks. The article now has a table of Nigerian explosion casualties in the section on "Poverty and chronic underdevelopment". —Patrug (talk) 23:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In the article, in the section

I would agree that pipeline tapped oil is pretty much always sold for profit, though I suppose personal use is another possibility.--gozar 17:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there information on amateur refining facilities and/or techniques? --

McTrixie/Mr Accountable 19:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply

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Yes, the other possibility is to sell the oil to buy weapons that support internal guerrilla activities and insurgency.Luperculus (talk) 18:10, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't recall seeing information about amateur refining anywhere, which probably indicates the correctness of your initial statement regarding illegally tapped oil being sold for profit. I suppose a search of the internet could yield something but I can't point out any specific sources.--gozar 19:36, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Belated thanks. For now, I reworded slightly to say "is often sold". —Patrug (talk) 23:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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