Talk:Poker Face (song)

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to move - Whilst !voting is evenly balanced, the support !voters have provided a much clearer basis for their position in

• Oppose per
  WP:PDAB. 162 etc. (talk) 08:44, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose as there's at least one other song with an article. If this was the primary topic, it would simply be at "Poker Face". Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 09:07, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose, and next editor Speedy close - the rationale of RM is false Poker Face (Ayumi Hamasaki song) In ictu oculi (talk) 17:08, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The only thing false here is your statement. You should know better at this point that partial disambiguation is allowed.
    -- Calidum 22:41, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose per above. There is no point in having an incomplete title ambiguity. If it isn't a primary topic, make it clear what the article is. Gonnym (talk) 18:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Support; the Ayumi Hamasaki exists with only one source and should be sent to
  primary topic by way of long-term significance (and I would in fact suggest it be moved to "Poker Face" with a hatnote from poker face, but I don't feel that's a move that's likely to garner support). Sean Stephens (talk) 22:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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• Support. I wonder if anyone actually reads
  -- Calidum 22:41, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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• Support. Agree with Calidum that partial disambiguation is explicitly allowed per
  WP:PDAB, so I'm confused as to where the opposition is coming from. In fact, the PDAB page specifically lists the Thriller album as an example. Gaga's page has almost two orders of magnitude more views than the Hamasaki song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Combefere (talk • contribs) 21:42, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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• Support per Calidum; I'm neutral on a move to Poker Face and relying on Small Details to distinguish from the dab Poker face. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 00:19, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. The nomination statement for this discussion was just a bare assertion of primariness without any supporting evidence, and some editors opposed for this reason alone. Among those who engaged with the merits of the move per se, editors were roughly split, depending on how they weighed the pageviews, the disambiguating power of

• oppose the expression is clearly the
  wp:primarytopic—blindlynx 04:00, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose for the same reason as above. Poker Face is a common expression and more likely to be referenced than this song. While we're at it, this article should probably be renamed Poker Face (Lady Gaga song) since it's not the only song named Poker Face with an article. --Shadow (talk) 06:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Would just like to add onto my comment...at the time I made it I didn't not see the above conversation about naming it Poker Face (song) vs Poker Face (Lady Gaga song). Based on the consensus above, it seems the majority supported just (song). Shadow (talk) 19:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose putting your point across in ALLCAPS doesn't make it so. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: This article shall be renamed to Poker Face (Lady Gaga song) per
  talk) 08:41, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Per above if the page is not moved I'd weakly support moving it to
  Poker Face (Lady Gaga song) since this one gets 7,436 views but the other gets 216[[1]] though I'd agree it is well known especially for the title case version so there may be a case for it to be primary overall. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose per reasoning above and because ALLCAPS is a bit alarming. No opinion on moving to
  Poker Face (Lady Gaga song). ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 12:12, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Support based on pageviews this is the primary topic for the title case.
  talk) 12:18, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose in a hundred years, I find it far more likely that people will be talking about the expression than the song, as was the case 100 years ago. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak support per
  WP:DIFFCAPS. While the expression is undoubtedly the primary topic by long-term significance, it is capitalized differently than the song, so we have a situation analogous to (for example) ice cube vs. Ice Cube. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:35, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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• Oppose - no particular argument or explanation has been provided by the nom. Sergecross73 msg me 04:32, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support But not per nom. Rather,
  WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to blank expression. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:55, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply
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