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So I recently came across a very old complaint about the unclear distinctions between four articles.

This happens to be the job that I do, and to some degree I use them all as synonyms. My job title might be "senior software developer" or "senior software engineer" depending on the whims of the company I work for, but if someone on the subway or a census form is asking what I do, I usually say "programmer" because people are just confused by "developer" or "software developer". In professional contexts, in my experience some people use these terms more specifically, distinguishing a programmer as someone who doesn't need to be able to do much more than turn a detailed specification into code, whereas a developer should be able to handle design aspects and things like scalability and security - as should a software engineer, but there's more of a connotation that they have an engineering degree instead of being self-taught.

I thought a quick note in the intro to cross-reference the two articles might do the job, but

Looking at various articles more carefully, I also think readers might benefit if we merged

There is no industry-wide standard terminology, so "programmer" and "software engineer" might refer to the same role at difference companies. Most typically, someone with a job title of "programmer" or "software developer" might focus on implementing a detailed specification into computer code, fixing bugs, and performing code reviews. They might have a degree in

software development methodologies.^[1]

A systems architect is a related job title, which might involve producing technical designs while leaving the actual programming to others.

Thoughts about adding a Terminology section or merging or both? -- Beland (talk) 02:01, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, to get things rolling I added the suggested section. -- Beland (talk) 02:09, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This statement was tagged in the article since March 2011. It followed the statement "Programming is widely considered a profession". I am moving it here to preserve it, in case anyone wants to find some sources and restore it. (I didn't find any sources that said it isn't a profession.)

"(although some^[who?] authorities disagree on the grounds that only careers with legal licensing requirements count as a profession)."

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Market changes in Nepal: According to data published on 2023, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports employment of developer-related jobs is expected to grow by 25% from 2021 to 2031 — in their words, “much faster than average.” The high demand for programmers and developers is driven by the increasing importance of technology in our lives and a skills gap in the job market. Probie33 (talk) 03:11, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a

"change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Pinchme123 (talk) 03:56, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Hello, this is a talk page about the Wikipedia article, not a general forum for questions about programming. ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 11:44, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If a programmer is "person who creates computer programs" then Ada Lovelace was not one as she only wrote part of a program. Suggest: A programmer is one who authors code.

Second paragraph was added but not integrated with the first. Duplication.

Third paragraph opens a floodgate of which languages to include ... people has adding more over time. Just link to computer language.

Programming is a skill. Software developer and software engineer are titles ... or roles or something ... not really skills. I guess programmer could be a title too, but generally not. Consider the CEO saying: we need to hire a lawyer. The person hired would be a lawyer, but their title would not be "lawyer".

In summary, the lede needs a re-write. Stevebroshar (talk) 15:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]