Talk:Rosalind Chao

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Although she has over 5000 webpages, I found only one two-paragraph bio of her in Chinese (

Simplified) (page now gone, I used cache) and one good data list
in English.

Birthyear: According to the data list, she was born in 1964/1956/1959. Nobody knows for sure. I guess I could fan-mail her, but I had bad experiences with fan mails before, with they deflected back at me with court restraining orders. No, they just didn't get reply, at all. Still like them anyway, with a fine touch of hate! *joke* --Menchi 14:48 29 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Rosalind Chao graduated from Pomona College in 1978. She was therefore probably born in 1956, as were all the other members of that graduating class. (of which I was a member) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.241.174.129 (talkcontribs) 19:46, 7 October 2005

California birth records list a Rosalind C. Chao born in Los Angeles County 23 Sep 1957. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Questors (talkcontribs) 06:59, 29 December 2005

Are these available online anywhere, so the information can be
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Clearly she could not have graduated from college at age 14 so clearly the 1964 date (and indeed any date from the 1960s) is not possible. And if she was a genius who could graduate from college as a child the fan publications would have made a big deal about it. Thus the main article is factually incorrect. It seems likely it is in the mid-1950s with 1956 or 1957 being the most likely assuming four years of college immediately after an on-schedule high school graduation. MichaelSH 01:41, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did she actually graduate from Pomona College? In an interview she said she transferred to USC from Pomona. I don't think she graduated from either college. The 1957 birth year cited by California Birth Records is by far the most accurate source. How about ahigh school yearbook? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annavronsky (talkcontribs) 02:12, 8 November 2006

Uncited Source

Removed and changed "Chao plays one of the eight main characters in The Joy Luck Club. However, her favourite role is a minor one in What Dreams May Come, where she played flight attendant Leona, the physical manifestation of the protagonist's dead daughter." It has no source and should noe be there till something is added —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omglazers (talkcontribs) 16:12, 23 July 2006

Reconstitution

As a

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Star Trek On 2008-02-12,
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Mods

If her parents ran a "Chinese-American" restaurant, then it logically follows that she's of Chinese descent. I've replaced a modified version of the Simon line, removing the "noted" term. I agree with your editing down of the ST section; looking back, I did go a tad overboard. Also, there is no article for "newswriting", so linking it accomplishes nothing but red text.DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC (talk) 16:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of people run "Chinese" restaurants w/o being Chinese, I know for a fact that over half of them in the
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Thor, as to your points:
  1. - If nothing else, "Chao" is a Chinese surname.
  2. - I agree with the redlink; it's only an aesthetic objection when I really think about it. That and the fact that it's very rarely that I've ever seen a redlink lead to a new article(but perhaps that speaks more to my taste in pages than peoples contributions).
  3. - I'll cut it down just to married until/unless more data is forthcoming. I get the feeling they try to keep their kids out of the spotlight, which I applaud.
  4. - I may rework the ST part eventually, but I'm not losing any sleep over it. Onward! DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC (talk) 13:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It may traditionally be a Chinese surname (
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Yes, Chinese restaurants aren't always run by
Eastern Asian, I would understand; but Asian's just not specific enough. I think the evidence is sufficient to say she's ethnic Chinese or Chinese American, even if by some off-chance, she's also Vietnamese American, Korean American, Mongolian American, Japanese American, Filipino American, Singaporean American, Malaysian American, Indonesian American, or Bruneian American. Among the latter five (Southeast Asia), she would most likely be considered overseas Chinese, anyway. Labelling people into ethnicities is unnecessary, but people with ties to a certain ethnic group feel sentimental or proud when they see the success of members of that group. That's why I'm going to boldly put a Chinese American category tag at the bottom. Feel free to RV. :)--Thecurran (talk) 06:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply
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I don't disagree with you in the least, but everything you know and understand (along with everything I know and understand, and everything
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Birth year

What year was Chao really born? I noticed that when I dug all the way back into the oldest versions of this article, it stated she was born in 1956 or 1957. Now it says 1959. I Googled her and most sites say 1957, only a few said 1959. But this article says 1959. What year was she really born? Anybody know for sure? Something just seems off here...

Galaxy 02:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply
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The issue here is
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sources

Under her name

Why does it say "B.J." under her name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.94.98.192 (talk) 04:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Section rewrite

The section regarding the filmography needs to organized better. Winterysteppe (talk) 23:35, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Birth year again

A recent edit added this source for Chao's age: [4]. The source quotes her as saying most sources online have her age as 10 years too high (e.g. born in 1957), and specifically that Wikipedia does as well. The source supports the 1967 date. However, that would make her only 10 in this photo from a 1977 episode of Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew: [5]. She is definitely not 10 in that photo. I don't think a source that claims the 1967 date can be trusted, in light of that evidence, so I've reverted to the previous version. --Fru1tbat (talk) 17:11, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping this would just go away, but her birth year is still being switched back and forth. Her college lists her graduation year as 1978, and photos from multiple roles in the 70s and early 80s make it clear she could not have been born in 1967 - whatever reliable sources have that year are pretty obviously wrong. I'm familiar with all the relevant policies and guidelines - surely there is a solution that satisfies all the relevant aims here. This is getting absurd. --Fru1tbat (talk) 13:02, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And once more, since this is still ongoing, and the party/parties trying to push a younger age/later birthdate have refused to engage in any real dialog, there is fairly ample evidence online against a 1967 birthdate. Not all of it qualifies as reliable sources for article content, but it should absolutely be reliable enough to aid conscientious editors wishing to make an informed decision about this dispute. Which, it needs to be said, looks an awful lot like a concerted PR effort by multiple single-purpose accounts. --Fru1tbat (talk) 18:40, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2020

The Link that shows Rosalind Chao's graduation date from Pomona College is linked to a Blaisdell article that does NOT reference Rosalind Chao in it. Therefore that link should be removed. Why would you refer to an article that does not mention that person?? Mthompsonwiki (talk) 17:50, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I pulled the Aug 7 2020 snapshot of that page from the archive, as it has the information about Ms. Chao attending Pomona and graduating USC. It looks like Chao's section was removed from the 2018 award page between that snapshot and the next snapshot on Oct 1 2020. Coincidentally, that timeframe was the same as a concerted effort to change Ms. Chao's birthdate in this article to the dubious 1967 date. I wonder if Pomona took back her award as well, or if they let her keep it... --Fru1tbat (talk) 18:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]