Talk:Sheriffdom

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Reconstruction from 1911encyclopedia.org:

1. Elginshire
2. Dumfries and Galloway (Dumfriesshire, Wigtownshire, the Stewartry of Kirkcudbright
3. Kincardineshire, Aberdeenshire, Banffshire
4. Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire, Clackmannanshire
5. Orkney, Caithness, Shetland
6. Forfarshire
   (Angus)
7. Kinross-shire and Fife
8. Selkirkshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire
9. Renfrewshire and Bute
10. Lanarkshire
11. Lothians
12. Argyllshire

Missing counties -

• Sutherland
• Ross and Cromarty
• Perthshire

There are supposed to be 15, so this might be the list.

[1] notes that the Sheriffdoms of Perth and Angus were united in 1934.

[2] quite interesting too. Morwen - Talk 12:49, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like sheriffdom boundaries were not actually redrawn in 1996, and they were just defined in new terms. Also I note the references to wards. The wards are now quite historic for local government election purposes. They become so in 1999. It would be useful to have reference to the date they were created (ie first used in an election). Were there any changes to ward boundaries between 1975 and 1996? Would be useful to have reference also to any legislation defining current sherrifdom boundaries. Laurel Bush 14:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The boundaries created by the The Sheriffdoms (Alteration of Boundaries) Order 1996 are still current, I think. They were aligned to wards that existed at that time. Although those wards are gone, the definition of each sheriffdom wouldn't change (a line on a map is a line on a map) and I don't think they have been redefined since.

You might find this from 2004 interesting: [3]. It seems according to this [4] from 2005 that the sheriffdom boundaries are due for review, possibly to correspond to criminal justice and/or police areas. Lozleader 14:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. I have had some recent correspondence with someone in the Scottish Court Service, and it is starting to look like I have been getting some very imprise and therefore misleading information. Re ward boundaries, I see that change to ward boundaries would not itself change sheriffdom boundaries. My point is that references to ward boundaries do not mean much, in terms of being able to find maps, without reference to the period when effective for election purposes, or to order creating the boundaries. I am not clear as to the meaning of "criminal justice area". Perhaps a term used in relation to local authority involvement in administration of justice? Laurel Bush 16:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I meant Community Justice (Authority) Areas, (half-asleep) which seem to be a new thing, or will be? [5]

As far as (old) ward boundaries go, unfortunately that is the only definition given. I have no idea where "ward 65" of South Lanarkshire in 1996 was.

Worse still, I see that the lieutenancy areas are defined in The Lord-Lieutenants (Scotland) Order 1996 with reference to wards, council areas, regional electoral districts and even (intriguingly) bits of counties, which seems a bit "pick and mix", and again pretty difficult to follow on a map: at least three sets of boundaries across 21 years! Lozleader 16:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. Sometimes I think some people are being deliberately confusing, to cover their own tracks. Laurel Bush 15:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]