Talk:Spring of Bandusium

"Corrected Translation"

This was added to the article (and now removed), despite there already being a translation. I think the current translation is fine, but here it is anyway for reference/discussion etc.

Madder 19:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply

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" Corrected Translation:

O fons Bandusiae splendidior uitro O Bandusian Spring, more Brilliant than glass dulci digne mero non sine floribus worthy of sweet wine not without flowers cras donaberis haedo tomorrow you will be presented with a kid cui frons turgida cornibus for whom his forehead swollen with its first horns

primis et uenerem et proelia destinat. Marks for him love and battles. frustra: nam gelidos inficiet tibi but in vain: for he will stain for you your cool streams rubro sanguine riuos with his red blood lasciui suboles gregis offspring of the playful flocks

te flagrantis atrox hora Caniculae The cruel hour of the flaming Dog Star nescit tangere, tu frigus amabile Does not know how to touch you who offer your welcome coolness fessis uomere tauris To bulls tired from the yolk praebes et pecori uago and to the wandering flocks

Fies nobilium tu quoque fontium You too will become one of the famous springs me dicente cauis impositam ilicem because of my words about the holm-oak planted on the hollowed out saxis, unde loquaces rocks, whence your babbling lymphae desiliunt tuae waters tumble down

Removal of "Discussion of the Poem"

I intend to remove the uninspired "discussion" section, long identified as

original research. I will add sections on the location of the spring and critical reception of the poem in time. Camenae (talk) 01:08, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply

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Requested move 7 May 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) ~SS49~ {talk} 12:59, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spring of Bandusia → Spring of Bandusium – This is a procedural nomination on behalf of a new editor. They made a potentially controversial move, which I reverted, which started discussion on my talk page (transcluded below). I have no personal stake in this, but acting in an administrative capacity I figured I'd do the "legwork" for the somewhat-convoluted process of starting an RM. Primefac (talk) 13:30, 7 May 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. OhKayeSierra (talk) 11:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply

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Transcluded discussion

Hello, please explain why you think this violates the name convention. I believe that this name is appropriate in this situation at times more than what is available now, in addition, I have cited sources. If you have no more reasons to create a dispute, then I do a rollback of the article. Bandusium (talk) 17:11, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Please provide reliable sources that definitively state that's the correct name, Bandusium. Praxidicae (talk) 17:15, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A Google Search, as well as the references currently in the article, indicate a strong preference to use

move discussion. Primefac (talk) 17:24, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply

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Without problems. I hope that we can come to a compromise with you at least in the situation with the article Spring of Bandusium. The spelling of Bandusium, rather than Bandusia, depends primarily on the translation of Horace's ode. In many sources there is a reference to it Bandusium. For example:

https://books.google.nl/books?id=23sWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA72&lpg=PA72&dq=ad+fontem+bandusium&source=bl&ots=Q9QcDblGRu&sig=ACfU3U2oX19Uuai5g6Yrgr3Mo8OPiuMRwQ&hl=ru&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=fontem%20bandusium&f=false

https://books.google.nl/books?id=k-E9AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=ad+fontem+bandusium&source=bl&ots=BOSFsbF2tY&sig=ACfU3U0oosVj0LSjupdVCtc8DuInnVKhBQ&hl=ru&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=fontem%20bandusium&f=false

https://books.google.nl/books?id=HdDDH0JLcScC&pg=PA188&lpg=PA188&dq=bandusium&source=bl&ots=cZw0mvq-YE&sig=ACfU3U1ryHV5d7sZVtGKS89tdK7FRlmIHQ&hl=ru&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=bandusium&f=false

And other examples. Also, you should understand that even in some old dictionaries of the Russian language, there is a mention of this spring exactly as Bandusium: https://books.google.nl/books?id=LDKOBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq=bandusium&source=bl&ots=vH5W8P7xYq&sig=ACfU3U03-uJoB0mkVD2vror9ES7Yt2NWig&hl=ru&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=bandusium&f=false

in the German dictionary also has a reference to it Bandusium, not Bandusia: https://books.google.nl/books?id=NvYRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA153&lpg=PA153&dq=bandusium&source=bl&ots=eVIIMngQgt&sig=ACfU3U19IoOvgHQxGEckPlMcQ9xFv2eL7w&hl=ru&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=bandusium&f=false

Also be sure to mention the British author Thomas Love Peacock, who in his book Crotchet Castle refers to this spring as Bandusium: https://books.google.nl/books?id=V_BuDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT989&lpg=PT989&dq=bandusium+thomas+peacock&source=bl&ots=cj51CKD5SM&sig=ACfU3U1DlXPWrUQpotmL1EF4dlKNDkdI2w&hl=ru&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=bandusium%20thomas%20peacock&f=false

Thank you in advance for your answer, I hope that you will agree with me, because all these are weighty arguments Bandusium (talk) 17:43, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Funny. The links in the article are not fully filled in, maybe that's why there are more mentions of another name? At least, I have given the most weighty arguments above, especially those that were indicated in the article initially, which I referred to. Bandusium (talk) 17:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the note. I have started a move request at

Talk:Spring of Bandusia. Primefac (talk) 13:31, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply

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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.