Talk:Types of nationalism

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I removed this info because it was badly worded and formatted, and it was placed in the "See also" section. "International nationalism" might possibly be a valid type of nationalism to discuss in this article, so I wouldn't mind someone re-adding it with proper wording/sourcing/formatting/etc. --1990'sguy (talk) 15:36, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nationalism : Nationalism is the wish of people, that all people return to their nation ... the home of the nation ... nation from natio = volk in german ... "heim ins reich" ... rückkehr nach zion ...

Zionism : Zionism is the wish of the people, that all jewish people return to the mount zion, the home of the jewish nation .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:FA:5F05:8700:256D:CC6A:110B:512F (talk) 03:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This introduction needs some significant work in my opinion. It contiains only two paras, the second of which rests entirely on an assertion that sub-classification is false. No citation for which has been provided, having perversely stated in the first para that many academics have discussed different types of nationalism. This is against the very spirit of Wikipedia not to post original research or POV material. In my opinion the second para is so perverse it should be deleted without further ado. I expected to see one or perhaps two paras talking about the context of academic study of natonalism and its relationship to sociological and ethnographic research! If I have a couple of hours free I will do a literature review and post. Artowalos (talk) 09:34, 31 May 2022 (UTC)Artowalos[reply]

(Central Nationalism) is the idea that both sides can come together to create a union of resolution as one party in unison to create a middle ground with both left and right ideology to a certain extent, believers believe that in society man is valued on how his beliefs are differed from other fellow man either swaying left or right is the same as saying blue is better because we see the color more often then yellow, each individuals beliefs are as valuable and reasonable to a certain extent of there own, one is not valued more then the other in that case, unfortunately this is not the case in modern society, in places around America and even the world you are viewed as either a hero or villain base on these beliefs. This way of life we live in is a byproduct of opinion swaying media and propaganda shoving fear and resent for one anothers views on life. If we as man listen to one another's side -to an extent- we can come to resolution that involves both sides ideologies and believes in one form of action, this is where central nationalism comes into play, bringing the best of both views of the political spectrum into bringing resolution to both sides issues and worries into one joint effort to rise a better society, this can be achieved on limiting the amount of opinions and narratives rather then fact that are representing societies issues within private and state media, this separates the both sides of left and right from one another, an example of central nationalism would be rather then disagreeing with matters such as abortion and gun rights we could both come to a resolution to allow both ideas to come into play allowing both abortion and gun rights, thus solve two simple yet difficult subjects that are in play in society . Wisemakerofbeliefs (talk) 05:40, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a complete mess. It appears to largely be a hangover from the days WP didn't put so much emphasis on sourcing and wasn't as stringent about original research.

In my opinion, this article should only really exist (if at all) to condense summaries on the respective "types of nationalism" contained within the Template:Nationalism_sidebar, and those summaries need to be based on the respective articles for each type. I've tried to start this process by editing the ethnic and civic sections accordingly.

But we are, of course, bogged down by the further complication that scholars don't always use these types consistently. For instance, is state-affirming nationalism a "type" ? But then expansionist nationalism is ? Is bourgeois nationalism a "type" of nationalism, or more of an analytical category used in Marxist historiography ? Civic and ethnic are the two most commonly cited "types", so it makes sense they should lead the article, but to what extent do we include all those on the sidebar ? Yr Enw (talk) 07:32, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]