Talk:Ukraine–NATO relations

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Russia is not a member of NATO, not going to be a member and it is not intending to join military or any other alliances with Ukraine. But Russia is mentioned 6 times in this article.

I propose to move all Russian concerns from this article into "Russia-NATO relationships". --DmitriyR (talk) 02:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russia may target its missiles at Ukraine if its neighbour joins NATO and accepts the deployment of a US missile defence shield.[24]

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin allegedly declared at a NATO-Russia summit in 2008 that if Ukraine would join NATO his country can contend to annex the Ukrainian East and Crimea[10]

This sort of info should be in this article, unless you consider these statements normal... —

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Every single independent poll, whether it's Ukrainian, American or Russian, shows the same figures low figures of about 17-22% in support of joining NATO. Yet the Ukrainian government keeps reporting completely different results, saying there's apparently much more support. They claimed that according to a Razumkov center poll, support was at 30%. Yet when we go to Razumkov's website, it shows support is half that. What a joke, do they think people are that dumb? Please stop inserting this ridiculous propaganda into the article, unless it's to show the huge contrast between government figures and every other independent source. LokiiT (talk) 09:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not anymore. After 2017 things changed in a huge way.104.169.24.168 (talk) 22:15, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Ukraine–NATO relations's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

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There could be an error: "that in contacts with Moscow" instead than "unlike Moscow" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomas-topway-it (talk • contribs) 13:31, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The link about the Russian military invasion of 2014 relates to the ongoing military invasion (2022) and not the one from 2014. 109.252.171.114 (talk) 23:46, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: Which link are you referring to specifically? Could you provide a snippet of the relevant text? The article is quite stuffed with links and so I cannot reasonably parse out what may be the perceived error. Cheers! —Sirdog (talk) 09:44, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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On Request of guarantees of Ukraine's non-accession to NATO The anchor tag href uses Cyrillic, Instead of Alphabet, hence resulting in 404, thus showing "The article that you're looking for doesn't exist."

Please change to "FILE/" instead of "Файл" NutShards (talk) 11:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. I don't see Файл anywhere in either the wikitext source, or the actual HTML source. All links seem to be working fine. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:03, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, did you talk about the picture contained in the section? Could you please if it is working now? P1221 (talk) 12:11, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am referring to image, and I checked it and it is now working as intended, Sorry for not giving out clear info on the error NutShards (talk) 10:52, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1]. --Lyrono (talk) 07:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone with editing rights may it be changed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/applying-join-nato-would-destabilize-security-situation-swedish-pm-says-2022-03-08/

About 51 % wish now to join nato. One of the candidates to elections, promised he would join nato, however currently ruling officials refuse so far, admission — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E34:EC12:36C0:813B:18CC:E1B9:501 (talk) 15:24, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The CGTN source is the only one which counts the deputies for and against the motion in State Duma. If a more reliable source can be found use it. In the meantime, this doesn't seem like falsified information, therefore the blanket CGTN ban makes no sense here. Armduino (talk) 09:52, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that the article text for which you used CGTN as source was for the statement that the Duma asked Putin to recognize the breakaway territories. This article fact was widely reported in reliable sources, and in fact had such a source (Radio Free Europe) right next to the CGTN ref. There was no need to use the CGTN source. Only in your most recent edit re-installing the CGTN source did you add a statement about the vote counts in the Duma on the issue; this data was not so widely reported and the RFE source didn't give it, unlike (I presume) the CGTN article. Still, that data was reported by some reliable sources (I found an acceptable one in the second set of 20 search results from Google), and even the questionable but not deprecated source Tass was a top result for the data.

After you added the Duma vote data to the article (of some slight interest, I suppose), Amigao once again removed the CGTN reference and added a {{cn}} in its place. I will presently replace the {cn} with the source I found (Fortune) which gives that Duma vote.

Basically there is no need to rely on the deprecated source CGTN, and like all deprecated sources, it should be avoided. --R. S. Shaw (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

THe map under this section appears to use the wrong colors for Finland and Sweden. It uses a color lighter than those of NATO member countries, but darker than countries in the process of accession, despite being in the process of accession. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:06, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

in the chapter "History of Relations" following statement is made:

"On 6 April 2004, the Verkhovna Rada adopted a law on the free access of NATO forces to the territory of Ukraine."

This is a rather broad statement which seems to suggest that NATO troops were allowed to freely enter Ukraine territory. This seems unlikely, and neither is any source given in the article, nor was I able to find more information on this in an extensive online search.

I suggest that either more details and sources should be added to this paragraph, or otherwise it should be deleted. Rabbit without ears (talk) 16:18, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"In July 2002 he said, "NATO will give Ukraine security. Ukraine will make the alliance stronger".--Please check if "2002" is a typo. Thanks. 2001:2020:343:AEED:C55C:3EB3:4D56:B687 (talk) 09:53, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks, Prolog (talk) 15:36, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could somebody update the map in the top left of the article of NATO and Ukraine by coloring Sweden as a NATO member please? Thank you. Feel free to delete my message when it's done. Wikidoge04 (talk) 18:55, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please, make Sweden green on the first main round map at this page (on the globe) 107.171.238.228 (talk) 22:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done That is impossible to do. Untamed1910 (talk) 23:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]