Talk:William Genovese

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He does have a bit over 500 Google hits, but is he really worth an article? Rory096 03:48, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Script kiddie? He discovered his own exploits and wrote his own tools. -P3on 16:51, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, he didn't discover anything. He couldn't write a basic buffer overflow to save his life. Just another trojan/script kid. Definitely not worth an article imo. -S 23:50, 11 June 2006

You guys even look at his site? He is definitley not a Script kiddie --HockeyInJune 01:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is argued that he is a script kiddie, however the definition of a script kiddie is a derogatory term used for someone who uses the tools of others. As the most vocal leader of a group known as illmob, who has also written a number of security related tools he has demonstrated knowledge in both high-level programming and low-level assembly. Referance http://www.illmob.org/files.html Illmob Files for a list of tools written by illwill and illmob members. Regardless of skill level, he is worthy of a wikipedia entry simply for being notable within the hacker community, particularily among blackhats. Sirukin

A script kiddie more than simply one who "uses the tools of others". Everyone uses the tools of others, its nearly impossible not to. Even if someone writes software, are they not using lower level code and programming interfaces developed by others? More importantly, a script kiddie is unskilled. The term is considered derogatory because people do not enjoy being labeled as such, whether it is fact or not. The tools "illwill" has written are basic and unsophisticated in nature (i.e. win32 remote administration trojan [sub7/netbus type] related applications, usermode keyloggers, fake login boxes). These are tools are mostly used by unskilled script kiddies. Just because he develops these tools rather than only using them does not indicate that he is beyond script kiddie level. But perhaps it indicates that he is not advanced enough to develop more sophisticated software. Nevertheless, he develops and uses script kiddie software and should be classified as such. This is the bottom line.

EXAMPLES

Small sample of script kiddie software coded by "illwill"

icq2k3: by: illwill - 1.7kb - icq notifier will notify you of the victims ip everytime they come online,even if the user is on dialup and changes ip numbers!!!,also adds itself to the registry to start with windows.Use to bind with any trojan or as a notify itself, works on 9x/nt/me/2k

aol fake logon: by: illwill - 25kb -vb proggie to fake the aol user into re-entering their password by showing a fake logon screen.

Shut it down loader: by: illwill - 3.5kb - smallest webdler that kills firewalls/antivirus before downloading the much larger trojan .. then stay resident on the machine to kill any restart of avs/firewalls every 5 seconds.. kills over 280 fw's/av's

halflife jacker: by: illwill - 1.26kb - steals victims half life cdkey from their registry and sends it to your icq number

drive-em-nutz: by: illwill - 962 bytes!! - i was bored one day and decided to code a program that repeatedly opens and closes the cd-rom

Other relevant files available on the site:

sub7 legends

SD bot

assassin: one of the fist trojans to feature lan technology using the server to connect to the client that way the outbound connection will be able to be used on a lan

mini oblivion: coded in c by stan this uploader trojan also features a file manager d upload/download anything. real reliable

fake aim: this will pop up a fake aim signon screen to trick the user into inputting there user/pw and saves it to a text file

virusgenerator: from [k] lets you create a vbs script virus .. helps you learn vbs script and how to make your own worms

His coding history speaks for itself.

70.143.36.245 06:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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