Template:Did you know nominations/Young Girls (painting)

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The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 00:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Young Girls (painting)

Young Girls

• ... that in 1933 two young girls (pictured) were image of the year in Paris? Source: [1]
  • Reviewed: Al-Rantisi Hospital

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 08:58, 12 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Young Girls (painting); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• WP:DYKTAG, the "Legacy" section of the articleis too short and should be expanded or merged into another section. Also, the article needs to be checked for grammar. I did a quick readthrough of the article and noticed a lot of missing commas. Speaking of commas, in the hook itself, a comma is needed after "1933" and not needed after "two young girls". The second half of the hook is also missing "the". The article mentions the subject was the "picture of the year", not "image of the year" (which should be in quotes inside the hook). It should also be noted who recognized it as the "picture of the year". My suggestion: " ... that in 1933, two young girls (pictured) were the "picture of the year" at the Paris Salon?" –Dream out loud (talk
  ) 08:55, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you... maybe I am not the right person to create Sher-Gil paintings. I will re-look. The hook is is not right. Newspapers of 1933 do not mention it. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:26, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Who will if you don't? Just learn from the feedback, gradually improve your technique, and keep at it. (I will try to have a look later) Philafrenzy (talk) 19:25, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

@Philafrenzy:...Need help with technique please. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:51, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Great work, exactly what was required. The facts, biographical and otherwise, are essential, but it is the critical commentary that lifts an article about a creative work above a banal recitation of those facts. Indeed, where notability is in doubt (it wasn't here) it is that critical commentary that proves notability. I should know, but I am not certain of the status of the announcement of the picture or pictures of the year at the salon. Our article on it and its derivatives is surprisingly short. In any case it seems to be an award of the jury and here is a link to a 1941 report that states explicitly that the painting received that honour. Philafrenzy (talk) 00:23, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that critics have seen Amrita Sher-Gil's painting Young Girls (pictured) as reflecting her split identity? Philafrenzy (talk) 00:32, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

• @Dream out loud: Does the above satisfy your concerns? Z1720 (talk) 18:59, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

It's not very clear what "split identity" means. It sounds like it's referring to her dissociative identity disorder or something else related to her mental health, but I see from reading the article that it has to do with Sher-Gil's ethnic and gender identity. I'm not sure "split identity" is the correct phrase and it's not used in the article. The article uses the phrase "divided identity", but I'm not sure that's appropriate either. –Dream out loud (talk) 07:27, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that Amrita Sher-Gil's Young Girls (pictured) earned her the Paris Salon's gold medal in 1933, making her the first Asian to be awarded it?[2]

Have added alt2. The "split" appears common to many of her portraits. Whispyhistory (talk) 09:28, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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) 22:39, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but this is getting stale and the reviewer hasn’t been on WP in a week. It’s time to close this. Schwede66 19:48, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @

P-Makoto: for the thorough review. I will re-read through with your suggestions. Whispyhistory (talk

) 04:21, 21 January 2024 (UTC)