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Melgiri Pandit
This article is heavily edited by an IP hopper who besides any pov issues doesn't understand or agree with
- Watchlisted. Coincidentally, I said this a few hours back with regards to Shivaji/Maratha related articles :) Abecedare (talk) 10:07, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
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This has gotta be the most brilliantly written article I have read on wikipedia. See the version I started with and note:
- the "Ethnicity" in the infobox and the cited sources;
- take a look at the two maps below the infobox; read and admire their captions.
- see how sentence "...a legal member (nyayadhisha) and a member for religious matters (pandit rao) completed the council." from EB has been transformed into
As the Empire's chief religious councilor, the role of Panditrao most closely resembled that of the Egyptian Theban High Priests of Amun, the High Priest of Israel prior to the destruction of the Second Temple (Kohen Gadol), and the Papacy of the Holy Roman Empire (Vicarius Iesu Christi). According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, the religious ministry of the Panditrao should be distinguished from the secular ministry of the Nyayadhish (Chief Justice), which resolved the Empire's civil and criminal matters.
- and, then for the pièce-de-résistance take a gander down to the Legacy section. While reading it, keep in mind that the subject died in 1686.
And I am sure I have missed many such gems, which you are free to discover and claim. Abecedare (talk) 11:51, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- You mean he wasn't really responsible for the Boston Tea Party? Who knew? Anyway, thanks very much for your work there. talk) 11:55, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- I hadn't checked, but until the new account came along a couple of days ago, virtually all of the article was written by the same editor under 125 and 222 IP addresses editing from Chongqing. The first version before the IP is [1] dated January 4, 2012. This diff[2] shows the difference between the pre-IP edit and today's version after you edited it. talk) 12:34, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- I hadn't checked, but until the new account came along a couple of days ago, virtually all of the article was written by the same editor under 125 and 222 IP addresses editing from Chongqing. The first version before the IP is [1] dated January 4, 2012. This diff[2] shows the difference between the pre-IP edit and today's version after you edited it.
Page for Shiva
Thinking to make a page of Shiva, where i will present his all or most popular names, like there's list of Krishna's names, there should be Shiva's too. Then the notable similarities or spread of Shiva worship in different countries whether in Asia or outside, different forms, as per academics/scholars, then the current details of his popularity, festivals, cultural(movies, novels), etc.
But thinking, what would be a good title for such page? "Legacy of Shiva"? Or "Historicity of Shiva" like this page? Let me know your view. Bladesmulti (talk) 12:17, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- I have never come across any claims that Shiva was a "historic figure" (in the sense of being a real-live individual human who walked the earth), so the last one is not an option. How about simply List of names of Shiva ? It may be better to start it off in userspace. That way you don't have to worry about someone proposing deletion or merger immediately after creation. (I assume you have checked that such an article does not already exists). Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 12:26, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- Will make 2 pages then. One List of names of Shiva, and other would be with different title covering rest of the information that i mentioned above. Good idea. Bladesmulti (talk) 12:45, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- Have a look List of titles and names of Shiva. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:43, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- You should add a source for the information, but otherwise the article looks good. Nice work! Abecedare (talk) 23:22, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks! Yes, gonna bring many more sources. Bladesmulti (talk) 01:28, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
- Have a look
- Will make 2 pages then. One List of names of Shiva, and other would be with different title covering rest of the information that i mentioned above. Good idea. Bladesmulti (talk) 12:45, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Chongqing IP
Gave him a 3RR warning, you're the only one of us not at 2RR, I told Fowler & Fowler I'm loathe to go to 3 right now but might later if no one else reverts the IP. If this person continues to edit war we can ask for semi-protection.
Precious
Hindu iconography
Thank you, returned user, for starting here with quality contributions to Hinduism, for articles such as Hindu iconography and The Jaguar Smile, for keeping articles "clean", for daring to love the trolls, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
Indeed
Thanks! I think you should consider these :- 2 edit. 1. Harrappan civilization is (2600 BC - 1900 BC).. Should be corrected. 2. Line "earliest evidence for prehistoric religion in India that may have left its traces in Hinduism", the word "may" should be removed, because the last line of the same section already talks about remaining disputes(linked with deities). Bladesmulti (talk) 06:40, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Did I get the dates wrong? It is possible since Harappan culture, with and without "Mature", can refer to different time segments in history and sometimes the terms are used loosely. I'll recheck the source.
- I think the may is needed in the first sentence, otherwise we will be making contradictory statements at the beginning and at the end of the paragraph. More generally: The many mays, probably's etc in that section are needed to reflect the extent to which the conclusions are tentative or disputed but I'll review it once more to see if the section can be made to read smoother without being inaccurate.
- Abecedare (talk) 11:52, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Follow up: The source (see last paragraph on page 153) does say "Mature Harappan" specifically (which is typically dated to the 2600-1900BCE period). Also note that the Pashupati Seal and other relevant artifacts are from Mohenjo-daro, which dates to the same Mature period. So the dates seem correct to me. Abecedare (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Finally realized what you meant: corrected. Abecedare (talk) 12:15, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, you may need to re-write it a bit, "probably", "possibly" can be used too. Bladesmulti (talk) 12:18, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Finally realized what you meant: corrected. Abecedare (talk) 12:15, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
- Follow up: The source (see last paragraph on page 153) does say "
Hi Abecedare. Do you know the sfn reference tags? It's even shorter than harvcolmb. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:04, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
- Yup, I have been using it more recently, at least for the more developed article with a separate notes and reference sections. At ) 13:46, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Appreciation
I appreciated your reasoning in your support of the Cerebellum RFA, where you said his willingness to listen was more than whether you both agree on a particular policy. Nicely done. ● Thane — formerly Guðsþegn 18:17, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Rani Sati
nominate ) 00:03, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
2 thingsNot only about the dating, but also the influence one, what was wrong about it? I removed the leading line of the section "influence" because it was written like essay, and not really needed either. Plus 2 sources were added for the information. About dating, more sources:- http://books.google.com/books?id=39tW7k_0MI4C&pg=PA16&dq=5114+BCE+rama&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1R11UseDAoizrgfQ9oDgBQ&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA http://books.google.com/books?id=ROePWIBgyv8C&pg=PA122&dq=5114+BCE+rama&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1R11UseDAoizrgfQ9oDgBQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAg Bladesmulti (talk) 15:45, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Subhas BoseI don't know what Xjt***** did on Bose, but even after your revert, is shows death date unknown. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:08, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
A user has deleted the majority of the content of the article talk ) 09:03, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
LucknowFollowing on from Chaubey Mukta Prasad at WT:INB and AfD, take a look at Makers of Modern Lucknow, which looks like another coatrack job saying a lot about not a lot. I've removed the truly egregious unlinked stuff but, really, should this even be a separate article from Lucknow? The creator is as per the Prasad article. - Sitush (talk) 18:05, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
ThanksThanks for the welcome :). But honestly speaking, I am just passing by. Life has become really busy these days. Hopefully will resume more active editing sometime soon. Cheers — Ramit(talk) 17:33, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
BhagwanjiAppreciate if you could have a look at this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bhagwanji#Debate_in_high_court. -- talk ) 19:24, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Monarch in mahabharatPlease don't consider mahabharat story as myth.. it reveals history of ancient India,its geography, sociology and politics and those monarchy & kingdoms are not just myths of book but may be the real one.. witnessed in every part of nation.. Just removing history on the name of religion doesn't suits u n wiki.. book is just a source of information.. but are the one giving it a communal view — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parik92 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Ärsha Vidya Sannyasi Disciples
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Jainism in VedasHad asked for your opinion in Talk:Vedas before, maybe you didn't had it's attention then. So yes, Jainism section should be removed from Vedas, as they are not officially associated with Vedas anyway, just like Islam. Bladesmulti (talk) 11:31, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi there! Could you and @RegentsPark:, please, pretty please, take a look at User_talk:Coffee#Emilie_Schenkl. I'm stressed trying to put out too many fires. My tone there is no reflection on your merge note, but I was surprised that it wasn't advertised on the Bose article or on WT:INDIA. You guys know the rules better. Could you please take care of it. I'm tired and need to take a nap! Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Dwaipayan. I have a feeling, though, that Anita Pfaff's article might have been written in German; I can't be sure though. Abedecare, how do you mean novelistic? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Can we positively state that they were married as the Emilie article does? Likely seems more appropriate (unless Hayes has uncovered a marriage certificate?). --regentspark (comment) 15:11, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Karna articleHey Abecedare. You are probably familiar with the issues going on with the Karna article involving the article length. The thing is, and this is knowing that you seem to believe that the article should be shorter, I am having a hard time communicating with Dharmadhyaksha. While I have been, in my edits, trying to incorporate his viewpoints, he's been simply reverting all my edits to his preferred form, and in the process, violating several Wikipedia guidelines. Moreover, he's engaged in personal attacks and has basically said that he does not want to discuss these issues. With that, I think the proper thing to do is simply revert his edits. If he isn't willing to discuss the merits of his edits, I don't think they should be kept. I don't want to get into an edit war. I'd be happy to discuss issues involving the length of the article with you or others, and I already can see ways to reduce the length. What do you think? Pinkfloyd11 (talk) 21:33, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
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Dear Abecedare, I hope you are well. I have written a book, Yoga Philosophy and Practice. I wondered whether you would like to comment on the book, if you give me your email, I will send it to you. With best wishes Shyam Mehta (talk) 09:21, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
VarmaAm I on the wrong track here? I find it difficult to believe that it would not be a controversial move. - Sitush (talk) 22:32, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Contemporary Indian (and other) politics articles are a pain because with the plethora of "news" sources available, motivated editors can find backing for almost any claim. At least when dealing with other POV magnets (history, religion etc) we can demand academic sources. I don't know enough about India Against Corruption to be able to tell whether the claims made by AcorruptionfreeIndia (who certainly is wrong about wikipedia policies), nevertheless happen to be true. Can't regular editors at AAP etc weigh in? Abecedare (talk) 16:11, 24 November 2013 (UTC) GitaI will reply here like always. This book :- http://books.google.com/books?id=RwP--c7OV4cC is reliable? It reads that Einstein read the Gita, regularly. Bladesmulti (talk) 16:12, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Holiday cheer
ManjiraIn reply to your email: Apparently back in Nov 2006, I created Manjeera, which was not only an unsourced stub with external links possibly violating bite new editors.Anyway, it does seem (even from my Nov 2006 article text) that Manjira = Taal (instrument), so a merge would be appropriate. Since I haven't looked at sources yet, do you know offhand if Taal would be the most common name for the instrument? Abecedare (talk ) 18:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
@Dharmadhyaksha: I hadn't seen the VPT discussion (will read it later today; in a bit of a rush at the moment). In any case, if you could do the merger, that would be most welcome. Else, I'll take on the task in the next day or so. About Karna: See my edits to the page,talk page. Also left a message at Pinkfloyds talk page. Hopefully won't have take this up to ANI and get him blocked etc. Secondly, the two PhD theses I listed on the article talk page are available for download (legally) online! Just google, or I'll add links in a few hours. I don't think we need to rely much on the "original research" part of the theses for our article, but their literature survey and summary sections should be useful sources, and they may even suggest how the article can be organized and potential sections. Abecedare (talk) 13:15, 25 November 2013 (UTC) Advice on BLP issues.Hi! I'm in need of some regarding WP:BLPN#Tarun Tejpal and I'm not quite sure how to proceed. It's regarding these three related articles: Tarun Tejpal, Shoma Chaudhury and Tehelka —which I've been doing some major expansion and that's how I've got involved in this.
If you have time, could you check whether the controversy's mention in all of three is fine? These past days, I'm in two minds, whether to expand it because of it's almost global coverage or decrease it on account of WP:BLPCRIME. Moreover, two of these articles protection are about to expire and I'm not quite sure how tackle over enthusiastic IPs interested in adding all the possible details. Please help/advise. Sincerely, Ugog Nizdast (talk ) 17:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Death of Subhas Chandra BosePlease help. I added some information (The Mystery) with reliable published source backing. But other editors just don't allow to keep those information there. Alternate theories about Bose's death is not a minority view that can be discarded. I am afraid, effectively others are not presenting a balanced view. -- Xrie (talk) 07:41, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
See [7] - historical or mythological? The article doesn't seem clear on this. talk ) 19:28, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
DiffHi Abecedare. I've provided a diff at Talk:Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan#Lead of where the tone changed from neutral to slightly overheated. I was expecting that this change was made by this specific editor. The editor in question, Langdell, is still active, as far as I can see, as an IP: 81.106.127.14. Before he seems to have edited using 81.107.150.246, 81.109.10.218 and 81.109.11.33. All IP's are in Brighton, England. All have the same range of topics; all IP's, and Langdell have the same attitude; see Talk:Dharma/Archive 1#Can you help?, Talk:Spirituality/Archive 1#Requesting third opinions on lead and definition and Talk:Zen/Archive 4#sources. As 81.109.11.33 he was suspected of being Langdell in 2008. diff. I've posted an SPI, but they find it "impossible to be sure". Nevertheless, given the discussion we're having, and the tone and style of editing of this person, it seems relevant to me to inform you. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:00, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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Bose talk pageI sincerely apologise to you if you mistook my generalisation of foreign sources being used to cite things on Wikipedia. As I wrote in the Talk page, I have seen in the talk pages of many articles that some editors insist on using only foreign sources (read books by US or European authors). Hope you do not take it targeted. And it wasn't diversionary too. Sorry again. -- Xrie (talk) 10:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Aravan's mention in MahabharataAs mentioned in the reference provided the content was appended then why it has to be deleted?
If reference is provided then the edit should be included. We don't see any reason to the line to be excluded. The following is the text:
You are back?Hey Abecedare... You had went off for a while? Bladesmulti (talk) 15:48, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
Hinduism has been notable for influencing religions, such as , and others.Influence is also notable among the sects of Islam, such as arts, etc, in this regard, Jean Sylvain Bailly said that :-
Ella Wheeler Wilcox acknowledge that the Hindu texts remains influential for many aspects, she writes:-
-Something like that? Bladesmulti (talk) 03:15, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
SwastikaI didn't added "originated from Hinduism", only added sources when one user asked for the citation today. The most obvious knowledge is, that Swastika is 2 most popular uses, one, in Hinduism, 2nd, it was by NAZI. It's commonly regarded that swastika originated from Hinduism, as per it's mention in Vedas. Bladesmulti (talk) 08:36, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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Consider this as a gift, I really appreciate your participation in most of the discussions I've watched. You deserve this. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:30, 25 September 2014 (UTC) |
message, no need to reply, delete asap
Hi, I appreciate your correcting me and I agree the whole section of Yukteswar's heretic theory of the Yuga needs to be rewritten. I am relatively new to Wikipedia, but I'm quickly learning that it can't be quoted or trusted because its policies completely fall apart when it comes to religion, spirituality, and articles on noumenal subjects that have no scientific proof. After reading the terribly written "Mantra" and "Meditation" articles I've pretty much lost interest in Wankipedia and can't even be bothered trying anymore. And with my latest edit being quickly reverted (wtf is your definition of heretic?) it just feels like wasting time and effort, going around in circles and ending up with Wankipedia's western scientific atheistic bias. It suffers the same problem as democracy having leaders elected by the plebs... the blind leading the blind.
I'm so over wikipedia and I'm outa here. It's been. Samsbanned (talk) 00:59, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- If you decide to come back, we can discuss some of pints you raise above, and more importantly, productive avenues for contributing to wikipdia articles you are interested in. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 02:17, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Conflict of interest: GCE/Satyarthi
Apologies - my first insertion was just a test - I haven't added anything on Wikipedia in ages so sorry it looked like I was just doing some promo! I added more with a proper reference after this, which I think you've now seen, and I am putting together text for our page (which I'll send to an editor for checking!).
Essentially, we're trying to help fill out Kailash's profile so there is more information on his work on public sources due to the light thrown on him today because of the Nobel prize. I'd like to add this post but not sure if I'd be allowed to?
During his time as GCE President millions of public engaged in global campaigns for youth and adult literacy, girls’ education, access to quality education and the increase of trained teachers among others during its Global Action Week.[2][3][4] In 2010, Kailash led GCE during its successful 1GOAL: Education For All campaign, which saw 19 million people worldwide lobby for increased financing and access to quality education, culminating in the announcement of AUS$ 5 billion by the Australian Government at the 1GOAL closing event during the 2010 UN General Assembly, hosted by Kailash on behalf of GCE.[5]
Is this okay? Thanks for your help! SherryGCE (talk) 17:45, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Two quick notes:
- It would be best to propose additions to the Kailash Satyarthi article at the related talk-page, which you can find at Talk:Kailash Satyarthi. That way, any and all interested editors can weigh in on the suitability of the content.
- I have created a new article on notable enough to have a wikipedia article of its own. As of present, it is just a two-line placeholder, but hopefully it will grow in the coming days, weeks, ... Since you are associated with the organization, it would be best if you didn't edit the page yourself, but instead proposed additions/corrections on the article talk page that is located at Talk:Global Campaign for Education. As you surely appreciate, the wikipedia article is not meant to duplicate content from GCE's own website or promote the organization or its cause (noble, as it may be) but ideally should be based on what other reliable and neutral sources have said about GCE.
- Thanks for your cooperation and understanding, and welcome to wikipedia. Abecedare (talk) 18:00, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
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- ^ "Global Campaign for Education sets world record". Retrieved 10 October2014.
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Thanks - will do both now! SherryGCE (talk) 18:47, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Precious again
Hindu iconography
Thank you, returned user, for starting here with quality contributions to
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
A year ago, you were the 635th recipient of my
- Thank you, although yo-yoing user may be a more apt description than "returned". Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 20:51, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Shvetashvatara Upanishad
Thanks for the reply and thanks for the Tip.
I would like to ask you about point 1 in the article though...
It states : 1. The Supreme God is called by various names such as Shiva, Rudra, etc. From this feature one might assume it was a Shaiva Upanishad, but such an assumption would be incorrect because, at the time of this Upanishad, Shaiva Agamas were not there. Also, at that time the Saguna Brahman, (God with attributes), used to be called by different names, each indicating a particular manifestation of Brahman. Just as the names Shiva or Rudra are used to refer to Brahman, names such as Vayu, Aditya or Agni are also used for same purpose in this Upanishad, rather than referring to the demigods of those names. Moreover, if this Upanishad is indeed a Shaiva Upanishad, other sects of Hinduism such as Vaishnavas wouldn't have quoted its verses/mantras as authority in their respective treatises.
1.Where are the references to "facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites" for this statement?. (shouldn't it be removed then?)
2.Don't you think that words such as Demigods are too misleading? Refer to the Wiki article on Agni and you would know what I mean.
3.Isnt the last sentence of that paragraph an assumption or opinion?
Good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Illuminati6 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Illuminati6: See my note here. The discussion can be continued on the article talk page, where others interested in the subject can join in. And, if you have sources that would help expand the article, that would be even better.Abecedare (talk) 15:47, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Hemu
All necessary citations have been given on this page once again. It has become a ritual since last 6 years that somebody overhauls the entire page removing vital information from the page once a year and I have to put citations again and again. The tag at the top needs to be removed now. Please do the needful.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 17:16, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- Sudhir, I looked at the references you added recently and unfortunately they all are either to unreliable sources (eg, the community bio. by Hem Chandra Vikramaditya Dhusar (Bhargava) Trust (Regd)). Frankly the additions should be reverted, but since I am not currently involved with the article I'll ping @Cpt.a.haddock: who was doing some excellent work cleaning the article recently. (I also remembered that I had intended to add specific inline citations to the Early Life section, which I'll do in the next day or so) Abecedare (talk) 17:27, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- If Akbarnama or publications from Hem Chandra's community trust are primary sources, then which reliable sources are you expecting ? I can't expect any other reliable sources on his childhood and early life apart from community publications. Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 01:52, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Sudhir messaged me as well.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 09:55, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Sudhirkbhargava: These "community sources" are neither primary sources nor reliable sources. They should not be used in the article at all.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 09:55, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Controversy about authenticity of Purusha suktam
When Colonial era scholar is mentioned it is in regard to the scholars who were colonialists, not the native scholars of that time. The colonial scholars had an agenda, to rationalize the European colonization and subjugation of India and to convert its natives to Christianity. Chandraputra (talk) 20:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- @) 21:06, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your contributions to Talk:Ayurveda
Greetings Abecedare. Thank you for your contributions to the project. In particular I appreciate your contributions at Talk:Ayurveda. I appreciate your attempt to depolarize a controversy, always helpful in contentious situations. I am particularly impressed at your balanced expression of the variety of opinions and the deft splitting of two intertwined subjects. I hope the input you receive is adequate for you to execute your proposal as an edit. I also appreciate your improvement of the reference and explanation thereof. References are one of my principle activities on WP and accuracy is important to me. BTW I have access to a number of databases through the WP Library, I do research assistance upon request on my talk page. Let me know if there is something I can be of help with. Best wishes and happy editing. - - MrBill3 (talk) 07:35, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message and work finding all the references. I looked up almost all of the works you quoted on the talkpage, and cited some of them in the draft I composed. If I have difficulty accessing any of the citations being discussed, I will surely ask. Thanks for the offer. Abecedare (talk) 07:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Your certainly welcome. My initial research was based on ayurveda and pseudoscience, after posting the above message I used my access to Oxford Bibliographies Online and found a good bibliography entitled, "Indian Medicine". If you are interested in doing more work on the ayurveda article I can send you (a single copy for the purpose of academic research to improve Wikipedia, not to be distributed) either a list of references (I have that in WP ref format) via wikipedia mail or a PDF of the article (would require you providing me with an email that accepts attachments). I would expect you to respect the privacy of my email, from which I would be sending. I would of course do likewise (or you could use a throwaway anonymous email, not my first choice but up to you). I was going to just wikimail you the formatted refs but an acknowledgement that you would use only for improving WP and not distribute before I sent would maintain the terms of WP Library and Oxford. It is a pretty long set of refs, the article provides context that would be useful. I have no special access to any of the refs on the list, but would of course do what I could to help with access. - - MrBill3 (talk) 09:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- @) 11:04, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Why yes, that is the article I was referring to. I see you have some research skills and am again impressed with your thoughtful consideration of the subject of an article. I agree that the article needs substantial improvement. I am more of a source finder than prose writer and I too have limited interest in wading to deep into this particular subject. I hope you are willing to do some work on the article, your prose skills and neutrality would lead to significant improvement. I share your interest in delving into new subjects and hope you edit extensively with great enjoyment. I am going to approach Wujastyk on the off chance he is willing. I fortunately have found when I edit in areas where I have knowledge it isn't too bad, my knowledge base runs in critical care medicine and MEDRS rules pretty tightly in that arena. I meet more people who can teach me something more often than Randy. Best. - - MrBill3 (talk) 09:49, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- There was some discussion about the dating, and 5000 BCE seemed appropriate. It is usually accepted for Ayurveda. During that time, I had searched for other alternative datings, I had also found 6000 BCE to be in common.[10]-[11]-[12] They are referring to Oral tradition and traces, not the established formation, and until 2nd millennium BCE, when Atharvaveda was written. Ayurveda transformed during 1st millennium BCE as well. Bladesmulti (talk) 09:53, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Blades, the 5000BCE-6000 BCE dates are indeed very commonly cited by Ayurvedic practitioners (who of course don't have any specialist knowledge/training in history, but pick up the folk-history of Ayurveda in med-school), and by casual secondary sources, including ones published by Government of India. But those plucked-from-the-air dates, predating even IVC by 2000 years (!), are laughably off and "oral tradition", which surely existed before the classic texts were laid down ca. 500 BCE, doesn't magically add 4000 years to Ayurveda's antiquity. We may as well claim that the tradition of tending to wounds surely existed right since the emergence of homo sapiens (and even long before!), and so Ayurveda, or any other traditional system of medicine, traces its roots to 60,000... 100,000... 1,000,000 BCE! At some point it becomes meaningless.
- If you are personally interested in learning what genuine scholars on the topic think of the origins and other features of Ayurveda, do look up the citations in the Bibliography MrBill pointed to above. Those are excellent sources! For a easily accessible overview see this, which while not a quality citation on the history of Ayurveda per se gets the basics more-or-less right. Abecedare (talk) 10:51, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- I have read a few of these before, one of them suggested that not only Siddha medicine, but also Himalayan medicine was in use before Ayurveda. Of course they were, but Himalayan medicine is not as popular. Bladesmulti (talk) 11:08, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Why yes, that is the article I was referring to. I see you have some research skills and am again impressed with your thoughtful consideration of the subject of an article. I agree that the article needs substantial improvement. I am more of a source finder than prose writer and I too have limited interest in wading to deep into this particular subject. I hope you are willing to do some work on the article, your prose skills and neutrality would lead to significant improvement. I share your interest in delving into new subjects and hope you edit extensively with great enjoyment. I am going to approach Wujastyk on the off chance he is willing. I fortunately have found when I edit in areas where I have knowledge it isn't too bad, my knowledge base runs in critical care medicine and MEDRS rules pretty tightly in that arena. I meet more people who can teach me something more often than Randy. Best. - - MrBill3 (talk) 09:49, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks For Your Efforts
Abecedare thanks for making the article National Cyber Coordination Centre meaningful. Thanks for your efforts.
120.59.233.131 (talk) 03:49, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Hope you'll keep an eye on the article and update it (with sources) once the agency is formally established etc. Abecedare (talk) 14:35, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Kernel of Vedic truth
@abededare: I saw you deleted some of the citations provided. The citations provided were genuine. Ballad Divine: Bhagavad-Gita, Kernel of Vedic Truth: Bhagavata Purana and Bhakti Sutra are not meant to promote the author. They are all an authentic translations and have no bearing on promotion. If you still feel strong that they are being used for promotions, then there is nothing more to say. Dev Bhattacharyya (talk) 03:53, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
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Please see
Can you have a look at this page List of tourist attractions in Guntur. The page is about a city or a district. List of tourist attractions in Vijayawada is about city, so definitely the above page may be of city. But there is lot of district info. Can you have your opinion on its talk page.--Vin09 (talk) 06:15, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Vin09: I am not familiar enough with the geography of the Guntur city/district to be able to immediately judge which of the listed attractions are in or close to the city boundaries. So the issue may be best discussed on the article talk page with editors more knowledgeable about the subject. In any case, would the scope issue be resolved if the article was renamed List of tourist attractions in Guntur district? If so, that might be an easy way out. Abecedare (talk) 07:23, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
India
Hello Abecedare, replied at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:India#Cuisine_and_Tourism 14.139.229.35 (talk) 22:01, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notice.
- As I said earlier at due weight and covering details in the sub-articles instead of forcing them into the main page, so I don't find "what's the harm" or celebrity-weddings based arguments persuasive. But I'll let other interested editors to weigh in, and will add my comments if I have something new to say. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 02:45, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Taj Mahal
Hi bhai, we can leave the disputed origin of Taj Mahal in there (undo the undo you did of my work) and we can mention that SO FAR THIS IS CONSIDERED FRINGE ... rational for suggesting this is that several independent unconnected authors have raised valid questions/doubts about the origin of the Taj Mahal and it needs to be mentioned to fully inform the reader. Wiki may not be a source of primary research but a lot of people use this as a starting point. Wiki content should represent content based on PROMINENCE but we can not confuse prominence with MAJORITARIAN view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdhillon (talk • contribs) 03:15, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- @WP:FRINGEfor why the approach you suggest is not acceptable on wikipedia.
- Since Oak and Knapp's claims are not taken seriously by any reliable sources in the area, we don't provide them coverage at ) 03:36, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Abecedare: Stephen Knapp sites more sources than just Oak. Not withstanding, people commenting on Oak's credibility on other matters, questions raised by the plethora of people about the disputed origin of the Taj Mahal (Rajput building remodeled as tomb, has many inconsistencies with the facts, none of the non-Islamic muslims scribes mentioned the construction specially the foreign visitors of agra, islamic/mughal scribes themselves mention taking over Rajput buildings for burying mumtaj, design and Islamic architecture of mosque and tomb and so forth) have not been refuted convincingly. Criteria we must apply is if the questions raised are valid and if the questions have been refuted (they have not been) regardless of who raised them (majoritarian (more popular) historians... lets face it history of India/wrld so far has Europe-centric and in case of India is is also islamic-centric (based on islamic scribes who did spin doctoring based on their paymasters)... independent sources are lent less prominence). Valid and rational doubts raised about the Taj's origin that have not be convincingly refuted and addressed, can not be discarded as less prominent based on who raised them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdhillon (talk • contribs) 03:56, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help in finding File:1971 Instrument of Surrender.jpg and for being a productive, solution oriented member of the Wikipedia Community! Myopia123 (talk) 03:33, 22 November 2014 (UTC) |
- @Myopia123: Thanks. I didn't realize that images from the Navy website were released under a free license. Good to see that the discussion ended up improving wikipedia content. Btw, if you haven't already, do read A talent for war's description for the circumstances under which the picture was shot, and how "Flight Lieutenant Krishnamurthy was snapped clutching an outraged Gen Jacob and peering over his left shoulder" at such a solemn occasion.:) Abecedare (talk) 16:45, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
"X was criticised" and {whom} tag
Hello again, hope you don't mind if I ask you for some advice regarding how to deal with such statements.
It occurs regularly when the subject is in the news for some controversy (like say, our politicians) and I'm still wondering what's right to do in such cases. Take the example of
- On wikipedia, such statements can be (and usually are) signs of editorializing, or of POV-pusher trying to sneak in personal, or narrowly held, opinions onto the page. So it is worth checking the sourcing when one comes across such passive constructs. And if the criticism (or praise!) is attributable to an identifiable individual or even group (say, religious leaders, women rights activists etc) the reader is better-off knowing that.
- That said, there is nothing wrong with passive voice per se and it is the correct construct to use when 'what was done' to X is more important than 'by whom'. So, if an opinion is widely held and not restricted to any particular individual, group, or ideology then it is better to use passive voice rather than add meaningless faux-attribution (eg "People", "Critics", "Commentators", "Media and the public" etc).
- In the particular case, Indian Express says, "...condemnation across the political spectrum and from women's bodies..."; The Diplomat says, "Asaram Bapu made headlines when..."; and even my memory of the incident is that the public condemnation was pretty universal and it would be trivial to find dozens of sources using the "drew criticism", "widely criticized" or equivalent language. So I think, in this instance, the addition of the {{whom}} tag was reflexive, and not justified. (Of course this can be discussed on the article talk page, if needed; also pinging @Bladesmulti:
- Note: I have addressed only the issue of passive/active voice and attribution in my reply, and not touched upon issues of due-weight and BLP (since I think you are already well-versed in those policies). Let me know if I misjudged the focus of your question. Abecedare (talk) 17:24, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- No, you've answered it spot-on. So these statements are valid in such special extreme cases, I shall remember that. I too used to add "Critics" a few instances here and there thinking that would solve to attribution problem--I see how meaningless it is now. Thank you very much for this. Sincerely, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:19, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Replied
Hello, I replied here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:India#Devnagri 14.139.229.35 (talk) 12:20, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Yugas another view
Four Yugas is one Kalpa
Yuga also known as Kalpa has different and short timeline. Time is a loop, with one endlessly repeating kalpa (5000 years) i.e. cycles like day and night, waning and waxing moon, and seasons.
It consists of: Heaven: (Day of Brahma)
- Satya Yuga:- Golden Age - 1250 years - 8 births- total population: 0.9 million - Sree Krishna was the first child - Krishna and Lakshmi ruled paradise on earth (Heaven) as Lakhsmi Narayanan - a Garden of Eden - one people, one language, no religion, no sorrow, no conflict.
- Treta Yuga:- Silver Age - 1250 years - 12 births- total population: 330 million - Sree Krishna and Lakhsmi reborn as Sree Raam and Cita - was an age of invention and expansion of peoples and languages, with a slight degradation in perfection.
Hell: (Night of Brahma)
- Dwapar Yuga:- Copper Age - 1250 years - 21 births - an age of the establishment and growth of commerce and religion
- Kali Yuga:- Iron Age - 1250 years - 42 births an age of degradation, decay, and death.
- Confluence Age - the Age which overlaps the end of the Iron Age and beginning of the Golden Age - last 40 to 100 years of Kali Yuga - Birth of Brahma and re-establishment of Satya Yuga - it Started on 1930 - We are in a glorious period were one God aka Shiva, Jehovah and Allah came and teaching us how to purify ourselves to reborn in heaven. It is said that those who believes this and follow the practices of destroying Lust, Anger, Ego, Attachment and Greed will take birth in heaven and others will born again in hell when their time comes in the span of 5000 years. It was almost said in all religion and believed that now we are at the end of an Iron Age and our next births will be in the next cycle, following a short period of Destruction or world transformation.
Reference http://brahmakumaris.info/w/index.php?title=Kalpa
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I need to add this content to Yuga article, previously it was rejected for taking sides and for promotion. I have now made it neutral and added reference link. My intention is not to promote but make people know this point of view on Yugasa. If you are satisfied with content, I'm ready to enhance the article further.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sivze (talk • contribs) 06:17, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hello there! If you would like to request content on an article added or changed, and you are unable to make the changes yourself, the best way to get such changes made is to submit a protected page edit request on the talk page of the article (Talk:Yuga in this case, I believe). Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 13:52, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
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@Abecedare I found a Book, The Story of Immortality: A Return to Self Sovereignty. ISBN: 978-1-886872-51-6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sivze (talk • contribs) 06:45, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
- (Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University, which despite its name is not a university but a new religious movement whose treatment of Yuga differs from mainstream Hinduism, particularly regarding the length of the yugas and the addition of a fifth. Huon (talk) 19:47, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
Article about a book
See Kalki Avtar aur Muhammad sahib (book), and the book is written by a non-notable author. Book is evidently promoting historical revisionism. I had also discussed on the talk(page). Don't you think that the article should be nominated for deletion? Bladesmulti (talk) 15:34, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- Certainly qualifies as a fringe publication, and the current sourcing in the article (essentially this) is too poor to establish notability under ) 16:04, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- Did and there are no mention except a few Islamic websites, see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kalki Avtar aur Muhammad sahib (book). Bladesmulti (talk) 08:45, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Hey there
Thanks for replying on three sections. Can I hope you can deny the rest three as well through the help of confusing wiki guidelines? Indian Stock exchange, Space research and aeronautical engg and Bollywood (adding a pic of bolly not a section). Regarding your saying- it is not a page that will advertise India. Cmeon friend. I have compared it to pages like Estonia and I request you to read what I have written there- "Public holidays in Estonia"- no I think the fact that India is 10 largest stock exchange is much more important. Similarly India being the only nation to reach Mars at first attempt is. So please, be discreet. Mousanonyy (talk) 09:08, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- @WP:NPOV and I don't think repeating my comment in six separate sections will be very useful. As for Bollywood images: If you can find a candidate image (certainly freely licensed, and ideally a featured picture) feel free to make a case on the talk page explaining what it adds to the article. But to preempt multiple sub-par nominations, you should know that proposals of the form "image shows actor X, who is a superstar !!!" are unlikely to get any support for inclusion. Abecedare (talk) 22:44, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Goa
Hi Abecedare,
Goa was invaded and annexed in 1961 and was fully officially surrendered by Portuguese Republic to the Republic of India in 1974/75 UN TREATY OF SOVEREIGNTY (March 14, 1975). 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_annexation_of_Goa 2) http://web.stanford.edu/group/tomzgroup/pmwiki/uploads/1074-1962-03-KS-b-RCW.pdf 3) http://web.stanford.edu/group/tomzgroup/pmwiki/uploads/1074-1962-03-KS-a-RCW.pdf 4) http://www.colaco.net/1/treaty.htm
Thanks for your cooperation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Portugal Editor Exploration (talk • contribs) 14:19, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- @India noticeboard requestinng for some more eyes. Note though, that irrespective of who is right on the content issue, continued edit-warring is liable to get you and Qwerty3594 (talk · contribs) blocked. So stop that immediately and discuss the issue of the article talk page instead. Abecedare (talk) 14:27, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Abecedare: Careful with most India editors as they make GOA wholly INDIANISED and the reality of GOA is MANIPULATED AND MESSED up. Please ask International historians WHO ARE PROFESSORS SUCH AS ME.
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Saints alive!
Is there such a thing as a "Hindu Saint"? I thought saints were restricted to Christianity. Either way, tell me what to do (redirect/delete) and it will be done. Or @Titodutta: can take care of it in a couple of hours :) --regentspark (comment) 19:06, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Least of the problems. :)
- But seriously: there surely are encyclopedic articles that can be written about caste-permiability in Hinduism, but User:Buddhakahika/User:Maleabroad (and their 200+ socks) are mainly interested in poorly-sourced fluff that they can in turn use to fight battles on fringe internet fora with other religious warriors.
- Can you delete the newly created Vaishya Hindu Saints, Hindu warrior and monarch saints ? See also the latest posts at the SPI page for some other deletion candidates. I am assuming that they are speedy candidates as creations by an effectively banned/LTA user and/or as redundant articles/content-forks, and/or... I assume User:Bladesmulti, User:Joshua Jonathan have taken care of the other junk content the socks may have added (although, unfortunately given how prolific the sockmaster is, there is always some residue left <sigh>) Abecedare (talk) 20:15, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- BTW, how about Wikipedia:Requests for Adminship/Abecedare 2? I can write up a quick nom if you're ready.--regentspark (comment) 20:49, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, but not active enough right now to justify it. Do plan to keep editing at least sporadically for now, and hopefully will become more active in few weeks. If that happens, may take you up on the offer! Abecedare (talk) 20:51, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Ok. But it would be a great help if you did decide to get the mop back. Lots of muck lying around! --regentspark (comment) 20:55, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, but not active enough right now to justify it. Do plan to keep editing at least sporadically for now, and hopefully will become more active in few weeks. If that happens, may take you up on the offer! Abecedare (talk) 20:51, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- BTW, how about Wikipedia:Requests for Adminship/Abecedare 2? I can write up a quick nom if you're ready.--regentspark (comment) 20:49, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- I haven't tagged any article yet. But Blades might like to do so; he's got a talent for sock-hunting. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:21, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- and my mind is occupied at the moment with Indo-European migrations; little room left for Buddhakahika. Sorry... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 21:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, Joshua. I noticed that Blades had already reverted the sock's deletions from Hinduism (and possibly other pages), and RP has deleted the problematic creations. I will take a look at Tapasya Dev (talk · contribs) remaining edits during my next editing-session to see if there is anything glaring that still needs to be cleaned up. Abecedare (talk) 21:19, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- ) 23:23, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- I was inactive for >3 years (Aug 21 2010 to Sep 1 2013), and so can regain the bit only through an RFA. Not on my immediate horizon; will consider it only if I find myself editing on a more consistent basis. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 07:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- I thought 2 years. How come you were inactive for this long? You must have thought a little about how 100s or even 1000s of these pages are badly altered. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yup. Sadly he returned just a little too late. But, given the previous RfA, a re-nom will be a no-brainer. --regentspark (comment) 11:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- I thought 2 years. How come you were inactive for this long? You must have thought a little about how 100s or even 1000s of these pages are badly altered. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- I was inactive for >3 years (Aug 21 2010 to Sep 1 2013), and so can regain the bit only through an RFA. Not on my immediate horizon; will consider it only if I find myself editing on a more consistent basis. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 07:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- ) 23:23, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, Joshua. I noticed that Blades had already reverted the sock's deletions from Hinduism (and possibly other pages), and RP has deleted the problematic creations. I will take a look at Tapasya Dev (talk · contribs) remaining edits during my next editing-session to see if there is anything glaring that still needs to be cleaned up. Abecedare (talk) 21:19, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
- and my mind is occupied at the moment with Indo-European migrations; little room left for Buddhakahika. Sorry... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 21:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
KM Munshi
ref sisodia...you call KM munshi (first Indian dy home minister) that founded the very respected history research and chronicle foundation `bharatiya vidya bhavan' unreliable?? exactly by what qualification and standard do you qualify your opinion to have the audacity to make such a statement?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.69.77.227 (talk) 19:51, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- WP:HISTRS for the expected standard for history-related subjects. That said, Munshi's work is not unreliable exactly - it's just non-ideal as a source on wikipedia and in the Sisodiaarticle in particular the overall quality of citations can be much improved. If you wish, you can discuss the issue on the article talk pages.
- By the way, the wikipedia article on Munshi does not mention him being the Dy. Home Minister of India. If you have a source for that information, it should be added to the article. Abecedare (talk) 16:45, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Discussion for Changing Vyasa page to Krishna Dvaipāyana Vyasa
As discussed in Vyasa TALK page i have created a new page " Vyasa (title) ".But feel that the existing page Vyasa should be renamed to " Krishna Dvaipāyana Vyasa ", inorder to mention about the author of Mahabratha and his contribution.The new page "Vyasa (title) " should be the general platform for indicating all Vyasas ever existed . I have filed for this on Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard to obtain consensus among the various users involved.You are most welcome to go through Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard and tell your opinion.Thanks Arjunkrishna90 (talk) 05:52, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Dulawat
What are we supposed to do with articles such as Dulawat. Is it a CSD job on the basis of no obvious significance? - Sitush (talk) 08:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- On quick googling, 'Dulawat', 'Rana Dulha', and 'Sisodia' are too common individually to be useful search terms; and searching for them together leads back to the ) 09:09, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- Dropped a note at User:Msdulawat's page. Unless they respond with some information that will allow us to at least identify the subject (and, hence judge their notability), can tag the article with A1 in a few hours. Abecedare (talk) 09:14, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
This link [14] was provided by you. It is clearly stated that the Afghan's flag was hoisted at around 200 feet high whereas Indian Flag was hoisted at 250 feet high. 250 is always greater than 200. so, there should not be any confusion.
Now come to the para-phrasing: I just made some changes now...Now take a look at that and still if you think that it's not ok, then let me know. Suman420 (talk) 19:03, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Suman420: Thanks for rephrasing the sentences. Unfortunately though, the India Today article is wrong, and the flag at Faridabad is nether the world's largest not the tallest (the headline of the article that has the additional "Indian" qualifier may be right, but given the blatant errors in the India Today article, we cannot take its word for it). See my longer explanation on the article talk page, where we can continue the discussion. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 19:30, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi
Thanks for reverting my changes if it caused any complications. I was just editing the pages because the pronunciation actually doesn't tally with how it should be pronounced. But since i dont rly have a source, i couldn't quote one. ~u can delete this after reading it :)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Poipoise (talk • contribs) 22:19, March 9, 2015
- @Poipoise: I am not sure what you mean by "pronunciation actually doesn't tally with how it should be pronounced". In general, we are quite lax about demanding sources for IPA guides on wikipedia, especially since no such sources may exist for (say) some non-European names of persons, places etc. However, that is certainly not the case for Allah (I wouldn't be surprised if there are academic articles on regional variations of pronouncing Allah) and some other terms for which you changed the IPA transliteration. Also given that your IPA transliterations were incorrect, it would be best if you made such changes only when you have reliable sources. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 19:56, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Subodh markandeya
Hello
I had given all proofs of newspapers,magzines and books — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amit.pratap1988 (talk • contribs) 09:04, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- Replied on your talk page.We can continue the conversation there. Abecedare (talk) 09:24, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks friend you appreciate my hard work to create this article Mr subodh markandeya is well known personality in supreme court and one of the few senior advocate In india ,the indian kanoon is well known online magjine of legal world and it shows all famous cases by top lawyers and i mention all books by him with isbn no ..and news of all leading newspaper including The hindu,the hindustan times,zee news and other ,which you can go through my friend and iam new to wikipedia ,even i learn from online that how to chat with you , i had formed my first page name nangli wazidpur, i dont know much that how to give all reliable sources to you which are not present online but are there, there are around sevaral news on him but most of them are not available online as during those days internet was not source of news {talk} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amit.pratap1988 (talk • contribs) 02:10, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Amit.pratap1988: Thanks for adding the additional media sources.
- While the article is still borderline, since its sourcing is so dominated by primary court documents, I believe the problem is now better handled by a clean-up than through outright deletion. Perhaps you can drop a note at ) 18:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
hello Thanks for reply ,i had submitted more reliable proofs then all leading lawyers in india please dont edit or clean up important brief as it was a asset of hard working to make such wonderfull article , all material is true and reliable , Subodh markandeya is well known name in indian counsels ,who had wrote 7 books and legal and non-legal subjects ,can you tell me how to post news which are not available online ...Amit.pratap1988 (talk) 03:22, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Amit.pratap1988: Quick replies:
- Sources need not be available online, but they do have to be published (ie, we cannot rely on personal knowledge, private communication etc). See WP:CITEfor information on how to cite them. If you have questions about any particular news-source, feel free to ask here.
- Also note that it is wikipedia's essential nature that any content you (or I, or anyone else) contributes, is liable to be "manual of style. Keep this in mind while contributing content here.
- Sources need not be available online, but they do have to be published (ie, we cannot rely on personal knowledge, private communication etc). See
- Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 03:35, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Bhagat Singh was a Sikh
Please explain what gives you the right to threaten to block my edits?Jsg10lion (talk) 08:25, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- Replied on the article talkpage. Abecedare (talk) 08:44, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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Could you please close the RfC on Jyoti Singh?
Seems it's time.
Thanks, LarryLogicalLarry (talk) 20:45, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- RFC's are typically closed by uninvolved editors after about 30 days of comments, or once no new comments are forthcoming. The exception to this are cases where the consensus view is unarguably clear, which is not the case in this instance. I suggest that we wait a few days, and then post a request for closure at 2012 Delhi gang rape and India's Daughter articles themselves (or, any other pages on wikipedia that may interest you and me). Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 20:54, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
{YGM}Rajendrarajun (talk) 11:19, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- @) 16:40, 27 March 2015 (UTC)