User talk:Andy M. Wang/Archive 4

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	The Technical Barnstar
	For you assistance on multiple protected templates. You've really helped me learn! Zackmann08 (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:20, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It had been extended edit war by Uanfala [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] .

• Despite nearly 10 Wikipedians not agreeing with his views on talk pages of effected Talk pages.
• He cherry picks and tries to define dialects in to Language.
• Wikipedia is not a dictionary.
• Wikipedians can not cherry pick.
• Wikipedians can not impose a point a view.
• Wikipedians move with consensus.
• Wikipedia is an informational project. It can not misguide about language hierarchy.
• Only standardisation of few dialects can not make them language. However few follow this rule for defining Hindko Saraiki Potwari as language. He cherry pick those.
• Even those "few" along with "opposite others" have details whether "Explicit" or "Implicit" which demonstrate a common hierarchy Language Family: Indo European, Branch: Indo Iranian, Sub branch: Indo Aryan, Macro Language: Punjabi, Language: Western Punjabi, Dialects: Potwari Hindko Saraiki and many others, Sub dialects: North Hindko South Hindko.
• All such linguistic sources are mentioned / added by many wikipedians.
• If we accept Uanfala version of "cherry pick" and "Defining" then we will end up with a dilemma mentioned by User Flipro on this move request for 30 odd Punjabi dialects [6].

Time to report User Uanfala for topic ban for Cherry picking, Forum shoping, Edit warring, ignoring talk page consensus on western punjabi diffrent dialect talk pages. Please you being a registered senior editor start the proceeding for Topic Ban and violation of 3Rs. 39.60.232.41 (talk) 01:38, 2 November 2016 (UTC)₯€₠€₯[reply]

Consider registering for an account. Your IP is very dynamic, and it's very difficult to keep track of your own contributions. Your case would be more visible if edits could be associated with 1 account. You have received several talk page notices at other IPs and you have not responded. I have been involved only to the extent of closing discussions and satisfying move requests. If you have a complaint, consider posting at

WP:ANI

along with a direct talk page post on Uanfala's talk page.

Commenting on specific diffs that would hurt your case:

reliable source. This contains another unsupported claim in the edit summary. Whereas edits such as this and this are supported with references to what appears to be reasonable scholarly works. At first glance, this

appears to be a reasonable effort to clean up on sock edits.

Regarding the recent edit history of

common names, and am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, if there's any. I'd prefer to stay out of this for now. — Andy W. (talk) 04:32, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply

]

Andy M. Wang I need to talk to you about Castlebridge University. Can you send your contact info via Wikipedia's email? Marchro (talk) 23:16, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchro: I have opted not to receive email for now. Is there anything private that can't be discussed on talk pages? Is this about Special:Diff/724924044? — Andy W. (talk) 23:22, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. Nothing private. I saw your post about Castlebridge University that used to be in Hawaii. I'm wondering where you got the information you used in the post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marchro (talk • contribs) 15:23, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@

reliable sources, and an another editor will be able to enact it. — Andy W. (talk) 16:10, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply

]

Ahh, not what I meant. Clarified, thanks for the ping — Andy W. (talk) 18:21, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And thanks for the quick-fix! DMacks (talk) 19:00, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. There is currently map problems in many articles, for example see 2014–15 UEFA Europa League and 2014–15 UEFA Champions League. Does this have something to do with your recent edits at Module:Location map or perhaps you can help me figure out the problem? Qed237 (talk) 14:14, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Further information tells me map in 2016 Allsvenskan seems to be working. Qed237 (talk) 14:14, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I just found the problem in Template:Location map Europe, not sure what is going on. Qed237 (talk) 14:19, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Qed237, looks like the issue with Template:Location map Europe was resolved. It isn't high-risk (<400 transclusions), but wouldn't object to the RFPP itself. 2016 Allsvenskan may have been working because the change was still queued up at that point, maybe. — Andy W. (talk) 18:38, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I realised that it was only a problem on European map (Allsvenskan uses map of Sweden), which is why I was able to locate the problem at Template:Location map Europe and revert the editor who had changed it. Qed237 (talk) 11:57, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andy. That copy-paste move was just a mistake by me. My reason for moving that page was legit, but I thought copy-paste would work like typical moves. After I saw my mistake I request an admin to fix it and he fixed it.[7] I'm an experienced. I'm on English Wikipedia since 2012 and I have several user rights. Especially I'm familiar with moving process. It was just a careless edit by me. Because I thought redirected name (original name of article before recent moves) has complete revision history too. When I realized I was wrong, I tried to fix it. --

And I don't why I tried copy-paste method. Complete carelessness. It was a big mistake. Sorry. --

talk) 20:15, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply

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WP:RMT may be the best venue to resolve some of these things, cheers — Andy W. (talk) 20:17, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply

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Here's another that probably needs to move before Jan 3 as he was elected to Congress. Not sure if we should wait a month or so or do it now....I'll leave it up to you to start the discussion and do the timing if that's OK......Pvmoutside (talk) 22:59, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

RM around late Dec (?) and the page'll probably get moved in a week. — Andy W. (talk) 23:33, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply

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Hi

WP:RMT is a "central" venue that also allows quick follow-up questions, and any request that's potentially questionable lends itself naturally to a full RM (with a convenient link offered by {{subst:RMassist

}}). Hope that sounds reasonable.

If anyone at

WT:DAB disputes this, feel free to undo the changes. — Andy W. (talk) 01:18, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply

]

Very, very few people seem to know about

WT:DAB, so I doubt there will be any reverting going on. I've seen enough page histories now to know roughly how a "round-robin" swap works. But how is a swap different from what used to happen? Did a page have to get deleted completely first? (Obviously, I'm not an admin!)— Gorthian (talk) 01:49, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply

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Hi

full process here). To solve a technical WP:MALPLACED dab, a page mover can move (completely vacate) the base page to another location to allow the misplaced dab page to be moved without being blocked. I updated (and simplified) the instructions because these actions are no longer admin-specific as of May 2016, so these requests don't "pollute" the category with requests that could be enacted by some non-admins. Hope this helps! :) — Andy W. (talk) 02:36, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply

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Concerning this edit, there is no apparent reason why the initial "s" in "sign" should be capitalized. I changed it to lower case. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:42, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Michael Hardy: Thanks, absolutely, that was my error (might have been hasty). — Andy W. (talk) 18:39, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andy M. Wang. Kwami is helping me sort out the confusion with Guinea-Bissau Creole vs Upper Guinea Creole and made the deletion request on my behalf. The text on the page "Upper Guinea Creole" is about "Guinea-Bissau Creole". I am familiar with the topic and Kwami is an expert on the subject, so he would not have assited without first making sure that it made sense. I would be grateful for your assistance. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 02:10, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rui Gabriel Correia and Kwamikagami, sure, I'd be willing to help. What about the RM that happened on the talk? Have circumstances recently changed? Just want a clarification here before anything happens, thanks — Andy W. (talk) 02:14, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The only RM I see is to fix a typo. What am I missing? I don't know anything about the topic, but Glottolog and Ethn. both give it the name 'Upper Guinea Crioulo', which is presumably why it's where it is. Looks like there's a second use of the name (Glotto. 'Upper Guinea Portuguese', which is less accurate than calling it Creole) that includes Upper Guinea Creole proper, Cabo Verde Creole and Papiamento. Moving to Guinea-Bissau Creole would avoid the ambiguity, but I don't see that it's supported by refs. — kwami (talk)

Hi Andy M. Wang. I can't even figure out what that request is, not sure if it a move request because of the incorrect spelling or what. Then, the arguments made by Pedro do not hold any water. His argument here that calling the creole after the name of the country is wrong because the creole is much older then the country is absurd. It is name given by linguists, not what ist speakers call it — they refer to their language by various names, variations of Kriol, Kiriol, Kriolu, Purtuguis etc., as is amply set out in the various articles within the group The simple fact of the matter is that "Upper Guinea" refers to both Guinea-Bissau and Cape Verde, as it says here:

• "From one side of the Atlantic to the other, lay a group of Portuguese-based Creoles that are present in three countries of West Africa (Cape Verde, Guinea-Bissau, and Senegal) and in the Netherlands Antilles. These Creoles are genetically related, in spite of the geographic distance, and they are known together as the UGC (Upper Guinea Creoles",

[Apologies for taking time to reply, internet broke down] Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 02:55, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, Rui Gabriel Correia, Kwamikagami, I started an RM discussion. If there's consensus, the page will be moved in a week. — Andy W. (talk) 04:45, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I will follow developments. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 09:31, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Can you relist this requested move, as I don't think it achieved enough discussion. The point you made about Wales being a destination might suggest that we rename the article to Evacuations of civilians in England during World War II. However, assuming only evacuations happened in England (which is not the case), I think it's irrelevant: evacuations occurred in Germany also, but seem to have been confined mostly to western and northern parts. Yet the article has the name of the country in it, not the names of regions, areas or islands of the country. The wiki article for that is specific to children, of course. Also, Japan has an article which uses the country name. In Japan, the evacuations seem to be centered around the southern prefectures. Particularly the large islands of Shikoku, Kyushu and Honshu. Yet the article uses the country name. Presumably the evacuations which took place in the Soviet Union were confined to the west of that country. Yet the article uses the name of the country, and not any geographical region or administrative subsets.

As for evacuations in other parts of the UK: one source for Northern Ireland here, proof of evacuations in Wales and evacuations in Scotland.

Thanks for your help. --98.122.20.56 (talk) 21:09, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The extent of my involvement was a comment in the RM itself. I think your best way forward is to ping the closer directly,

move review, but again, ping the closer first before you try this. Thanks, hope this helps — Andy W. (talk) 21:15, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply

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All right. Thanks for the advice, Andy. I appreciate it. I'll probably get around to it soon. --98.122.20.56 (talk) 03:46, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@98.122.20.56: I suggest you simply create a new move discussion at this point in time. I closed it over four months ago so relisting it would seem strange. Anarchyte (work | talk) 05:33, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Endorsed here — Andy W. (talk) 05:35, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

	The Technical Barnstar
	Thank you for fufilling my numerous page move requests and in some cases coming up with more efficient ways to do the things I request. Pppery 00:08, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply ]

Hello Andy M. Wang. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group, allowing you to review new pages and mark them as mark pages as

The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In case of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, the right can be revoked at any time by an administrator. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:14, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: You added your request for reducing level to the increasing level section. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 00:08, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Argh, thanks, fixed self — Andy W. (talk) 00:11, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Per your

Hi. I just saw that you closed this RM Discussion as no consensus. However, the only oppose !vote was made against deletion of the articles, indicating that that commenter probably misunderstood the point of the discussion, and that comment should have been discounted. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:59, 20 November 2016 (UTC) Paul_012 (talk) 18:59, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've listed the discussion at Wikipedia:Move review. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:52, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Andy M. Wang. Voting in the

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Sad to see that you're away. Just wanted to thank you for your exceptional work at RMT. – Uanfala (talk) 22:39, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. If you're gone because of real-life obligations that preclude participation at the present time, that's fine. If you're on break due to any on-wiki issues, please do come back here, and let's sort it out. You were on my short-list of potential administrators, and it's always a shame to see such editors leave. Best regards, wbm1058 (talk) 16:45, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Andy M. Wang. You are invited to comment at a further discussion on the implementation of this user right to patrol and review new pages that is taking place at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/RfC on patrolling without user right. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:37, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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symphonies

Thank you for quality articles such as Requiem (Berlioz) and List of accolades received by Up in the Air, for starting articles on symphonies by Dvořák and Tchaikovsky among others, for countless redirects and moves, for welcoming users, for images, - Andy, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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Thank you for all you did for this project in 2016, Andy M. Wang. May your house be safe, and may you and those having the privilege of your company enjoy good health in a Happy New Year 2017! Kind regards, — Sam Sailor 01:55, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply] Pass on! Send this greeting by adding {{subst:User:Sam Sailor/Templates/HappyNewYear}} to user talk pages. Automatic level-2 heading and auto-signing included.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:72.142.10.110&oldid=715161888 not your page, not your comment==not your privilege to remove it (see WP:TPG). 72.142.10.110 (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @72.142.10.110: The edit you raw link to happend in April 2016, and you quote DMacks from their edit summary when they twice reverted your perculiar deletions of Andy's own comment on his own talk page five days ago. Get over it, and get editing. I've posted you a welcome message. If you have any questions, you are always welcome to ask me on my talk page, although you are guaranteed quicker feedback at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Happy editing, — Sam Sailor 19:53, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

	The Technical Barnstar
	You've contributed much to Wikipedia's technical aspects. I think your work should receive more acknowledgement. Mr. Guye (talk) 23:33, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for uploading

; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator seven days after the file was tagged in accordance with section F7 of the criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:25, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Marchjuly, from what I can see, File:Cindy-sherman-untitled-153.jpg was uploaded by Pmussler on 29 August 2014. Let me know if there's anything else I should do, but I believe you contacted the wrong party...? Cheers, — Andy W. (talk) 03:42, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Scratch that, I see that it's resolved — Andy W. (talk) 04:52, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I only added the template to your user talk page because it appears from the file's edit history that you were the editor who added the non-free use rationale for the Cindy Sherman article. If that was not the case, then I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:06, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pageswap

Andy....I applied for adminship (alas, my request was rejected) because I've been trying to move pages to update animal species taxonomy on a regular basis and didn't want to bother other admins for such mundane tasks. Most pages move without issue, but some if links were created in redirects, they lock and I can't move them. During the RfA, some admins suggested your pageswap tool, which I tried installing after getting approval as a pagemover. The button appears below the move button, but when I plug in the page on where it should be moved to, nothing happens.......I'd like to get this working to stop bothering other admins......please help! The page I am trying to move is

Cape pygmy owl to Baja pygmy owl....Pvmoutside (talk) 14:31, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply

]

Hi Pvmoutside, thanks for letting me know. I believe you've installed the script fine.

To swap

Cape pygmy owl

page directly, click "Swap" (which should be next to the "Move" option), enter "Baja pygmy owl" in the prompt, click OK several times (when it asks about moving talk pages, click OK), and it should just work. (Make sure you then update the moved redirect's target) If the "Swap" button is still not doing anything, I think it may be due to your browser's JavaScript settings...? Do you see any prompts that are popping up when you click "Swap"?

Another thing you can do, if you don't feel comfortable with swaps, you can post at

WP:RMT any time, and someone would be able to help you relatively quickly (at least in my experience) Hope this helps — Andy W. (talk) 18:41, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply

]

Hi Pvmoutside, just did some tests... When the first prompt says Swap "Cape pygmy owl" with:, and you type in Baja pygmy owl and click okay, the next prompt takes a few seconds... maybe it depends on your Internet connection, the servers' load I think? I suggest wait 20 seconds. If you still see nothing after that long (really shouldn't take that long), it may be some JavaScript settings in your browser. (It's also a bit of a design issue in my script I suppose) Let me know if you have updates, I'm curious. Thanks — Andy W. (talk) 19:02, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

nope....nothing, even waiting for 20 seconds.....Pvmoutside (talk) 11:29, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

WP:RMT. Hope this isn't too much of a barrier. Feel free to let me know if there's anything else you need — Andy W. (talk) 00:04, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply

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Swapped — Andy W. (talk) 03:36, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Page mover granted

Hello, Andy M. Wang. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

Useful links:

• Wikipedia:Requested moves
• Category:Articles to be moved, for article renaming requests awaiting action.

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Swarm ♠ 03:11, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Implementing

MOS:JR

change

Hello. There was a change last year to

WP:RMT. It has been suggested that I request the WP:Page mover right and use your pageswap.js script, eliminating the need to involve admins. Can you describe how to do these moves using your script, for the non-technical user? Thank you. ―Mandruss ☎ 12:42, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply

]

Hi

swaps. I outlined a general case here

, but in other words: click "Swap" (appears next to "Move") and simply follow the prompts:

• Enter the new page title.
• In general, click OK when it asks about moving talk pages (and subpages like archives and good article nominations), though I have some tips below
• At the "Move reason" prompt, enter your intended summary, and you're good to go. (There's a final confirmation before it attempts any action, so don't worry about title typos.)
• The script doesn't update redirects by design, so after the swap, update any involved to point to the new page title.

FYI about my own swap approach (a bit detailed here): if one page has a talk (or subpage) and the other page doesn't, a swap will "redlink" these pages, which is likely undesirable, especially if they have incoming links. I occasionally move the talk page (or subpage) separately, i.e. swap the mainspace pages, and later do a redirect-preserving move on the talk page (or subpages).

I hope this helps. Please let me know if I should clarify anything! Cheers, — Andy W. (talk) 20:11, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled (Peasant Girl, spinning)

Hi there,

I'm not familiar with how to communicate on this platform, however you have incorrectly changed the page I wrote for Elihu Vedder's painting "Peasant Girl, spinning". You changed the page name and the name of the work to "Peasant Girl Spinning. The title assigned by the artist and which has always been attributed to this work is "Peasant Girl, spinning". With the comma, and the uncapitalized 's' in "spinning".

Elihu Vedder was meticulous about the naming conventions of his own works. It is correctly listed in the inventory of works he sold in 1867 in The Digression of V (Boston and New York: Houghton Mifflin, 1910). I could go into greater detail why naming conventions are important to Vedder's works of the late 1860s (multiple, precisely and individually titled versions of similar works exist), but that's really not relevant. What you did was introduce erroneous information based on a formatting convention that does not apply to this artist's works.

Please could you stop changing my article. I would like to know what your credibility or authority as an art historian is - but you have changed the article I spent a long time writing. I am sorry this is the only way I know how to reach out - I am trying to learn wikipedia and would like to be able to contribute more content from my research, but just imagine how demoralizing it is when someone changes your article to the wrong information. I have several more articles about individual paintings by Vedder but how can I add them if someone with no authority on the information will simply change them???

Best,

George

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:585:c101:ef80:dd48:63b5:860e:294a (talk) 03:43, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Followed up here on the talk page, thanks. I'm taking your post(s) as a move request — Andy W. (talk) 16:04, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Just for personal reference, Special:Diff/723289921) — Andy W. (talk) 16:08, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Swap bug?

Hi,

I don't know if this is just me being incompetent but the swap tool you made is very useful, however it seems to suppress talk page redirects without prompting me, any ideas?

Thanks, DrStrauss talk 10:06, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DrStrauss, thanks for letting me know! I wouldn't say this is a bug, more like a feature. I think this is one of your examples? I mitigated this by recreating Talk:Neutral unit of construction (airlines) to fix this issue. After swapping A and B (and a single talk), I need to re-create redirect Talk:A separately, although you could also swap only A and B and afterwards perform a regular move of Talk:A to Talk:B (preserving a redirect).

In a bit more detail, the reason I decided against fixing redlinks is a scenario such as: Swap A, Talk:A, Talk:A/subpageX, B, Talk:B/subpageY. After the swap, the pages are A, Talk:A/subpageY, B, Talk:B, Talk:B/subpageX, with previously existing pages Talk:A, Talk:A/subpageX, and Talk:B/subpageY redlinked. Or should these newly redlinked pages turn into redirects? I personally don't think so, and it seems largely dependent on context, hence my tool has avoided these issues for now.

In short, I'd recommend: Perform the swap. If the other page (and talk, (and subpages if any)) is a redirect, fix its target. Check your own contribs for redlinked talk pages and create them as redirects as necessary. (especially if there are incoming links (Special:WhatLinksHere)) Hope that makes sense! — Andy W. (talk) 19:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely, thank you for the detailed explanation, that makes sense. Best, DrStrauss talk 19:53, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Missing dependency declarations

Hi, I was looking at User:Andy_M._Wang/pageswap.js and I notice that it does not ensure/declare it's dependency on the resource loader modules mediawiki.util and mediawiki.api, of which it is making use. These modules are loaded on almost every page, so it likely won't cause a problem too often, but you should really fix that because it is good practice, and will make it easier to maintain in the future. Please see: mw:ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#Client-side_.28dynamically.29. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:16, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for that resource! That was very helpful. I believe I've corrected the issue by using mw.loader.using. — Andy W. (talk) 06:21, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Andy_M._Wang/closeRM.js

Hi, the script User:Andy_M._Wang/closeRM.js did not declare/ensure it's dependency on resourceloader module mediawiki.util. I've corrected this. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:55, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Very belated thanks! — Andy W. (talk) 06:21, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question about pageswap

Hello! I've been using your pageswap tool for a few months now and have noticed a common thing when swapping pages. My question is why does the redirect not link to the new page name (see here for an example)? I have to manually go in and change the redirect when IMO it would make more sense for the redirect be the new page title automatically... Hoping you can help on this. Thanks, Corky ^{Buzz by the Hornet's Nest} 04:03, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Corkythehornetfan, this was a design decision on my part for several reasons, including the fact that the 3-move swap operation already has plenty of latency (in my humble opinion), that the "swap" operation could be one on either of the pages to be swapped (including on the redirect), and there's generally some ambiguity on how to deal with the talk pages, subpages (if they exist), and talk subpages (if they exist) of either page to be swapped. I think I found some cases where the redirect(s) point to some completely unrelated or new page, and these cases have to handled on a case-by-case basis. Some of the talk or subpages may be redirects, and some may not be. After a swap, there is potential to redlink a number of talk/subpages when the other page does not have talk/subpages of the same names/positions, if that makes sense. I figured that handling these cases was out of scope, and that the script (for now) should do nothing except make sure the two selected pages (and its talk/subpages) are swapped, nothing else.

So, for now, yes, I'd manually correct examples such as your example here. Hope that makes sense...? — Andy W. (talk) 16:08, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Makes perfect sense! Thanks for your help! Corky ^{Buzz by the Hornet's Nest} 00:05, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there. You seem to be an expert on this. Several users now have brought up adding the annual US College ranking from Times Higher Education to the Infobox US university ranking template. I'm having trouble figuring it out. Could take a look at the page and tell me what I'm doing wrong/help me out? Thanks! Pdyusmep (talk) 03:36, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your direction. Looks like we have a discussion going. All the best. Pdyusmep (talk) 13:13, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Just wondering if it's possible to request a feature for your pageswap script? Would it be possible to update var moveReason = prompt("Move reason:"); to something like var moveReason = prompt("Move reason:", moveReasonDefault);, where an editor could manually set their own moveReasonDefault in their personal common.js?

Just that I personally use the pageswap script solely for

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AlexTheWhovian, this is  Done. That was a nice suggestion, thanks! — Andy W. (talk) 15:03, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply

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failed third move

Hi. Long time no see.
While performing round-robin, I got the error "Fail on third move Draft:Move/Robin Bush (historian) -> Robin Bush (historian)". I did it manually. But when I checked the pages individually, and my contrib history; all looked fine except the history of Robin Bush. Would you please take a look into it? Thanks a lot in advance.
Also pinging Amakuru, as he can history that we cant.
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I've taken care of the move btw. I also realised you haven't edited in two months. I hope everything is fine. Best, —usernamekiran(talk) 07:07, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Massretarget

Hi Andy, I hope you are well? Just an idea for a future update of Massretarget: stick in an {{R avoided double redirect}} in the {{Redirect category shell}}. Thanks, Sam Sailor 07:36, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sam Sailor, that's a good suggestion, thanks! For my reference: Special:Diff/844583314 vs Special:Diff/844583217. I'll see if I can get around to this at some point — Andy W. (talk) 13:57, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Thanks for pointing out that template, I wasn't aware it existed either. I'll have to go back and add that to a bunch of redirects. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 20:09, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Traditional African religion

Have you read Talk:Traditional African religions/Archive 3#Requested move 2?

I know that you had moved the page following this request, but I would want to know if you can agree with the reversal to original title. Thanks. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 20:19, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@OccultZone: Thanks for the link... I wasn't aware of the previous RM when I moved as unopposed. I could agree with the reversal, but since the page has had its current title for 19 months, perhaps another RM could clarify the issue? I suppose you could just move it and cite the issue... consider me a neutral party to this — Andy W. (talk) 04:14, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking it. That discussion was pretty lengthy and it thoroughly debunked the argument that was used in the RM from 8 November 2016. Many particular religions have numerous sects, beliefs and practices but it is under same roof. For technical reasons I can't move the page. You have no issue with the reversal and I had lodged a request on

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Suggestion: Retarget after page swap

Hi Andy, after the end of 3 step page move. a redirect ends up pointing to itself on the original page location, This is not correct. After every pageswap, this has to be manually retargeted to the new page location. Can this step alse be included in the automated script. Should be easy to include. cheers. --DBigXrayᗙ 13:11, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DBigXray, good idea! (Hope you are well, Andy.) Sam Sailor 14:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sam Sailor :)

DBigXray, this might be the third or fourth time I've heard this suggestion... I've highlighted a number of reasons I decided against the retargeting here and here, for example. I also outlined a number of things that I personally think might be out of scope for the tool. I guess it's debatable and there's not a right answer, how hands-on and how intervening the tool actually should be. How would the tool handle cases where A redirects to B, but a subpage of Talk:B redirected to Talk:A? Reverse that redirect too? There are also cases where three pages' contents need to be swapped (happens more frequently with 2-dab scenarios). What to do about the redirect page?

I must admit that I've thought more about the corner cases than solutions to them, but so far, I say that pageswap is just a tool to swap the histories of two pages, and not intervene and correct redirects.

If you really insist, let me know, and I'll put more thought into making the correction. Thanks for your feedback though. Happy editing, — Andy W. (talk) 00:17, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• DBigXray I do have a separate tool for correcting double-redirects (including self redirects). I didn't design this for mass usage however, and this isn't really well-advertised. The tool, when installed, is also somewhat intentionally difficult to navigate to (this is a mass retarget tool) When I've been performing swaps, I do use both these scripts. Maybe this helps save some time? — Andy W. (talk) 00:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Andy, Please accept my sincere thanks for taking out time to respond to this 4th time. I am sure, there are lot of corner cases. but the tool is primarily used to move over redirect. e.g. Redirect R points to Article A. and they need to be swapped such that the end results is A is a redirect pointing to article at R. But at the end of this, the contents and page histories are swapped but, Location A ends up with a "redirect to itself" at A. I can understand why it is caused, but this is something that is believe is undesirable. If the complexity allows it and it doesnt have a major side effect, I would request you to kindly agree to adopt this suggestion. specially since this is a popular and widely sought after suggestion (me being the 4th user to ask this). --DBigXrayᗙ 11:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DBigXray I can't give guarantees due to real-life commitments, hope you understand. If the tool will support retargeting, I definitely want to make it a thorough check (if A is a redirect to itself, if A has redirecting subpages, if Talk:A is a redirect to itself, and if the talk page has subpages... and prompt to retarget everything and anything related to page A reasonable... I might need to check the status of R for sanity, just talking out loud). I'll look into it in the next few days... again, no guarantees — Andy W. (talk) 01:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Suggestions

Having been a long time user of your pageswap tool, I have to admit it's pretty great. I think I have a few things, or rather wrinkles, that could be improved upon, but it's okay imo. What I was thinking is instead of the current OK, Cancel dialog, we have one window to handle everything, just two radio buttons, move talk and move subpages and hit OK. That would make the chances of messing up much harder. @ me if you consider it, thanks a lot for your hard work! --QEDK (後 ☕ 桜) 17:43, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Might address this if I find an adequate amount of time in the next months or so, no guarantees — Andy W. (talk) 18:15, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yet another Pageswap suggestion

Any way to make pageswap work from Special:MovePage? For example, when someone submits a move request, it shows up with a link like [8]. It would be great if I could run PageSwap from this page and have the target, destination, and reason automatically filled in by parsing the URL. --Ahecht (TALK
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Agree , Right now I end up copy pasting this edit summary and the new page name every time i make moves. If this can be incorporated somehow, that would be great. --DBigXrayᗙ 23:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I mocked this up in my userspace at

User:Ahecht/pageswap.js. The relevant diff to enable the basic functionality is here. The diff for the additional code that also modifies the error text to include a swap link is here. --Ahecht (TALK
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Thanks Ahecht. @DBigXray: Take a look at Special:PermaLink/816035463#Pageswap. You can define a default "move reason" in your common.js, like this, for example — Andy W. (talk) 18:27, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In the case of links generated by {{RMassist}}, the reason is different each time. --Ahecht (TALK
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Ahecht is 'correcht' ! . Andy, The Reason generated by {{RMassist}} is basically the phrase added by the Move requestor, along with his name. This reason is helpful to the other page watchers who can read the edit-summary and understand the reasons for the move. --DBigXrayᗙ 20:00, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stranded talk pages

Pageswap seems to be leaving behind a lot of talk pages that redirect to themselves. In other words, the article gets moved correctly, but the talk page doesn't.

Talk:Forever (group) is one current example (assuming no one has fixed it before you see this message). --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:22, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply

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@R'n'B: That's because Woodensuperman did not perform steps 3 and 4 in the swap routine. (fixed for now) Talk page redirect retargeting, as I've highlighted repeatedly, is still out of scope of the pageswap tool (also already had a discussion about this earlier). I think if I were to address some feature requests, I would actually want to overhaul the tool (the existing code is not that great looking back at it). Can't guarantee that I have the time these days — Andy W. (talk) 18:12, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, sorry, I'll be more careful in future. --woodensuperman 09:39, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Red 11 (film)

Hello,

I need help to pageswap the edit history of my new page

Red 11 (film) with the redirect page Red 11. I do not know how to do this change. I would like to move the work and history of Red 11 (film) to the unnecessary extra disambiguation of Red 11. Can you help me? Cardei012597 (talk) 22:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply

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Hi

WP:HISTMERGE, which requires administrator permissions, and I've requested this now. Cheers. — Andy W. (talk) 13:08, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply

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WP:RMT and follow the instructions there. If it gets challenged, it will move to a full requested move discussion. (I'm not active, and don't have the permissions to swap right now) — Andy W. (talk) 13:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply

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I prefer not to do a histmerge. I have requested for speedy deletion on the empty redirect. Under Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, G6. Technical deletions, deleting redirects or other pages blocking page moves. The original redirect was for an incomplete, poorly sourced, version of Red 11, with different editing histories. I believe this method will be more efficient, so that once the empty redirect Red 11 is deleted, I can swiftly move Red 11 (film) in its place. Cardei012597 (talk) 19:03, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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