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Agta (Mythical Creature)

Question for Anthony Appleyard - Archiving User Talk

Page Move

Request for help from Anthony Appleyard

  • Can you please fix this page of Negrito so the text runs along side of the picture and caption at the top and is not so far down the page? I do not know how to fix it. Thanks. 99.32.61.98 (talk) 04:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
  • The text is alongside the leading image and the history box already, as displayed on my Firefox 3.0.4. Which internet browser are you using? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:21, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
  • I am using internet exploiter 8. :-) 99.32.61.98 (talk) 18:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Interesting Anthony. The text runs alongside the leading pictures in Fire Fox but NOT in Internet Explorer 8. Disturbing. Dr CareBear (talk) 20:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Help getting Two Pages Merged

Need help with a simple format tweak for
Wak Wak

Topics on Philippine mythology and folklore

At the bottom of the article called

Agta (mythical creature) and not Kapre? Because I do not know how to do it. Thanks. Dr CareBear (talk
) 02:03, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to Anthony Appleyard

Thanks for the good job cleaning up and formating the

Agta (mythical creature) article to further remove possible copy right infringement. Good job. Dr CareBear (talk
) 02:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Another AFD for "List of creatures in Primeval"

You may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of creatures in Primeval (2nd nomination) since you commented on the 1st nomination.Barsoomian (talk) 07:26, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

dc Talk

Your closure

here is frankly a bit surprising. Why create a pointless disambig page? The band is obviously the main subject, not their album; a hatnote would have been suffice. Secondly, I don't see the consensus to move the band name to capital "DC"; it's an MoS guideline, but a couple of people disagreed and wished that IAR could be implemented in this case. JamieS93
18:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved
DC Talk (band) to DC Talk, with a hatnote to the album, since disambiguation does not seem necessary and would only cause more broken links (Special:WhatLinksHere/DC_Talk). Regards, JamieS93
17:05, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Question Regarding Linglewood Lodge

Thanks for cleaning up this article. -- samj inout 21:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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  • Howdy! I noticed you removed the speedy deletion request on this article in favor of the AfD. In the AfD discussion you stated that it's not a copyvio if the same person wrote the Wikipedia article and the article at the external site.
    WP:COPYVIO
    goes on to say that in the case where "all of the content of a page appears to be a copyright infringement" and if no "older non-infringing version of the page exists" "the page will normally need to be deleted." This is how I have seen this type of problem handled in my limited experience.
    So, I'm trying to clarify the reason for declining the speedy deletion and how I should have best handled the situation. Was the decline simply because the page had already been nominated for deletion? Rather than stacking a speedy deletion on top should I have simply marked the content with a {{subst:copyvio|url=source(s)}} tag? Or is there something else that would have been better done? Thanks for your help. --TreyGeek (talk) 15:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
  • I thought that having two sorts of delete procedure current on the same article at the same time would confuse matters. The AfD will decide whether or not the article is suitable to be kept.
    I wrote "... it may not be copyvio ...", with "may" = "perhaps", as I was unwilling to come to a definite decision yet.
    If John wrote a web page, and Peter copied it into a Wikipedia article, then Peter would have committed a copyvio. But what if Peter wrote the web page and the Wikipedia page? Has he committed a "copyvio against himself?" The Wikipedia version is public use; the version in his web page is his copyright. The two contradict. I suspect that we need a ruling here. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:50, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Martin Katz

Hi. I saw you worked on the

Martin_Katz_(American_jewelry_designer) article. But I believe the redirect belongs on the article about Martin_Katz the musician, not the other way around. Thoughts? Assistance please? Thanks. 38.109.88.194 (talk
) 01:04, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey man, thanks for all the assistance! 38.109.88.194 (talk) 22:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

new section

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Fixing attribution for cut-and-paste move from Avram (name) - advice needed on how to fix my mistake.

Resolved

Further to the recent discussion on Avram (name), I decided to go ahead myself and follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia#Repairing insufficient attribution by adding dummy edits giving attribution at the various pages, in addition to your helpful notes on the talk pages. Unfortunately I accidentally added incorrect attribution to Abram (disambiguation), inadvertently adding to the mess. Fortunately the message makes absolutely no sense, however I would like your advice on how best to fix things. I can think of the following ways:

  1. Ask an admin to selectively delete the dummy edit. While I realise such an action is unusual, it seems to me to be the cleanest way to fix things; no real edit history is lost as the edit was deliberately a dummy one. I appreciate that admins may feel such drastic action is unwarranted however.
  2. Leave things alone; since the edit summary makes no sense, it does no real harm.
  3. Add yet another dummy edit, noting that the summary of the incorrect dummy edit is nonsense. This might be done with a formal "undo" edit history or similar.

I can see drawbacks and advantages to each choice and given your experience combined with your familiarity with this case would value your input. I also realise that the creative content we are talking about on the affected material is at best strictly limited and that this case is therefore relatively trivial and any remedies should reflect this. --MegaSloth (talk) 22:18, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Flatscan has kindly reassured me everything is OK on this issue, resolving my concerns. Thanks again for your assistance. --MegaSloth (talk) 13:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Aa 5000BC spring midnight.gif

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Aa 5000BC spring midnight.gif, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

H2O Audio Page Deletion

  • Hello Anthony, Excuse me if I've got the wrong person, but I'm a bit confused. You see, it seems that the page H2O Audio keeps getting deleted, I question the deletion, prove my points of why it isn't advertising, that it is notable and back it up with tons of third party reputable references, and the page gets put back up, not by me, but by a member of the Wiki-community. Then another member of the Wikipedia community will come along, delete the page and the cycle starts all over again. This time, it seems that someone even marked me down as vandalizing the very page that I wrote. So I'm really confused as to what is going on and why my notable contribution keeps getting deleted. Would you happen to have any insights for me? Thank you so much for your time. DanaS (talk) 18:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)DanaS
  • I have undeleted it and AFD'ed it: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/H2O Audio. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Thank you! I do welcome any help on how to make it more objective or notable.

DanaS (talk) 00:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)DanaS

Hala'ib Triangle

Hello. A couple of days ago, at my request, you moved the article

Hala'ib Triangle. It had been moved by an editor without discussion, and I pointed out that "Hala'ib Triangle" had 145,000+ Ghits and "Halayeb Triangle" had a little over 1,200 hits. Now the same editor has once again moved it, again without any discussion, despite my informing him that he needs consensus to make the move.[1][2]

Would it be possible to move it back again, and warn the editor that he shouldn't make undiscussed moves, and needs to get consensus? Thank you. Beyond My Ken (talk

) 04:57, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

FYI, User: Malik Shabazz took care of the move back. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:20, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Help

Hello. Can you help me?

talk
) 02:13, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

I've undone some of your talk page moves

Hi Anthony, see my message at Talk:Circumcision controversies#The archives of this talk page for my explanation. The situation with the archives was quite bizarre,, so I thought it would be helpful to write about it in case something similar happens in the future. Graham87 15:41, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Template:Diving-stub has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 04:46, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Mariah Carey discography

Looks good. Thanks.—Kww(talk) 19:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Moving The Sun

Hi Anthony. Could you possibly review your close on this move proposal. Contributions to the original proposal were evenly split. And all the contributions to the amended proposal were posted on the same day and then closed two days later. — Blue-Haired Lawyer 18:39, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Sorry for the confusion but I looked at amazon and record labels and he is usually sold under "Shivkumar Sharma". This user just came along and changed all the spellings in the article. Could you fix the name again? Thanks Hekerui (talk) 14:50, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Relisting a page - advice needed

  • Hi Anthony. I attempted to add a page on AlertSite before and apparently incorrectly deleted the entry. Sorry for any breach in deletion procedure. More relevant information is now available and I would like to revisit posting an entry. What is the best way to do this? The comment states that I need to speak with you prior to posting.WebWonderGal (talk) 12:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
  • At AlertSite are 4 stub-length deleted edits dated 13:04 to 13:07 10 March 2009. They say "AlertSite is a Web site performance monitoring and management company [and link] headquartered in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida." and it was speedy-deleted {{db-corp}}, i.e. a typical "non-notable corporation" deletion. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:23, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Okay. Thank you. If I have more relevant, "notable" information, is it okay to post it? Or should I place it in the sandbox to review first?WebWonderGal (talk) 11:22, 29 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.20.4 (talk)
  • Post it again at
    not notable. Anthony Appleyard (talk
    ) 16:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Very odd move

Why is d'Orléans being changed?

Merging Images and Media-Taskforce

Thanks

Thanks for fixing the AI :) Avé[[]] 06:54, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Anthony Appleyard,

Why all these sudden moves on the "de France" & "d'Orléans" articles with no prior notice?

We went through long discussions months ago & now all is being changed with no notice.

The surname of members (children of the king) of the senior Bourbon branch of the French royal family was "de France", up to & ending with Charles X, and eventually his children who were born "d'Artois". The next & last king to reign was Louis-Philippe d'Orléans who took the title King of the French. From the generation of the children of Philippe de France, duc d'Orléans, brother of Louis XIV, the Orléans branch took the surname d'Orléans, all the way to today (legally, as it is the only surname they are allowed to use in France, (a surname like that of Charles de Gaulle: are we going to change it to Charles of Gaulle?). In other words, "'Orléans" is a surname, and so is "de France", not only something to put after a title. As an example:

  • Louis-Philippe d'Orléans, duc d'Orléans, in French, becomes
  • Louis-Philippe d'Orléans, Duke of Orléans, in English.

The daughters of Louis XV were all surnamed "de France" and were addressed to as Madame + used baptismal name (which may not have been the first). They were not given the title of "princesse" as is given them in en:wiki. Children of the king & members of the king's family were "prince/princesse du sang" but, the only members of the king's family to be princes of anything were the eldest males of the "Condé" & "Conti" families who were "prince de Condé" & "prince de Conti", their respective wives being "princesse de Condé" & "princesse de Conti".

The daughter of Louis XVI was Marie-Thérèse de France, and was addresssed to as Madame Royale. May I point out to you that while you have changed her to Marie-Thérèse of France, you forgot to change "Madame Royale" to "Royal Madam" or "Royal Mistress" or "Royal Mrs." or whatever proper English should be.

Bathilde d'Orléans, the sister of Philippe d'Orléans (Philippe Égalité) was not a "princess d'Orléans". She did become a princess when she married the prince de Conti. Accordingly, she should be Bathilde d'Orléans, princesse de Conti, in English: Bathilde d'Orléans, Princess of Conti.

I simply do not have the time right now to go through all the past discussions on the subject & bring them to your attention, but it is becoming tiresome & depressing to do so much work and then, months later, have someone come & erase it all as if previous editors were ignorami & their work worthless.

When --Frania W. (talk) 17:56, 4 February 2010 (UTC)such moves are planned, a notice should be posted at the talk page of each article because all cases may not be the same. Some of the Orléans women of the 17th century are being given the title of "princesses" in en:wiki, which is totally wrong. Only the children of Louis-Philippe I, king of the French, (1830-1848) were princes & princesses d'Orléans (not de France)

Please feel free to bring this to whichever talk page the discussion is taking place.

Best regards, --Frania W. (talk) 07:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


  • I find it extremely strange that an anonymous IP who signed up at Wikipedia just over one month ago, yet who seems quite savvy about Wikipedia & its "rules & regulations", should be able to dictate his/her demands with no discussion whatsoever, and be "obeyed". That IP's two dozen requests were granted within a few hours with no notice given & no discussion permitted at articles talk pages. That is dictatorship. Following this logic, should I go and make contrary requests expecting the moves to be done with no further discussion??? Why not???
    Since I joined Wikipedia, some time in 2007, I have participated in quite a few discussions, never as an anonymous IP, and the few times that I edited not realising that I had logged out, I always have returned to the edit & identified myself. It seems to me that radical changes should not be permitted under an anonymous IP's signature. --Frania W. (talk) 17:56, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
  • OK, I understand :: soon after, someone put in another multiple move request in the uncontroversials, and I listed it for discussion. Point taken. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Lindsay Hamilton history split

Barnstar

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
For all the work you do with fixing cut-and-paste moves (
Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen). You definitely deserve this. Keep up the good job! :) Theleftorium
17:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Your note

Hi Anthony, per

WP:V, please do not add or restore challenged material without providing inline reliable sources. Our policy is very clear on this: "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material ... any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation." Having some material in other Wikipedia articles is no substitute for reliable sources, as WP itself may not be used as a source. Thanks, Crum375 (talk
) 13:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

GLNG

Hi, Anthony Appleyard. There is a

discussion about the article's name. Your input is appreciated. Beagel (talk
) 16:47, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Moved policy page needs the archives moved as well

William H. McNeill move

Discussion moved to

Talk:William Hardy McNeill
.

Orléans

Scuba diving - Rebreather section

Hi Anthony, following on from the discussions at Talk:Scuba diving#Rebreather without nitrogen, I've made a draft of proposed new text at User:RexxS/Rebreather#Proposed draft with as much sourcing as I could find. I'd be happy for any comments, suggestions, etc. either at User talk:RexxS/Rebreather or at the article talk page. Dive safe! --RexxS (talk) 17:53, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Forcefins reference

Hi Anthony, I'm a bit concerned about the inline reference regarding the benefits of Forcefins. They way it was originally written in (with a link to the forcefin website), it is presented as an independent review of the fins by a recognised university. I'm concerned that this reference may not be entirely legitimate. The named referenced does not come up on any of the journal search engines, and googling the author and university also brings no results. Looking at the paper on the forcefin website, I get the impression that the paper is a sham. The reasons why are as follows:

It's written in a heavily promotional way with conclusions about the benefits of forcefins in the introduction.
It includes no citations whatsoever
It has a sample size of 1, so no statistical inferences can be made
There is only one comparison made
The conclusion comes before the discussion (That would not even pass highschool science).

For these reasons and the strong benefits being claimed, I think it may be worth having the reference hidden until the actual reference (if it exists) turns up. Cheers Clovis Sangrail (talk) 08:53, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Swimfin

With this revert, you have restored text which is unsupported by any third party reliable source. The study referred to is published at http://www.forcefin.com/FF_wisewords/lindsey-study.htm - that does not meet our standards for independence, nor for having a "reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". I request that you self-revert, or explain your reasons on the article talk page. --RexxS (talk) 09:00, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Force fins

  • Hi Anthony, I appreciate your work and help in Scuba and other articles. But as a veteran editor, I am sure you know that, per
    the burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material." Material published on a manufacturer's website does not qualify as a reliable source for promotional claims about the product, as I am also sure you know. Please do not restore this material unless you also add the appropriate independent sourcing for it. Thanks, Crum375 (talk
    ) 13:22, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I found the refs, with less than a minute of googling. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:43, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Anthony, AFAICT this is the exact same source we had before, on the manufacturer's website, which does not qualify as a reliable source for promotional claims about a product. If you have an independent source, published on an independent non-promotional website, please provide it. Otherwise, please don't restore material which has been challenged. Thanks, Crum375 (talk) 14:08, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:The Chipmunks Sing The Beatles Hits#Move?

Hello! I overlooked this discussion until noticing on my watchlist that the resultant move had occurred. (Having previously reverted the same move after it was unilaterally performed by the editor who just requested it, I would have appreciated notification of the proposal.)
A key fact not raised in the debate is that the word is clearly rendered as "the" (with a lowercase "t") on the album's cover. Any grammatical error (if one exists) is that of the publisher, and it isn't our place to correct it.

David Levy
22:25, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Famous polar bears

Syrian Hamster

Phantom Ruler Zoroark

Ask for protection, how?

List of Brussels Metro Lines

  • Re your comments at cut and paste move repair holding pen. I agree with your comment and accept I probably posted it to the wrong place - you're right it was a copy and paste. My concern is that regardless of exactly how it was done this article is not properly attributed as the copy and paste is not acknowledged. I don't really edit wikipedia any more but when I see something like this I think I should raise it for someone to fix. In this case I raised it in the wrong place but I didn't (and still don't) know where else to raise it. Dpmuk (talk) 13:39, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I have put a note in Talk:List of Brussels Metro Lines to say what happened. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:27, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Cheers. I would have done something similar myself except a) I wasn't really sure what form it should take and b) more importantly I couldn't could my head around what affect (if any) the likely merge of the two articles would have on the situation. I've been a bit ill the last few days so that may have affected my ability to think it through properly! Dpmuk (talk) 17:55, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Anne Marie of Orléans / Anne Marie d'Orléans

  • Anne Marie of Orléans even though the page is still under an RM. Could you move it back and, if necessary merge the histories. In the vein, LouisPhilippeCharles has been doing a lot of cut and paste moved for in relation to the whole of Orleans/d'Orleans debate. I left him a brief message requesting that he not engage in cut and paste moves but rather use the RM process. If you could keep an eye on it that'd be appreciated. All the best.--Labattblueboy (talk
    ) 13:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Anthony, many of these articles were at "of Orléans" initially anyway before they were moved without discussion or consensus. Isn't there a convention for restoring the article titles and then discussing?
    Seven Letters
    21:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Which of these articles need to be moved to where to get them back to their original names? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

St David's Centre

Your input is requested at

Welshleprechaun (talk
) 18:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Ray Turnbull (Curling)

  • Ray Turnbull is the John Madden of Curling. The article should be undeleted.
    talk
    ) 23:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
  • It was
    Ray Turnbull (curling)
    , and AfD'ed it.

Thanks.--

talk
) 12:37, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm confused

At

Talk:Concordia University (Montreal)#Move?
you wrote:

I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean: "I am proposing that Concordia University be moved to Concordia University (disambiguation)."?
Do you mean: "Concordia University was moved to Concordia University (disambiguation) without discussion."?
Or do you mean something else?
I'd appreciate a clarification please. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:51, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Unexplained revert

Moving images

It actually is possible, as long as you're an administrator. (This is a fairly recent development). I performed the move. harej 01:06, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Zia International Airport

  • Could you help me with this article? Basically, there has been a decision to rename this airport, though the exact new name is a matter of much debate. One user has just gone and made a couple of moves that I am unable to undo myself, so I'm asking for help! There's an ongoing discussion here where all but one editor has said the original name should be retained until the exact new name is known. The editor who moved it is also not totally sure! Thanks, Jasepl (talk) 16:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I have linked this discussion to Wikipedia:Requested moves. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 17:29, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
    • Thanks! Jasepl (talk) 10:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Moves

  • MOS Two style guides (one general, and one specific to music articles) are very clear on how these articles should be titled. I don't see how this is in any substantial way controversial. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 07:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I have re-proposed these moves back as discussed moves, which will duly appear in Wikipedia:Requested moves. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Concordia primary topic?

Hi, Anthony! You previously commented at

Talk:Concordia University (Montreal)#Move?, regarding a requested (un)move, and I'm wondering if you've had a chance to review the discussion since? Thanks! jæs (talk)
01:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Howdy. FYI, I've had some more thoughts. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

David Wilson (English footballer, played for Hamilton Academical and Stranraer)

  • Hello. I suggested David Wilson (footballer born 1908) in the RM discussion, in the light of new sourced information on birth and death. Unfortunately, neither I nor anyone else got round to actually adding said info to the article. I've now done so, so would it be reasonable to move the poor man again, to David Wilson (footballer born 1908), or, if we're being precise, David Wilson (footballer born c. 1908), for consistency with how the other ones are named? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I have started a move discussion about it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move: Mary, Queen to Scots

I do not believe that your closing of the discussion at Up in the Air (film)#Requested move adequately considered the validity of the arguments. The opposing arguments consisted of:

  • "The phrase "Up in the air" has been around longer than the book or the film" - Yes, that's true, but entirely irrelevant since there is apparently no article with information about the phrase itself. Also,
    WP:PRIMARYTOPIC
    is pretty clear that the criteria for determining a primary topic is about which topic users are seeking, and not about which topic came into existence first.
  • "leave a dab page at the primary location" - No argument whatsoever, despite much earlier discussion about why that's not a good solution.
  • "I don't see any problem with a two entry dab page. It's very clear that there is no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC - neither page should be [[Up in the Air]" - Again, no actual argument addressing the earlier discussion, which had virtually all been in consensus that the film should be the primary topic. And isn't it a coincidence that both of these last two statements, promoting a view that nobody else agreed with,came from anonymous users, within a few minutes of each other?

There were several hundred words of thoughtful discussion of the kind Wikipedia should be promoting, and everyone who participated in that conversation (by which I mean replying to people who disagreed with them) had arrived at the conclusion that the film was the primary topic. It's discouraging that several people who take the time to hash out an issue, can be overruled by a few sentence fragments with no sense of sincerity behind them. I request that you reconsider, and if you still feel there was no consensus to move the page, I would appreciate it if you could direct me to the right way to seek a second opinion. Propaniac (talk) 19:53, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


  • I have reverted my closure. But, looking through the discussion I have found 3 each of support and oppose, and much inconclusive discussion giving plenty of opinion for both sides. That looks quite like "no concensus" to me. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
    • Much of the discussion opposing the move came from a single user (
      WP:PRIMARYTOPIC guideline. And I really, really do not think that two IPs that don't address any of the discussion should be given much weight. But thank you for reopening the discussion. Propaniac (talk
      ) 15:17, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol

Failed History Merge of Tilikum to Tilikum (orca)

Help desk query - cut-n-paste move?

The first of the two articles mentioned at

BencherliteTalk
17:23, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

  • "
    Mastic " is made out of Pistacia lentiscus tree ! . Unfortunately many people in the world do not know this spice is known to only a few in the Middle East, And a secret except for people as a great healer. I ask not to be confused with Gum arabic is something else entirely! . " Mastic is made of wood and Pistacia lentiscus ". And Gum arabic is produced from a Acacia tree resin. This spice also does not appear in any dictionary in the world and the first time he appears in the encyclopedia That he always appears in the encyclopedia as a "resin of Pistacia lentiscus" . Recently I went to the Hebrew Language Academy to recognize this word of this spice to appear in the dictionary. Greek island " Chios " know the spice is already 2000 years. Today Mastic known oriental foods, especially " Mastic ice creams " like Dondurma (turkish ice cream gum) and " Booza (arabic ice cream gum) . I would like to know about " Mastic " as an independent value for all. this spice is called only " MASTIC " and nothing else. in hebrew it is have many names and latin the word mastic is mean chewing gum. burekas (talk
    ) 17:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Deletions

Mission Community Church

  • Mr. Appleyard...
    You deleted a page that was absolutely noteworthy. It contained verifiable information as well as worthy content. I compared Mission Community Church's content to several other churches within Wikipedia and mine was far more content rich. Please explain the purpose for your deletion.
    Kerri Lawrey-Jones 22:21, 5 March 2010 User:Mission68
  • At 23:11, 4 March 2010 User:Phantomsteve tagged it for speedy deletion "A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content).". Its deletion log reads:
    1. 17:52, 5 March 2010 User:Anthony Appleyard (talk | contribs | block) deleted "Mission Community Church" ‎ (A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)
    2. 19:19, 27 January 2010 User:NawlinWiki (talk | contribs | block) deleted "Mission Community Church" ‎ (A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)
    3. 21:24, 26 January 2010 User:Nyttend (talk | contribs | block) deleted "Mission Community Church" ‎ (A7: No indication that the article may meet guidelines for inclusion)

Market Theatres

Thanks for sorting out the headings for the various 'market theatres' by renaming the Johannesburg article, as I requested earlier.

I recently made some corrections to the Wiki article "The Market Theatre (Ledbury)", with which I'm connected (as well as running its website). I don't know who the original author is (Wobblydog).

This page is still preceded by the following, presumably placed there by Wiki moderators:

I have put in one reference today - but I note the Johannesburg article, which has no references at all, does not have the above notices. I would have thought there was no difference in 'notability' between the two articles. Could you remove the notices now?

Superstevegs (talk) 22:28, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


Sorry about article

  • Yeah, sorry about the article, it's my first, but I think I found out the problem and I'm going to try again.Futuramarama (talk) 03:03, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Request for help

I am will shortly be posting to

WP:AN
with the request below. Any support would be appreciated.

Request to WP:AN

"I would like to take the article History of logic to FA. I have already sought input from a number of contributors and have cleared up the issues raised (I am sure there are more). I wrote nearly all of the article using different accounts, as follows:

  • User:Peter Damian (old)
  • User:HistorianofLogic
  • User:Logicist
  • User:Here today, gone tomorrow
  • User:Renamed user 4

I would like to continue this work but I am frustrated by the zealous activity of

User:Fram
who keeps making significant reverts, and blocking accounts wherever he suspects the work of a 'banned user'. (Fram claims s/he doesn't understand "the people who feel that content is more important than anything else").

Can I please be left in peace with the present account to complete this work. 'History of logic' is a flagship article for Wikipedia, and is an argument against those enemies who claim that nothing serious can ever be accomplished by the project".

talk
) 09:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Magnus move

  • I am sorry that I seem to have made some mistakes with a disabmbiguation page regarding Magnus I of Sweden. Thank you for restoring things! I'm not very good at such technicalities I'm afraid. The actual move needs to be done as per the discussion here. Looks like that disambiguation page may constitute a hindrance in getting that article appropriately named. Can you help accomplish that? Cordially, SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:14, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, Mr. Appleyard! SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:15, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Hi AA. Thanks for carrying out the renaming of Peter Kjær (architect)! I noticed that at the same time you moved "the other" Peter Kjær to Peter Kjær (footballer) and created a disambiguation page. Looking at Google News hits, and for that matter Wikipedia article links, it seems that there is a case to be made for keeping the footballer as the primary topic. You probably have considerable experience with this, so I'll yield to your opinion. Favonian (talk) 12:12, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
  • That depends on how much Peter Kjær (footballer) is a dominant meaning. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
  • The criteria suggested in WP:PT include news search and article link, and these are both strongly in favor of keeping the footballer as the primary topic. If truth be told, it took bit of an effort to assemble the reliable sources for the architect. Favonian (talk) 12:27, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Giovanni Di Stefano

St Pauls

Thanks for your reversion, I shall probably raise further discussion at WT:WikiProject Bristol. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Say what?

Feedback Requested

  • I recently updated a profile for AlertSite, basing the overall format on another company who has a Wiki entry (and after re-reviewing information on posting your first article multiple, multiple times). The version I posted had an additional paragraph that provided additional source information to demonstrate its notabilty. The profile was deleted for unambigous advertsing. In your opinion, is it better to only have the first two paragraphs with one source listed (like the other company has done)? Any assistance and/or guidance that you can provide on getting this entry posted would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time. 76.109.251.11 WebWonderGal (Talk) 17:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
  • See Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:Spam. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 00:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Thank you. If I resubmit my article with just the first two paragraphs and the external link for the company website, would the article be accepted? If not, what would other things would need to be done to keep the article on the site? WebWonderGal (talk) 16:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
  • AlertSite. Try it, but there is a risk that it will be deleted {{db-corp}} (= "may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as an article about a company, corporation, organization, or group that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject.". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:49, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Thank you for feedback, I really appreciate it. One thing I am confused about - other company articles (ie Coradiant) are accepted. Would you be able to explain why Coradiant is considered noteworthy and AlertSite is not? Any additional insight that you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Also, I assume that with each speedy deletion entry, the liklihood of getting your article posted is reduced. Is this the case? I don't want to limit the liklihood of it being posted. Thank you in advance for your time. WebWonderGal (talk) 20:51, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Comparison between Roman and Han Empires

Fossil Plant Articles

War on Terrorism

Love Brewster

Hi Anthony, Thank you so much for your help in moving the Love/Truelove Brewster page. Dranster (talk) 23:06, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Confusing move request

Many thanks for history merge for Advocacy group

WP:RM dab page proposal

I Get Paper

Discussion at Talk:Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom/Article title

moved
SOCKS (protocol)

Victory Station

  • Hey, next time you move/rename an article that has existing links could you also move the 'what links here' article links? You moved
    Victory Station that had a well established usage on WP but failed to edit any of the templates or articles that linked there Special:WhatLinksHere/Victory_Station. Maybe next time you could just suggest the rename on the talk page and let those who care about keeping everything neat prepare for the move? I check this article a lot and was rather surprised when it moved, but only thought of the link impact when visiting another article and saw the problem. Thanks! Spectre9 (talk
    ) 20:27, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:39, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

What consensus for moving Ortega?

Division I

source

  • Do you have source for this? [4] --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 00:26, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
  • I saw it spelt that way in a modern-age map in the back of a Bible that was printed before the state of Israel was founded. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:52, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Zerg

  • Please don't restore an old atrociously in-universe fan version of an article like you did for the article on the Zerg. The article was merged two years ago along with the others to create the
    sourcing available at present to build a proper Zerg article with comprehensive and verifiable reception and development information, as surprising and annoying as that might be. Perhaps after the new media is released, we'll have enough to work with to create a fully-fledged separate article (at least that's my hope), but as it stands at the moment, restoring something that just reiterates plot at a stupidly specific level (especially when we can provide links to places that provide that approach and do it far better than the old version) isn't the way forward. -- Sabre (talk
    ) 17:00, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Noddy

Hi

Re Rv. I have heard and read "Noddy" used this way plenty times by computer users in former decades - because the term "Noddy" isn't mentioned in either of the target articles, this listing does does not belong on this dab page. It may be true (I don't doubt your word) but if it's to be included on the dab page, the information needs to be added (with <ref>s, obviously, as <ref>s are not permitted on dab pages) to the target article first.

See

MOS:DABRL: The linked article should contain some meaningful information about the term. 92.2.208.239 (talk
) 09:55, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Anthony Appleyard. You have new messages at Talk:Flashback.
Message added 22:30, 25 March 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

 Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:30, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Anthony Appleyard. You have new messages at User talk:Marcus Aurelius Antoninus/Main Battle Tank.
Message added 23:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

does this convince you?

talk
) 23:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Reply

Sarah Brown (public relations)

Help my American friend

Myanmar TV

Hi. I've done a bit of research into those Myanmar TV channels that our friend keeps claiming are Thai - I've added my comments at Talk:Myanmar_Radio_and_Television#Some_research -- Boing! said Zebedee 17:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

RE: Histmerge request query

Sorry, there was a typo (which I didn't notice because it didn't show up as red link in the tag). It should have said Andrew Carnegie Free Library and Music Hall. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 16:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi

If you read the Cantonese

User:Angr's final decision was not a summary of what the voters were suggesting. Benjwong (talk
) 06:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)