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Despite the above saying that this does not imply any issues with your contributions, you, on Talk:Linda Sarsour, attributed a statement to her that she never made and the sources you cited do not support. Please do not make up quotes in the future. Thank you. nableezy - 15:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nableezy, sorry I mixed up "Zionism" with "Judaism" (I explained on the article's talk page that I did this because the Start article's title said "The leaders of the American Women’s March have spoken: Jews are unwelcome on the feminist left"). Instead of accusing me of "making up quotes", why not just correct me if I misrepresent or misquote a particular word? Barca (talk) 16:11, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You put in quotation marks something she has never said, and then followed that with "according to Sarsour". How else would I describe attributing a made up quote to somebody? You misread? Ok, thats fine, just be more careful when attributing quotes to people. nableezy - 16:14, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

June 2019

Talk:People's Mujahedin of Iran. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Mhhossein talk 10:48, 1 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
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"what they're actually saying is that your bludgeoning has become hysterical — not that you're necessarily a hysterical person". Barca (talk) 14:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Clearly, it isn't the most civil thing to say..."[same diff]. --Mhhossein talk 05:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree it isn't the most civil thing to say. But I don't know how you went from that to an "attack" against you. My comment was on your editing pattern, not on you (as El_C said). Barca (talk) 09:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Personal attack is not the only thing editors should avoid. Civility matters and it's a great improvement you admit your comment was not, let's say, "the most civil thing to say". Regards, --Mhhossein talk 12:19, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm aware that civility matters, as I'm hoping you've become aware that your bludgeoning of the talk page was not helpful. Regards. Barca (talk) 12:38, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually the reverse. The other parties were bludgeoning the process. --Mhhossein talk 14:20, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You were bludgeoning the process, this is why I mentioned you, which was not a personal attack or uncivil or anything else except a comment on your method of participation. Please learn to work with others Barca (talk) 17:42, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Four of Diamonds

Hey! I noticed you just added a message of support for the move of

talk) 18:15, 3 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
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MEK is under 'consensus required' restriction

Hey, your edit is a breach of

the recent restriction of the page made by El C after users agreed upon it. Please be careful for next edits. Thanks. --Mhhossein talk 13:36, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
]

This edit is another violation of the restriction. Please preform a self revert or there should be an admin action. You had to gain consensus before restoring an already removed material. --Mhhossein talk 14:33, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Just a little token of my gratitude for your kind words about Chérubin!Niggle1892 (talk) 21:24, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A guess

Hello! Was this a result of your cat stepping on the keyboard?

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Heads up

Hi Barca, Thanks for your edits on the MEK page recently, they have been very helpful as that article has been under a lot of problematic editing lately. Just wanted to give you a heads-up to paraphrase and quote from sources as much as possible to avoid any copy-vio issues. Thanks again.Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 08:18, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Stefka, yes I noticed this was an issue. Will you fix and add the copy righted material that has been removed? There is also a discussion about a New York Times source you added ([1]), would be good to have your thoughts. Barca (talk) 15:09, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Barca: I'm going to take a break from editing the MEK page, will also avoid participating in its talk page discussions. I'm disappointed on how things are being handled in some of these pages (see this for instance), and feel my efforts have become futile there. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 09:44, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Let's chat

Hello. It appears we have disagreements on what to include in

this article. I think at the end of the day, both of us will have to forget about some of the things we want to see in the article while keeping some other items included in the article. Therefore, I suggest we come up with a list of the items that we want to be included or removed and find a middle ground before conducting the actual edit. To show good faith I restored the version of the article you originally edited back in December 9th.--Kazemita1 (talk) 11:27, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Hi Kazemita1, if you have good faith, you should not be reverting your edits back into the article ([2]), ([3]), which in your edit summaries you said that I had agreed to those changes, but this is not true. Barca (talk) 15:17, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Here is your last edit on December 9th, right before the edit warring started, in which you consented to the addition of the following statements:
  • " and "continued to conduct limited terrorist attacks in Iran for years".
  • " shadowy outfit with little support inside Iran and cult-like attributes."

Please, note that you did not edit the article any further for two days after that and one would naturally think this is a sign of consent. Two days later, on Dec. 11th when me, Ypatch and Emilcioran were all blocked and could not comment on any of your edits you deleted the above mentioned statements. You are now trying to present the facts as if I cheated. To show you further evidence, here is Emilcioran's edit and Ypatche's edit -who even though were opposing my edit- all included the above mentioned statements. In other words I am trying to say there is consensus on the version of the article I restored after recovery from block. And finally this is the diff between my edit right after recovery from block and your last edit on Dec. 9th that shows they are the same word for word. Of course, you knew all of that.Kazemita1 (talk) 06:34, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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People's Mujahedin of Iran has a rule that new text that has no consensus can be reverted back to the long-standing text. To make sure I am following the rules, I confirm all this in the talk page ([6]). I thought I was doing everything correct, and was blocked anyway. Kazemita1 did not even write in the Talk page a justification for adding the new text that I reverted, and nobody said anything about that. Barca (talk) 10:43, 22 December 2019 (UTC)}}[reply
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Your appeal is moot because this block has expired. MER-C 08:20, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Let's Chat 2

I am asking you -for the second time - to think over my proposal. Let's list the things we want to be added/removed from the article. As a starting point I am asking you and @Mhhossein: to both revert your edits for which you both were blocked. (I mean after your block is over). To expedite the matter you may express your opinion here in your talk page.--Kazemita1 (talk) 02:08, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mhhossein was not blocked. That's because they actually made an effort to substantiate on the content front, albeit rather too briefly for my liking. And because BarcrMac is now blocked, they can't really collaborate with you on the article on-wiki, using their user talk page as a proxy. Their usage of their talk page has to be limited to an unblock request only. El_C 02:20, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @El C: for letting me know.--Kazemita1 (talk) 02:24, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Requesting help

Hi greetings,

I have been looking for update and expansion support for 2 following articles in draft namespace

  • Draft:Aurat (word)
    (article to cover grammar and linguistic part)

and

Please do have a look at the article, do update, expand, correct inaccuracies, suggest and discuss better article titles

Looking forward to your kind support.

Thanks and warm regards

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Topic ban from the MEK

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People's Mujahedin of Iran
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  • I've made the need to be careful with sources abundantly clear, but your latest post is still playing fast and loose with the sources. You ten sources to support the claim that "The Iranian clerical government continuingly targets, imprisons, and executes MEK supporters". Of these, the first is an editorial from a dodgy source that refers to the torture of a couple of supporters only in their voice; the second refers to alleged attacks against members; the fourth talks of the MEK being a target of assassination; the fifth talks of a single person; the sixth talks of people who explicitly denied a connection with the MEK, and refers to charges that may or may not have a connection to the MEK; the seventh and eighth talk of incidents occurring decades ago; the ninth only confirms the death of one individual, and attributes the rest to the MEK; the tenth doesn't refer to current supporters, but to relatives of political opponents killed in the 80s. The only source which may be acceptable is the fourth, and you've provided no way of verifying that one. In short, you're engaging in forbidden
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Stop hounding me

Let me make it clear, you need to immediately stop

hounding me. Suddenly jumping into the discussion, where you have zero contribution to the page or its TP, is a strong evidence. (@Vanamonde93: for attention, please.) By the way, that drive by comment is totally irrelevant. --Mhhossein talk 08:27, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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@Mhhossein: I am not hounding you. I've been very involved in articles related to protests in Iran: [7][8][9][10][11][12][13] and so on... You should be warned to stop falsely accusing other editors, which is battleground behavior. Barca (talk) 15:00, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mhhossein, what article are you referring to here? Vanamonde (Talk) 16:05, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You had zero edits to
2018 Khuzestan protests. I am talking about this weird comment. --Mhhossein talk 18:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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I linked the
2017–18 Iranian protests to the 2019–2020 Iranian protests, and it has been on my watchlist ever since (like most protests in Iran, a scope I've shown an interest in). Barca (talk) 02:57, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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I am not seeing a hounding issue here, but Mhhossein is correct in saying that comment makes little sense, and comes across as reflexive opposition. If you oppose the merger and want your opinion given weight, you're going to have to elaborate more than that, Barca. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:17, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I misunderstood Mhhossein's proposal. I thought it was about merging
2018 Khuzestan protests article, something that would not make any sense. I corrected it now. That still does not explain Mhhossein's false "hounding" accusations. Barca (talk) 09:58, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Ok, will do my best to fill the edit summary field. Thanks for letting me know. Barca (talk) 14:38, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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