User talk:Believeingood

Hello! Believeingood, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering or curious about why your article submission was declined please post a question at the /tlk 23:06, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply ]

Great name! All the best, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:26, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Joshua Jonathan and thank you for leaving a message for me. As I am completely new to this I haven't a clue what I am doing. Editing User talk seems like it can't be the right way to respond to a message, but I can't see any other way.

I submitted a page for review but it was rejected. If I understand correctly it was because of lack of demonstration of notability although I had included an external link to the subject's publications. I'll read the guidelines more closely and re-submit. I must admit, it's all more difficult and involved than I had anticipated, but no doubt that's good as it makes the content more reliable. When I finish banging my head off the wall here I'll have another go. Thanks again for your message. Believeingood (talk) 11:26, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Believeingood -- Welcome to Wikipedia! If you want to create articles, it's worth taking the time to read all the articles that are linked in the message you received above. Then, after you've understood all the policies and are ready to start writing the article, it would be a good idea to write the article in your Sandbox. That way, you can keep working on it until you get it the way you want it, and you can ask other editors to read what you've written and offer comments. Don't get discouraged. You'll get the hang of it. Also, remember that Wikipedia editors are like people everywhere. There are all types of personalities. If you have difficulty understanding or communicating with one editor, you can just avoid further communication and keep looking for editors whom you find helpful and with whom you find it easy to communicate. There really are a lot of helpful and pleasant editors. (Joshua Jonathan is one.)

Regarding responding to other editors' comments: you can respond on that editor's talk page, on your talk page, or on an article's talk page. You click "Edit", type your comment, then sign by typing four tildes right at the end of of your comment, and click "Save" (you can click "Preview" first to be sure it looks the way you want it to, then save). It's usually best to respond on the same page as the comment you're responding to, in fact, right after that comment. You can always start a new section on any of those talk pages. Just click on "New section" at the top of the talk page, give the section a heading (can be almost anything, but try to keep it short), and type. If you are referring to something in an article, it's a good idea to provide a link to that article with double square brackets. If you want to provide a link to a particular section in an article, type, in the double square brackets, first the article title, then a number symbol (#), then the section heading from the article. If you want to type a comment on your own talk page, and draw the attention of another editor to your comment, you can either ping them by typing, for example, {{U|Corinne}}. Note that it's curly brackets, not straight brackets. (Using the no-wiki template ensures that the ping doesn't really work.) or notify them by typing, for example, [[User:Corinne]] or [[User:Corinne|Corinne]]. If you are ever unsure how to type something, look at what another editor has done in Edit Mode. You'll see all the templates, hidden formatting, etc. Just be sure to click "Cancel" to get out of the Edit Mode window without changing anything. Since I only copy-edit articles, I'm not the person to ask about creating articles. For that, you'll have to read those linked articles and/or ask another editor. Best of luck to you. Let me know if you have any other questions about basic stuff. Corinne (talk) 17:00, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that really lovely, informative and generous-spirited message Corinne. It's very useful. Believeingood (talk) 17:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! Two more things: 1) When discussing something, especially on article talk pages, it is customary to indent one more space from the left margin than the previous comment was indented. You indent using the colon (:). If the previous comment started at the left margin, you indent your reply one space, starting your comment with one colon. If the previous comment was indented one space, with one colon (you can see it in Edit Mode), you should indent yours two spaces, with two colons. Some editors use a bullet (made with the asterisk) to make it clear where the the beginning of a new comment is. Little by little, with additional comments being added, the margin will move to the right. When it gets too far over, you can use the outdent template (type "od" between double curly brackets), which will bring it back to the left margin. It makes it clear that the discussion is continuing, but brings the eye back to the left margin. 2) You might like to enable "WikEd". Click on "Preferences" at the top of your page. Then click on "Gadgets". Then go to the Editing section and click on "WikEd", to select it, and click "Save" at the bottom of the page. Then you will have the Wiki-markup under the edit window when you edit, and, when you look at text (especially an article) in the edit window, you'll see that the text stands out better. Formatting and references and notes are highlighted in gray, hidden notes to editors are in salmon, image files and captions are in light green, and text is just black text on a white background. Corinne (talk) 17:44, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again. I've enabled WikEd and it certainly is useful. If something else like that, or the margin indent, crosses your mind, I'd be most grateful if you'd let me know. There's a huge amount to absorb - thank you for the encouragement. Believeingood (talk) 23:19, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm wondering why this appears as separate from the rest of the body of text? Believeingood (talk) 23:31, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because you put a space at the left margin before you put the colon. That gray box will appear any time you put a space at the left margin. Just start typing right at the left margin. If you use one or more colons to indent, you definitely don't need to add a space after the colon, either. If you remove the space you put at the beginning of each of your two last comments, and save, you'll see that your comments will look right. Corinne (talk) 00:19, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do you see "More" at the top? If you click on "More", you'll see Google translate option. If you think you'll use it, make sure it's "on", then just leave it that way. You can change the "[translate] to" language. I just leave it "to English". I don't use the "double click" option, but I suppose you could. If you run across a word, phrase, or sentence in another language and want to know what it means, you just highlight it, then hit the Shift key on your keyboard, and wait 1-4 seconds. (You might have to hit the Shift key again.) The translation will appear. Sometimes, especially it it's an entire sentence or more, it will be a bit garbled, but the tool is useful anyway. (If that happens, it might help to break it down into phrases, and go phrase by phrase.) I think this doesn't work when you're in Edit Mode; it works only when you're not in edit mode. By the way, if I didn't have your talk page on my watchlist, I wouldn't have seen your comments, above. If you want to be sure I see them, either ping me or give a notification somewhere in your comment. I told you how to do that, above. (If you see, either after saving or after clicking "Preview", that either the ping or the notification is red, it probably means that you've spelled the name wrong. Just check the spelling and save.) By the way, the ping doesn't work if you don't sign (with four tildes). If you type a comment, save it, and then want to go back and add a ping, you click "Edit", add the ping, but be sure to sign again (after the first signature, that is, after your user name and time stamp). The ping and the notification are not that different from each other. Generally, the ping is used because you really want a particular person to see your comment. The notification is used when you are mentioning someone during the course of a discussion and you want the person to see it, or at least have the option to read it, since they're mentioned. You don't have to notify someone; it's just a kind of courtesy. Corinne (talk) 00:37, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I understand how the margin works now, less sure about pinging - but all really useful User:Corinne. I tried using curly brackets to ping, but the text was red and said Template:Corinne. Also, that's interesting about the Google Translate function, but I can't see that 'more' tab. Believeingood (talk) 01:17, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Look at this carefully: {{U|Corinne}}. That's a ping. Are you sure you used a pipe: | ? There's a pipe between the "U" and my user name. Have you found the pipe on your keyboard? Mine's way over to the right. Now look at this: [[User:Corinne]]. That's for notifying someone – a notification. There's a colon between "User" and my user name. That's what will show up, too, after you click "Save". A little more attractive, and nice when including an editor's user name in a sentence, is [[User:Corinne|Corinne]]. When you type it this way, only what's after the pipe will be visible (after you click "Save"). For the "More" tools to show up, you might have to enable Twinkle. You enable Twinkle by clicking on "Preferences", then "Gadgets", then look in the "Browsing" section, and click next to "Twinkle" to enable it, then click "Save" at the bottom of the page. But I wouldn't use any of the items in the Twinkle drop-down menu (at the top of your talk page, to the right of "More") until you understand them (and you need to be granted "rollback" rights before you can use that). Corinne (talk) 01:52, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Great information, Corinne. I'm amazed that I stumbled into this because I always saw coding as something of a black art operated by people with brain functions that I don't have. But if I do ever manage to become literate in it, it will of course be very useful. I may be away from this for a while because I will have to gather the independent references to the subject. Clearly, that's the next step, and slightly daunting as it could take a long time. Recently I was at a linguistics conference and got chatting to someone who mentioned in passing that the work of R.B. Walsh was of critical importance to his PhD. Obviously he cited him in the publication - but I'd never have known if we hadn't got chatting. Hopefully getting these references together will turn out to be easier than I think.

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Thank you for that last comment Corinne. It may be a couple of weeks before I manage to get back to this. I'm under pressure for time at work and gathering the references and citation I need for this article will take time. But I look forward to getting back to it and understanding better how it works. Thank you very much for your help. Believeingood (talk) 09:38, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Believeingood. It has been over six months since you last edited your

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ERK ^talk 10:37, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Believeingood. It has been over six months since you last edited your

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 03:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Quasar G. was:

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's

Referencing for beginners

. Thank you.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

At the moment, the references which use footnotes do not demonstrate notability (more reliable, secondary sources are required). It would help if all the references were linked to the article using footnotes.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:R.B. Walsh (Risteárd Breathnach) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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