User talk:Daedalus969/Archive 20
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Double-posting
If I don't seem to be responding, then it's not unreasonable to drop me a short note with a link. But please don't paste a duplicate of the full text. Dylan Flaherty 01:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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Destinero
- Hello there Daedalus: This is Nicholas Turnbull here, the enforcing administrator for Destinero's limited topic ban. I apologise that I wasn't able to comment on the AN/I discussion; I have been away working on a systems project, and it took place during that period of time.
- First off, I would like to ask for your assistance in helping me to bring this rolling dispute to a close. I agree totally that Destinero's behaviour towards you has been uncivil. I believe your responses have, also, been uncivil, no matter how justified. I might point out that, if the actual article dispute has shifted to underlying civility issues rather than the nonsense about WP:UNDUE(which it seems to have done), we are, in fact, making progress. It isn't sensible to "fight fire with fire" when it comes to civility issues. I am sure that you have already noticed that Destinero is, in fact, a productive editor when 1) there is no POV issue at stake; and 2) there is nothing to keep him going in an extended argument. It is this latter, 2), that I need you to help me with; I have partly solved 1) by the ban that has been enacted, since Destinero's editing is now muzzled to prevent the majority of the issues that formerly would have caused him to be topic-banned entirely.
- I am of the opinion that enacting a topic ban would make him more, and not less, belligerant; and, as such, would be the first step on a downward spiral to ArbCom. This nearly, but didn't quite, occur in the former Mediation Cabal LGBT parenting case, as Destinero -- in the final hour, as it were -- capitulated. I don't see any evidence to suggest a topic ban is either appropriate or necessary as, indeed, Destinero has adhered to the terms of his editing restrictions; frankly, if the only editing conflict left is about the inclusion of the word "consensus", I feel sure that Wikipedia (and the other article editors on the LGBT-related topics) will survive the blow. That an editor has editing restrictions against them does not increase the severity of sanctions for other matters, and the civility issues are not germane to the policy interpretation and POV matters that were the more serious problem.
- So, will you help me here? When Destinero gets into the mode of posting huge, convoluted arguments full of links to sources, or does the whole lack of knowledge argument, etc.; could you simply, and unemotively, remind him to follow (talk)17:22, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm frankly not sure if that is possible. The whole experience with that crap has frankly pushed me away from that article. I don't feel I want to edit there, if I have to deal with that level of incivility, and nothing is done about it.— Dædαlus Contribs 20:38, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'd say that's probably for the best. I hope that Destinero ultimately feels the same way and edits elsewhere also; the other option is that he will end up being banned entirely from Wikipedia. We will see what ultimately transpires. --(talk)11:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'd say that's probably for the best. I hope that Destinero ultimately feels the same way and edits elsewhere also; the other option is that he will end up being banned entirely from Wikipedia. We will see what ultimately transpires. --
- I'm frankly not sure if that is possible. The whole experience with that crap has frankly pushed me away from that article. I don't feel I want to edit there, if I have to deal with that level of incivility, and nothing is done about it.— Dædαlus Contribs 20:38, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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Re: 142.162.192.210 and his ilk
Hi - thanks for the message. I'm a little slow on the uptake, trying to get back into the deep end of the pool again after an extended break from really active editing, so I apologize for the mixup. At least now I know about it, so if you have trouble with this guy's socks again I can help you without much further discussion. I'm glad you found another admin to take care of it this time. If you need further help, don't hesitate to ask. :-) (And in case you're wondering, yes, your user page is still the special page. I looked at the bug report marked 'fixed' - the whole thing's wild, isn't it? Yowza.) Thanks again for the message. :-) - KrakatoaKatie 09:31, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Replied on your talk page.— Dædαlus Contribs 09:45, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Good grief - what a mess. 'How to Spread Your Interpersonal Problems Around The World In 5 Easy Steps' or something. If they keep doing this much longer I think the ban hammer might just come down. Disruption is disruption, you know? And they're certainly doing that. - KrakatoaKatie 09:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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Hi Daedalus, I clicked on the "+" button on your sig just to see where it went. It brought me here, which isn't working for me. Have you tried this URL instead? Airplaneman ✈ 03:28, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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You Chung Hong
- Did you read the text in the article? It reads "helping rebuild the community after it was relocated to accommodate the construction of Union Station in the 1930s" and "He designed a series of buildings on Gin Ling Way, one of which ultimately housed his legal office, and developed the main entrance gate on Broadway and its neon lighting". How can an editor can say "text does not support a picture of the east gate of Chinatown". Anyone knows Chinatown will tell you that the gates are the most important structure there. The photo was posted by creator of the article. Ucla90024 (talk) 23:36, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Template:Time ago2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 01:47, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Tildes
For what it's worth, I learned about the tildes pretty quickly when I started here. What I still had a lot to learn about was NPOV and fair-use and such as that. Nor did I know anything about administrative pages such as ANI. I began to be exposed to those entities as issues inevitably began to arise. That's why I get suspicious of "new" users who seem to know too much. Perhaps that's a personal bias, though. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:01, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
IP warned for 3RR
I've warned him, but you need to watch it also as it's easy to get a block for this.
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Accidental Comment Removal
Hey, what do you know? Perhaps Dylan's removal of LAEC's comment was inadvertent: witness this[1]. I don't personally see the greater value of restoring PrBeacon's comment (though it's up to you, and it seems like an accident): I think yet another WQA concerning civility would be
That's way too specific to be a mistake. If it was an edit conflict, or an error in the software, the entire comment would be removed, not just a portion.— Dædαlus+ Contribs 09:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)- I see now I did that, restoring.— Dædαlus+ Contribs 09:55, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
- Weird, right? I saw him make the comment, groaned to myself about the possibility of another WQA, and went to respond - but it was gone. I saw he didn't revert it, and then saw what happened. There must be some kind of a glitch, and like the other case, it was one minute apart. Odd. Cheers :> Doc talk 10:11, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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Re: Nuts, crazy, nonsense, insane...
Hello, I have replied to your message at User talk:Retro00064#Nuts, crazy, nonsense, insane..., in case you are interested. Regards. [|Retro00064|☎talk|✍contribs|] 00:51, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
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Response
I have zero interest in pursuing this further, but as a conscientious editor I'm obliged to tell you I responded to your comments on
ANI
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Koch
Why did you remove the tags? I justified them on the talk page. Multiple editors agreed with me. ANI said they shouldn't be removed. DF certainly shouldn't be removing them, especially when he never responded to my talk-page concern. THF (talk) 03:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry case
Your name has been mentioned in connection with a
The guy files an SPI and then gets put in the stocks for a week good. There's a moral there someplace. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:19, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Smirnoff
"...page blocks you!" That's a good one. Can I use it? :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:58, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- Replied on your talk page; other than that, feel free to! :D — Dædαlus+ Contribs 20:03, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
- Done. An excellent addition to my collection of obscure quotes. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)