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Double-posting

If I don't seem to be responding, then it's not unreasonable to drop me a short note with a link. But please don't paste a duplicate of the full text. Dylan Flaherty 01:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

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Destinero

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Hello there Daedalus: This is Nicholas Turnbull here, the enforcing administrator for Destinero's limited topic ban. I apologise that I wasn't able to comment on the AN/I discussion; I have been away working on a systems project, and it took place during that period of time.
First off, I would like to ask for your assistance in helping me to bring this rolling dispute to a close. I agree totally that Destinero's behaviour towards you has been uncivil. I believe your responses have, also, been uncivil, no matter how justified. I might point out that, if the actual article dispute has shifted to underlying civility issues rather than the nonsense about
WP:UNDUE
(which it seems to have done), we are, in fact, making progress. It isn't sensible to "fight fire with fire" when it comes to civility issues. I am sure that you have already noticed that Destinero is, in fact, a productive editor when 1) there is no POV issue at stake; and 2) there is nothing to keep him going in an extended argument. It is this latter, 2), that I need you to help me with; I have partly solved 1) by the ban that has been enacted, since Destinero's editing is now muzzled to prevent the majority of the issues that formerly would have caused him to be topic-banned entirely.
I am of the opinion that enacting a topic ban would make him more, and not less, belligerant; and, as such, would be the first step on a downward spiral to ArbCom. This nearly, but didn't quite, occur in the former Mediation Cabal LGBT parenting case, as Destinero -- in the final hour, as it were -- capitulated. I don't see any evidence to suggest a topic ban is either appropriate or necessary as, indeed, Destinero has adhered to the terms of his editing restrictions; frankly, if the only editing conflict left is about the inclusion of the word "consensus", I feel sure that Wikipedia (and the other article editors on the LGBT-related topics) will survive the blow. That an editor has editing restrictions against them does not increase the severity of sanctions for other matters, and the civility issues are not germane to the policy interpretation and POV matters that were the more serious problem.
So, will you help me here? When Destinero gets into the mode of posting huge, convoluted arguments full of links to sources, or does the whole lack of knowledge argument, etc.; could you simply, and unemotively, remind him to follow
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17:22, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm frankly not sure if that is possible. The whole experience with that crap has frankly pushed me away from that article. I don't feel I want to edit there, if I have to deal with that level of incivility, and nothing is done about it.— dαlus Contribs 20:38, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
I'd say that's probably for the best. I hope that Destinero ultimately feels the same way and edits elsewhere also; the other option is that he will end up being banned entirely from Wikipedia. We will see what ultimately transpires. --
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11:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

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Re: 142.162.192.210 and his ilk

Hi - thanks for the message. I'm a little slow on the uptake, trying to get back into the deep end of the pool again after an extended break from really active editing, so I apologize for the mixup. At least now I know about it, so if you have trouble with this guy's socks again I can help you without much further discussion. I'm glad you found another admin to take care of it this time. If you need further help, don't hesitate to ask. :-) (And in case you're wondering, yes, your user page is still the special page. I looked at the bug report marked 'fixed' - the whole thing's wild, isn't it? Yowza.) Thanks again for the message. :-) - KrakatoaKatie 09:31, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— dαlus Contribs 09:45, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Good grief - what a mess. 'How to Spread Your Interpersonal Problems Around The World In 5 Easy Steps' or something. If they keep doing this much longer I think the ban hammer might just come down. Disruption is disruption, you know? And they're certainly doing that. - KrakatoaKatie 09:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Replied on your talk page.— dαlus+ Contribs 10:50, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

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Hi Daedalus, I clicked on the "+" button on your sig just to see where it went. It brought me here, which isn't working for me. Have you tried this URL instead? Airplaneman 03:28, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Hm. Thanks, I'll fix it right now.— dαlus+ Contribs 04:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

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You Chung Hong

Template:Time ago2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. cymru lass (hit me up)(background check) 01:47, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Tildes

For what it's worth, I learned about the tildes pretty quickly when I started here. What I still had a lot to learn about was NPOV and fair-use and such as that. Nor did I know anything about administrative pages such as ANI. I began to be exposed to those entities as issues inevitably began to arise. That's why I get suspicious of "new" users who seem to know too much. Perhaps that's a personal bias, though. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:01, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

IP warned for 3RR

I've warned him, but you need to watch it also as it's easy to get a block for this.

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Accidental Comment Removal

Hey, what do you know? Perhaps Dylan's removal of LAEC's comment was inadvertent: witness this[1]. I don't personally see the greater value of restoring PrBeacon's comment (though it's up to you, and it seems like an accident): I think yet another WQA concerning civility would be

"not well received". But, to be fair and even-handed, maybe it should go back in. Cheers :> Doc talk
09:49, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

That's way too specific to be a mistake. If it was an edit conflict, or an error in the software, the entire comment would be removed, not just a portion.— dαlus+ Contribs 09:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
I see now I did that, restoring.— dαlus+ Contribs 09:55, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Weird, right? I saw him make the comment, groaned to myself about the possibility of another WQA, and went to respond - but it was gone. I saw he didn't revert it, and then saw what happened. There must be some kind of a glitch, and like the other case, it was one minute apart. Odd. Cheers :> Doc talk 10:11, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Whenever I hit an edit conflict, I copy what I wanted to post, carefully back up and then repost wholly from scratch. Gwen Gale (talk) 10:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Nuts, crazy, nonsense, insane...

Hello, I have replied to your message at User talk:Retro00064#Nuts, crazy, nonsense, insane..., in case you are interested. Regards. [|Retro00064|☎talk|✍contribs|] 00:51, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

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Response

I have zero interest in pursuing this further, but as a conscientious editor I'm obliged to tell you I responded to your comments on

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ANI

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Koch

Why did you remove the tags? I justified them on the talk page. Multiple editors agreed with me. ANI said they shouldn't be removed. DF certainly shouldn't be removing them, especially when he never responded to my talk-page concern. THF (talk) 03:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— dαlus+ Contribs 03:34, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry
case

Your name has been mentioned in connection with a

sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Daedalus969 for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!)
18:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

The guy files an SPI and then gets put in the stocks for a week good. There's a moral there someplace. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:19, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Smirnoff

"...page blocks you!" That's a good one. Can I use it? :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:58, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page; other than that, feel free to! :D — dαlus+ Contribs 20:03, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Done. An excellent addition to my collection of obscure quotes. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Talkback in case you aren't watching my page :)

edits
21:34, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

What do do?

I'm wondering if you would be willing to offer an opinion on this. It really puzzles me... the user most involved in those articles is trying to establish notability by sources such as [2] [3] [4]. He has a good point that the show has aired around the world. Yet, does that fact alone establish notability? Does it offer enough third party sources to make an article? BECritical__Talk 06:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Re the interaction ban between Mbz1 and yourself

Could you link / tell me what brought that about initially? unmi 22:02, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— dαlus+ Contribs 22:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

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OR on JR

I saw you say you like to look at OR problems. Would you mind taking a gander at possible OR on JR? --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling (talk) 06:36, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: Letting me know...

Well, actually whenever I say things in edit summaries I kind of expect them to be rhetorical questions, but thanks for the heads-up. Have a good holiday season, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 19:32, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

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forgot to sign ;) Gold Hat (talk) 18:06, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Request for comment

I would kindly ask that you close this as it has clearly served no purpose and is only inflaming the matter. AGF and move on, let it go and try not to interact with the editor again. I am not condoning nor condemning yours or the users actions I just think it would be better if we all moved on, Kind regards ZooPro 14:31, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's served no purpose because one of the involved editors hasn't found the time to comment on it. Until such time that they have, it isn't open, and is still pending. It isn't even transcluded anywhere. As all you have done in this dispute is so far refuse to talk to Kuguar about his behavior, it's hard to take anything you say as how you want it to be taken; you say you don't condone their behavior, yet your actions speak otherwise.— dαlus+ Contribs 21:33, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
You are very much mistaken in everything you have just said. I did comment on the behaviour and made suggestions. I find it highly insulting that you would consider my actions to be condoning any behaviour, I was and am a neutral third party. I find your current behaviour on par with Kuguar03's; you are assuming bad faith of me much the same way he/she did to you. ZooPro 13:55, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Not really. The fact of the matter is is that Ku still thinks they are in the right, and therefore the behavior will just repeat itself again. Just because they have 'dropped' one conflict, does not mean the spark that created the conflict has fizzled out. If an editor edit wars over material, and then never understands why 'everyone is telling them they were wrong to do so', they'll just do it again. There is no bad faith.— dαlus+ Contribs 20:59, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy, happy

Happy New Year, and all the best to you and yours! (from warm Cuba) Bzuk (talk) 15:53, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

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How

Hey, how did you add the tags with the use of twinkle as you did here? Is there a twinkle button i missed? Someone65 (talk) 23:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for reverting me. I was just going to do the same thing, but you just beat me to it. I've realized that it's not the category that's the issue, but the attention his socks give. HeyMid (contribs) 10:30, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy tenth anniversary of Wikipedia!

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Re: Notice regarding BLP

I do, and the link is dead, but I know this is true, because I've read the article. Wikipedia says to not remove sources just because links are dead, because as long as sourcing information is still there, it's still alright. The article went dead about a week ago, but a Google cache shows it still existed, and I am currently in the process of finding a physical copy of Blender. I really don't like that you didn't AGF here, Daedalus, or inquire about it. Yves (talk) 14:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

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Would you like your talk page semi-d for a while? --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— dαlus+ Contribs 21:41, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
done. also revdel'd a few edits. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:42, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you.— dαlus+ Contribs 21:45, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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