User talk:Ecrusized

Curbon7 (talk) 18:23, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 03:25, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On 21 April 2023,

2023 Sudan clashes, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Curbon7 (talk) 17:25, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply

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- L'Mainerque - (Disturb my slumber) - 21:06, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Ecrusized I would like to inform to you that both the edits that you listed were of reliable sources I had gathered (I was never affilated to the Russian government nor the Wagner Group, in fact I'm pretty much neutral in the conflict) This is disturbing of you mentioning it especially on my comment regarding changing the name having nothing to do for what you've said, I am a 6 month account on the platform, before not having an account I was a person that just used the platform frequently now I am a article creator and editor.

Thank you,

It seems that you are persistent in reinstating the vague or even irrelevant supported by claims. It's your onus to get consensus for addition of challenged material, since there is no consensus for that on the talk page yet, reliable or not is decided by consensus, not you. There are at least 3 other editors who don't agree with the claims, that's enough to remove the claims for now and wait for consensus if that is to be reinstated. There is literally only one source about support and that's barely enough, the rest is about support before conflict, which is totally irrelevant. RCB88 (talk) 12:47, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What software did you use to create File:Wagner Group mutiny.svg? I've been trying for days using Inkscape but I haven't been successful. Nythar (💬-🍀) 11:47, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nythar: It's a derivative of the file c:File:European Russia laea location map (without Crimea).svg. I have filled the selected oblasts where the clashes are going on with Inkscape. Don't forget to unlock the layers if this is what you're struggling with. Ecrusized (talk) 11:51, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. IanDBeacon (talk) 18:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose this would work better coming from somebody who isn't me, but FWIW... and I'm speaking as someone on Wikipedia for ~17 years not the person disagreeing with you at the moment, but in general, waving around 3RR works best if you're not also part of the edit war. Basically, 3RR is a way to tell other editors that they're crossing the line when you yourself aren't participating in the edit war. When two editors in an edit war accuse each other of violating 3RR, the response is inevitably "you're both wrong" from others. 3RR is meant as a bright-line, you should have already stopped sooner deal, especially because counting what the "first" revert is is often tricky. (I had no idea you had written that content when I removed it and wasn't doing so out of an agenda or anything, so as far as I'm concerned, you're the one about to hit 3RR not me... but I'm sure you'd say the same in reverse, and what an outsider would say is "you should both stop.") Additionally, content on the main page has a somewhat softer 3RR rule, although it's best not to rely on this.

The part I am really relying on is

Anyway, I didn't want to distract from the merits of the discussion on the article talk page (and think you probably should have left a comment on my personal talk page if you were genuinely concerned about 3RR rather than the article talk page), hence responding here. And for what it's worth, I hope I don't come across as too hostile here! However, I've dealt with some editors who were... crazy... in the past who'd just claim they had consensus no matter how much overwhelming evidence was against them, so you're (accidentally?) invoking some of that bad feelings. (Like, I'm talking really bad faith stuff, as in sockpuppets and them all getting banned. But they'd try to appeal to passerby by saying "Oh, SnowFire is editing against consensus" despite 5 real editors telling them to stop and 5 sockpuppets telling them that they were fantastic.) SnowFire (talk) 18:53, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SnowFire: As far as I know 3RR automatically makes someone who crossed the line blockable, if that's not the case than I'm wrong. However, in the past when I entered a similar disagreement with editors, administrators would warn whoever had crossed 3RR to self revert or face a block. Also I got the impression that user Alalch E. had agreed with me due to his comments and editing pattern. You aren't hostile in your comments but I would have preferred had you self reverted until others had entered the discussion. Ecrusized (talk) 19:01, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. -Lemonaka‎ 11:49, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Just curious. What's your reasoning behind changing "Internal Security Forces" to "Asayish" in October 2023 Northern Syria clashes ? CatmanBw (talk) 18:02, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm away from my main computer, so I can't get to this right now, but Palestinian militants have been arrested in Ein HaShlosha and Nahal Oz, so those communities should be added to include the presence of Palestinian militants. -- Veggies (talk) 18:28, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veggies: Added but I can't find a source for Nahal Oz, do you have a source for this? Ecrusized (talk) 18:48, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, sorry. I meant to include it. [1] -- Veggies (talk) 18:52, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for keeping up with the map. Could you tell me how you got the OpenTopoMap data onto the map? Thanks. -- Veggies (talk) 05:01, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be so insistent, but I'd really love to know. I can't get OpenTopoMap to export anything and I don't want to try to do it via patchy screenshots. -- Veggies (talk) 21:17, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veggies: Hi, sorry I didn't notice the message yesterday. I simply create it by taking multiple screen shots and then merging those images together in GIMP. I have already made one for Israel-Lebanon-Syria border in case war spreads to the north. Here is the .png for it. Ecrusized (talk) 21:23, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yeah, I was afraid that was the only way. Oh well. And, yes, I was looking to make one for the same sector. Looks like you beat me to it. 👍 -- Veggies (talk) 22:06, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, I created an SVG map for the Lebanese/Northern Israel theater. File:Israel-Lebanon-Syria-border-Conflict-2023.svg Let me know your thoughts. I'll include it in the appropriate section in the war article. -- Veggies (talk) 15:37, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veggies: Looks good, I was also in the midst filling the same region. You should upload this one on Wikipedia, I'll performs updates when needed. Besides that, one problem I found is that due to the large size of the original .png, the compression results in considerable artifacting. This becomes especially noticeable when zoomed in. I've used GIMP to compress it with minimal quality loss. Another alternative would be to upload the file as .png without any loss but this would prevent users from translating the file. I personally favor having a .svg instead of a .png. Let me know what you think. Ecrusized (talk) 16:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is thus far, I've kept the 24bit ratio on the jpeg instead of using 8bit, but brought the quality down to 84, smoothness to 25 and set subsampling to 4:2:0. Ecrusized (talk) 16:53, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Where'd you get the spellings and locations of the towns on the map? They're different from the ones I used and the ones Wikipedia uses. -- Veggies (talk) 23:37, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veggies: I got them from Google Maps. Ecrusized (talk) 07:54, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Qiryat Shemona). -- Veggies (talk) 13:31, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

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@Veggies: I’ll work to restore Wikipedia names in the next edit. Ecrusized (talk) 15:15, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated the names with Wikipedia names. Also there is something I should mention, when editing the file, saving as Inkscape .svg will increase its size to over 10mb, for this reason you should save it as optimized svg, if using Inkscape. Ecrusized (talk) 21:28, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

​Thanks for all your help. I tried to add the name of a moshav in the original Gaza-area map per a request on Commons talk, but I think I screwed something up. I'm still learning how to work with Inkscape. Someone wanted the name of Yakhini added, which is fine, but when I uploaded the SVG file, it created a mess in the thumbnail, so I quickly reverted. Could you tell me what I did wrong? Thanks again. -- Veggies (talk) 06:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veggies: Translated .svg are a bit problematic when editing with Inkscape. I'm not sure what went wrong with your edit but generally, trying to copy paste location names will cause them to disappear due to being "switches" instead of regular text. Ecrusized (talk) 08:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

​What's the solution? Should I just write the name out in Inkscape and save as optimized SVG? How did you fix it? -- Veggies (talk) 15:06, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Veggies: I created a new text (T key) in the same font and size as the rest. Also saved as plain svg. Ecrusized (talk) 15:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

​I understand that User:Supreme Deliciousness says Gjajar hasn't been evacuated, but it should still be included in the evacuation zone. Israel has designated the town as one to be evacuated even if they're not forcibly evacuating people. After all, many people who live in the evacuation zone also refuse to leave. -- Veggies (talk) 04:58, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aside from what user Supreme Deliciousness has stated, there is another plus in not having Gajar included in the evacuation zone. It allows the Israeli-controlled Golan Heights to be viewed in full, otherwise it gets divided with the separation color. Ecrusized (talk) 08:05, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please somehow differentiate the Israeli figures of losses from the confirmed Palestinian ones, for example draw a line and put it under the 3 points? Onesgje9g334 (talk) 11:07, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Super Ninja2 and WP:NOTGETTINGIT. Thank you. The Kip 22:53, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, this edit summary doesn't make any sense. The edit I made was unrelated to the topic of the RFC you referenced, which is about how to reference the infobox in terms of notes, in-line attribution, etc., but not related to the content-based edits that I made, which was purely to differentiate military and civilian casualties, as described.

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purpose of the infobox, which is supposed to be a brief summary, instead of an overwhelming list. Ecrusized (talk) 11:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Iskandar323 (talk) 11:07, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

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It might be better to place a percentage tag, such as 65% civilians etc. As in the infoboxes of

former Gaza-Israel conflicts, instead of placing increasingly large figures in the infobox. Ecrusized (talk) 11:09, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Additionally I don't like placing

weasel words such as "mostly" or "largely" anywhere in Wikipedia. Ecrusized (talk) 11:11, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

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The percentages are just as subject to change as the raw numbers surely, and would need updating just as regularly? "majority" was simply the best option in my mind for asserting the known known, which is that upwards of 5,000 going on 6,000 of those killed are discernably not armed men of fighting age.

Iskandar323 (talk) 11:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

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If anything, "majority" is conservative. It's minimum 73.9% civilians, which is nearly two-thirds and more than a super majority - and that's assuming (implausibly) that every man is a fighter.

Iskandar323 (talk) 11:25, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

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On both sides of the conflict, civilians seem to make at least two thirds of the casualties. Readers are able to read the exact figure inside the article, infobox should not be expanded more than it already is in my opinion. Ecrusized (talk) 11:34, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, in most military conflict page infoboxes, the combatant sections are usually (and are designed to be) reserved solely for military casualties, with civilian casualties appearing below in the combatant 3 part, e.g.

Iskandar323 (talk) 11:45, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Iskandar323: I see, I've undone the edit. Ecrusized (talk) 10:11, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply

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FYI, for future reference, from a procedural perspective, you can't really close a discussion as "Not moved" and then move it. If, as a closer, you think that there is consensus to move the page away from the current title, it should be "moved" and the essay worth referencing is

Iskandar323 (talk) 11:13, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply

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