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Sahara
in the deletions page log thing, it said it had been settled as not going to be deleted, so I removed the tag????Engineman (talk) 22:00, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, Fayenatic London. I don't quite understand this edit of yours. Could you please explain the deletion of the Emerson LaSalle hoax to me? Thanks. — CactusWriter | needles 14:07, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- Sure. It was by Special:Contributions/Indefiniteintegral, all of whose new articles known to me – Leibniz function, Leibniz differential, Fermat differentiation, La'kalai and Aru'kiruna – were hoaxes. Somehow I miscalculated and thought the time and dates that he recorded for Emerson LaSalle did not correspond, although in fact they do (oops). I therefore guessed that the hoax had not been there as long as he said. I see you're an Admin; if you can confirm the creation date for that article, I will be happy to reinstate it in the list with apologies. - Fayenatic (talk)
- No problem. The Emerson LaSalle article was created 27 November 2007, at 22:36 by User:Gorjus. Thanks for keeping a watchful eye out for hoaxes. — CactusWriter | needles 16:33, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
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I canceled your Merge proposal. Please see the
- Good call. I might do that, if you don't do it first. - Fayenatic (talk) 08:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
- There is a (slight) chance that a legit bio can be written. I've asked others to look into it too. There is plenty of legendary material available (of very predictable, stereotype quality - one could almost say it's a genre), the problem is figuring out how much - actually, how little - has a factual substratum that can be reliably sourced. People who haven't seen this kind of "literature" before can be taken in, and have been. rudra (talk) 17:35, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Massacre of the Innocents
How about this: [[1]]?? Springnuts (talk) 11:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Your deletion of my addition to Three Wise Monkeys
Hi! I noted that you deleted the note I added to Three Wise Monkeys suggesting a possible origin of the original Chinese maxim in Hebrew literature and documenting a plausible mechanism for its migration into China. Can you explain your motive for this deletion? With the earliest referenced Chinese instance of the maxim in the 8th century, and both Christian and Jewish presence documented in China well before that, it seems to me that this hypothesis is entirely plausible. Isaiah's form of the saying aligns extremely well with the iconography of the carving on the stable at Tosho-Gu in Nikko:
Isa 33:15 that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;
The last two fit perfectly; the first is not represented on the shrine, but is reflected in the four-clause version of the underlying maxim cited in the article.
Capturing possible cross-cultural linkages like this that might not be noted by any single author is, it seems to me, one of the great strengths of Wikipedia. It is a fact that similar sayings circulated in the Levant and in China, and linkages between the two areas in the correct chronological sequence (between the origin of Isaiah's version, and the first appearance of the Chinese version) are well documented. Can you explain why you didn't want to let stand a note calling readers' attention to the possibility of a connection? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Van Parunak (talk • contribs) 17:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
NALGO
I don't object to the article being moved to the later name - but it would have been good if you had asked for opinions first. Never mind - we'll see if anyone else objects. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:27, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- The page name did not match the subject shown in bold in the first line; it should, see ]
Re: three monkeys
Hi, thanks for your very thoughtful reply. After posting my comment, I noted the somewhat cryptic reference to "original research", and guessed that this might be the problem. I agree with the intent of the policy, though I need to get calibrated on what constitutes "original research." I should have thought that citing a primary source that aligns verbally with what is being discussed in an article would be within bounds--but as a newbie, I'm happy to be corrected!
Perhaps you can give guidance on how to proceed. In terms of reliable sources, I think I qualify (PhD from Harvard in Near Eastern Languages and Literatures with specialization in the Old Testament, 1977). The observation in question is so specific that I doubt I could find a journal interested in it (though if you can suggest one, I'll write it up). But the idea occurred to me in the course of an ongoing exposition of Isaiah in which I'm involved, and which is publicly available on-line (http://www.cyber-chapel.org/sermons/isaiah/index.html; the observation in question appears in footnote 6 on p. 8 of http://www.cyber-chapel.org/sermons/isaiah/notes/Isaiah33.pdf . Is such a reference sufficient to serve as a citation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Van Parunak (talk • contribs) 14:57, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hi again. I know there is other stuff of the kind, but it gets challenged and eventually removed. For instance, the personal theories at Jesus wept #Interpretationall need to go, except for Warfield's which states the author (an established exegete) and provides a citation. I've been meaning to put in some stuff from respected commentaries and delete the rest.
- In the light of http://www.cyber-chapel.org/about.html I do not think it would be possible to demonstrate sufficient academic peer review. The sermons on that website appear to be the work of yourself or others closely associated with you.
- citing oneself. Regardless of whether I agree with your theory, unless and until you get it printed in an academically-reviewed Bible commentary or similar, I don't think there is a way to publish it here.
- However, please consider joining WikiProject Bible, or one of the others listed at Portal:Christianity/Projects, as there is a lot of substantial and more valuable work to be done! - Fayenatic (talk) 20:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)]
Apology to User:Satori Son
In case you see this, I apologise for giving offence. We're both working hard to improve this encyclopedia; in fact my edit count is
You wrote that you were not sure what I was implying about you. I only meant that we would both be better off improving articles than trading remarks. Most of your edits to the article in question are justified and I did not attempt to revert them. Anyway, thanks for forcing me to track down a demonstrable
]- I just came her to let you know I had apologized to you on my page, too. Obviously, we both want what's best for the project, but I was being a complete jerk. I'll try my very best to not let a bad day bleed over into Wikispace again. — Satori Son 23:32, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
POV tags
hi. the luis palau template refers to the fact that the article portrays him as a liberal out-of-the-box preacher, which is debatable, and that he has been involved in some controversies that are not even mentioned. the other one, refers to only one section which seems to always give the last word to the foundation side.--camr nag 00:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
- Please reply at Talk:Emmanuel Schools Foundation#Article Issues. - Fayenatic (talk) 17:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Muriel
Thank you many times, Fayenatic london. Have a great day! --
Barnstar
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For rooting out hoaxes in even the most obscure corners of Wikipedia. Your efforts are seen and appreciated. — CactusWriter | needles 00:01, 17 April 2010 (UTC) |
I don't know if you keep barnstars around, but this was an interesting find. — CactusWriter | needles 00:01, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the award! I was amazed to find that the para had been around for so long, partly because it had even been embellished (apparently in good faith) along the way! - Fayenatic (talk) 12:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Muriel a andělé
Thanks Victuallers (talk) 00:04, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
ref name
Hi, I havent seen that before it was made by using http://toolserver.org/~dispenser/view/Reflinks seems that has made error or something --Typ932 T·C 02:28, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I saw where you've done some editing to this article. I've tried to cut it down some, mainly to remove the peacock terms and other brochure-like marketing material. I'm also concerned that much of the recently added material was copied straight from a book and not re-worded to avoid copyright issues. I've taken a stab at cleaning it up some, but would appreciate another set of eyes. Thanks! TNXMan 13:44, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I don't have access to the book so I've left the plagiarism tag, but I've deleted & revised a lot more and was content to remove the other tags. Have a look now. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:31, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- Please do review the plagiarism tag, as I thought the article was worth for DYK! - Fayenatic (talk) 18:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- The improvements look great! All of the weasel words and spam are gone and we are left with quite an impressive bio. Thanks again for cleaning this up. TNXMan 19:33, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Glad you agree! Sometimes a COI contributor + an experienced editor can make a decent article. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks to everyone who contributed to improving this page with helpful edits. Thanks for nominating the page to appear in the "Did you know" section; I am a new contributor to Wikipedia and it's been an encouraging learning experience. Hopefully, I've addressed the [expand] and [specify] tags adequately. - Mbtso (talk) 22:01, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Glad you agree! Sometimes a COI contributor + an experienced editor can make a decent article. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
- The improvements look great! All of the weasel words and spam are gone and we are left with quite an impressive bio. Thanks again for cleaning this up. TNXMan 19:33, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome, and yes you have! By the way I should not have implied that you necessarily have a conflict of interest (although some previous single-purpose accounts editing that article alone did give that impression). - Fayenatic (talk) 22:07, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Coronation Street theme
Hi Fayenatic London: We have The Mail on Sunday Story. How should we proceed. Monika London (talk) 13:13, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Theraplay
I am puzzled by your merge of this article with Play Therapy. They are not remotely the same thing. Should this not be discussed first?Fainites barleyscribs 21:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- The first line of the article Theraplay said that it uses play therapy, so they are not as remote as you suggest. I explained both in my edit summary and at Talk:Theraplay what I was doing and why. If you have the time to create a better article on Theraplay, with citations, that would be good, and I would be willing to help with formatting etc. Note that I added another online source on the effectiveness of Theraplay to the bibliography in Play Therapy, which had been given on the talk page. - Fayenatic (talk) 08:15, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well play therapy is a mainstream generic therapeutic tool. "Theraplay" is a named, specific therapy with Capital Letters. I suppose the main difference is that play therapy is broadly non-directive and theraplay is very specifically directive. Theraplay is also somewhat controversial. There are issues around the use of touch and holding and it gets promoted by those practising the extremely controversial Attachment therapy. However, it has alos been used in the Head Start programme. I don't know a huge amount about myself but there have been issues in the past here with some editors trying to name it as an "Attachment therapy" and others claiming it is mainstream and evidence based and not an "Attachment therapy" at all. Probably neither view point is either fair or neutral but certainly none of these views, issues and controversies relate to simple play therapy. It is certainly not as simple as saying it should be merged simply because it says it utilises play therapy or is a bit of a stubby article. Can you please un-merge it and restore the status quo so the matter can be fully discussed on the talk page. I would propose to seek the opinion of psychology project members. There are several there who have expertise in the area of infant mental health. I think I did dig up some sources about research at some point a while back but there wasn't an awful lot. I'll see if I can find anything else.Fainites barleyscribs 10:00, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Also - if your concern is lack of citations, that is just as much a problem with putting the material into the play therapy article is it not? The play therapy references do not cite/support Theraplay but it may well create the impression that it does. Do mainstream therapists accept the tenets of Theraplay? I've found this source in a 2008 book here which gives a lot of detail about research conducted a while ago in Germany and Austria. I agree the article needs a lot of work, but I don't think merging with play therapy is the answer.Fainites barleyscribs 10:07, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Well play therapy is a mainstream generic therapeutic tool. "Theraplay" is a named, specific therapy with Capital Letters. I suppose the main difference is that play therapy is broadly non-directive and theraplay is very specifically directive. Theraplay is also somewhat controversial. There are issues around the use of touch and holding and it gets promoted by those practising the extremely controversial Attachment therapy. However, it has alos been used in the Head Start programme. I don't know a huge amount about myself but there have been issues in the past here with some editors trying to name it as an "Attachment therapy" and others claiming it is mainstream and evidence based and not an "Attachment therapy" at all. Probably neither view point is either fair or neutral but certainly none of these views, issues and controversies relate to simple play therapy. It is certainly not as simple as saying it should be merged simply because it says it utilises play therapy or is a bit of a stubby article. Can you please un-merge it and restore the status quo so the matter can be fully discussed on the talk page. I would propose to seek the opinion of psychology project members. There are several there who have expertise in the area of infant mental health. I think I did dig up some sources about research at some point a while back but there wasn't an awful lot. I'll see if I can find anything else.Fainites barleyscribs 10:00, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
As the "I added" link above shows, I did add citations and links for Theraplay when I merged it, although I didn't check every part of what I merged. If you know better, feel free to undo or edit what I've done to
I would agree that Theraplay, like any "proprietary" treatment, should be discussed separately from a general approach. If it doesn't go into a separate article, it should be set off in its own section, so it' s clear to readers that these are not simply synonyms. In this case, by the way, it would probably be wise to look at ways play therapy is used by psychologists and how those compare to its use by OTs, special education providers, etc. Also, it would be good to discuss "Floortime" (which looks much like play therapy at first glance) and note what the differences are. Jean Mercer (talk) 00:04, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Happy List
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Chauncey KirbyReplied on my talk with links. I think you could go ahead with the move if you like. Happy editingOttawa4ever (talk) 20:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC) DYK for Gregory Henriquez
Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC) Thank you!That was a nice surprise. :-) Flatterworld (talk) 19:21, 14 May 2010 (UTC) Conflicted licensing on image File:Li Lili 1930s.jpgThe above noted image or media file appears to have conflicted licensing. As an image cannot be both 'free' and 'unfree', a check of the exact status of this media/image concerned is advised.Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:43, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Insomnia Coffee CompanyEntered some impartial informational and reference... =] --NorthernCounties (talk) 21:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC) DYK for Office for Budget Responsibility
— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC) RE WelcomeFayenatic - many thanks for the welcome message. I am trying to get the feel of Wikipedia by doing some basic edits to the history section of company pages; you may have noticed that so far they are all in the construction industry. I have noticed that many entries are written without reference to mainstream published work. I have looked at the style guide and that seems broadly in line with such standards as Hart's Rules and the Economist Style Guide. The technical requirements of inputting seem very complicated at this stage but I think I have now mastered links and references. Next stop is talking to people so I hope this message has been done in the correct manner. Regards Bebington (talk) 12:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC) Re: Infobox UK schoolLooks like someone else fixed it before I woke up :) Good shout though, thanks. I fixed another issue - we may well be there now. - Jarry1250 [Who? Discuss.] 08:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC) Re: COA SolutionsJust a quick thanks for the edits you made, saved me a job although I've updated the page again now with more information and the new logo..cheers Saigon2010 (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC) SRKHello Fayenatic, Not sure what is going on at ]
Hi. As you recently commented in the Off2riorob (talk) 23:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC) ]
GAR notificationAn article that you have been involved in editing, Igor Panarin has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments here . If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. PwC Name ChangeNoticed you changed PricewaterhouseCoopers to PwC. I'm not sure if that is the right move as "PwC" is really only a branding and not the official legal name of the network or member firms. Example, the US firm is still legally PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP but uses PwC in branding material. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crkey (talk • contribs) 00:10, 4 October 2010
Paul KemsleyHiya--I have a comment about the edits to Paul Kemsley's page. I randomly know a lot about Paul Kemsley and have a couple suggestions to the revisions for what is written. I may not be doing them correctly because I'm new to the whole thing so if you have any suggestions, would welcome the advice. He actually won the lawsuit against Spreadex and Green never offered to lend him money--that's just heresay. I don't have formal sources, hope that's not a problem. "However, in September 2008 he placed a series of large bets that doomed US bank Lehman Brothers would recover, and in May 2009 the spread betting company Spreadex took legal action against him, claiming that he was liable to pay a margin call of £2 million. His friend Green was reported as offering to lend him the money to meet the call.[6]" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluegreen5 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Jehovah-shammahThanks for your work on this article. It is much improved.Editor2020 (talk) 20:29, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Poplar HospitalThanks for sorting out the wrong info I added about the hospital. That's what comes of relying upon imperfect old memories and not sources! Anyway, I looked it up and - having seen I was wrong - went to revert my edit but saw you'd done so and added the correct details. It was a quite a place (never was a patient but visited a few times). Plutonium27 (talk) 04:15, 28 November 2010 (UTC) Scottish WidowsI would remind you of the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:External_links#What_should_be_linked 11.Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority. (This exception for blogs, etc, controlled by recognized authorities is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for people.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people) The topic of an article should be notable, or "worthy of notice"; that is, "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reasonability_Rule Administrators must be diligent in observing the Reasonability Rule when enforcing policy. Is it reasonable to conclude, by using Wikipedia policies, that a particular article should be deleted? The webpage at http://www.happywarrior.org/widows/widows01.htm is a factual description of a significant event which affects millions of people. The only criteria you seem to apply is that it is unfavourable to the organization. Are they paying you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.236.207 (talk) 09:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
London Wikimedia FundraiserGood evening! This is a friendly message from haybale amphitheatre and more. If you're interested in coming - and we'd love to have you - please go to the ten.wikipedia page and follow the link to the Facebook event. Signing up on Facebook will add you to the party guestlist. Entry fee is a heavily subsidised £5 and entry is restricted to over 18s. It promises to be a 10th birthday party to remember! If you have any questions, please email me at chasemewiki at gmail.com.
Hope we'll see you there, (and apologies for the talk page spam) - Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 22:52, 12 December 2010 (UTC) MatharuHi Fayenatic london
Anyway to my mind the talk page has as much significance as "the page " .
When someone (as for instance the user called Sikh-history) begins to even delete discussion on a talk page then we really do need to sit up and take notice .
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