Thank you for creating Fonso. Keep up the good work, Kingturtle (talk) 14:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Manuel (Horse
Could you please cite that last sentence about the death of the horse, also maybe a cite for the contents of the info box. Thanks. Cliffsteinman (talk) 04:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Eclipse/Champion
Good work doing the KD winner articles. Re your edit to
Thoroughbred Heritage retrospective Champions of the Turf from their website. Re the cite request above for Infoboxs. We use the horse's profile found at Pedigree Query. Also, if you like, you can get the other races won by all Derby winners here by typing in the year they won. Handicapper (talk) 17:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply
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Your John E. Madden article is a well done and valuable addition to the Thoroughbred racing project. Handicapper (talk) 19:02, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I mentioned the article to another Project member. Here's what he said about it: [1]Handicapper (talk) 17:31, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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The race length for those two maiden runs was in furlongs (1 mile = 8 furlongs) as opposed to miles like the other races. A thought the reader might like to know how long a furlong is compared to miles or km since the official chart lists the distance in furlongs.Froggerlaura (talk) 21:52, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What about making finish 9/12 instead of just 9 to show how large the fields were.--
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Good morning, Froggerlaura, I just want to say 'wow'! what a fantastic job sprucing up the Kyrle Bellew site. I hope some of the links/cites I had added helped. It knocked me off my feet when I logged on this morning. His photo is great. I didn't know all the info on Eugenie and the nature of their marriage, but it'll be great reading. All I can give is praise. Thanks again. Koplimek (talk) 13:12, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Theropod paleopathology
I've responded to your objections to the DYK nomination of Theropod paleopathology. I don't think they were entirely accurate and fair. Abyssal (talk) 18:23, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm replying right now. Abyssal (talk) 00:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm in the process of rewriting some stuff now. :) Abyssal (talk) 01:07, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've completed a preliminary polishing. Abyssal (talk) 04:43, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I think I have addressed most issues posed. First off, I really like the alternate hook, besides sounding less clunky (as I think you put it), it also sounds a bit more interesting as well! I have overhauled some sections that reviewers had mentioned may have issues with them, refined the sources quite a bit, fixed over-linking, and I added the source you had recommended (GREAT SOURCE BY THE WAY!). Let me know if there are any other concerns, and I will fix them immediately :). Thank you again for taking the time to review this article, your time is greatly appreciated! --Kgw2 (talk) 16:28, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will address this issue immediately and let you know once it has been resolved. Thank you for your fast input on what needs to be addressed still! --Kgw2 (talk) 20:29, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just as an update, work has been done to the final two issues you had brought up. Provided nothing different occurs in the next 3 days, the discussion over the move will be closed on the 10th, and hopefully this article will be good to go for the DYK. Thanks again for all your help with this article! I will update you on the 10th as to the conclusion of the discussion of the move etc. --Kgw2 (talk) 18:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hey sorry to bother you but I though I would check, for a cite that we used say 50 pages on, if, for instance, we used something like pages 90-92 for one source, and 132-133 for another, would I just want to make that 2 separate citations even though it is the same source? Also thank you again for all the helpful notes you have given us, they REALLY improved the article a tremendous amount! --Kgw2 (talk) 07:06, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks very much for adding the picture to this article. It's a big improvement. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 20:37, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And thanks for adding good old Alfred E. Watson's info on Grand Geraldine. He also wrote a book for Alfred W. Cox which I used for the Lemberg article. I like your use of "met with limited success" as a polite way of saying "almost totally useless". Tigerboy1966 (talk) 01:48, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all your help with the Derby winners. All the redlinks now gone. 27 days, 48 articles, 670,000 bytes. Phew!Tigerboy1966 (talk) 20:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Misplaced sarcasm
Oops. Sorry for that. I had missed it since it came before a question on another nomination and I had only responded to it. Once again, I apologize (and thank you for the relatively good humor with which you handled it). Daniel Case (talk) 18:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Caractacus, Lord Lyon and Ladas
Excellent work on Caractacus- A True Underdog Story, and well-told.
If you are ready for another project, could I suggest Lord Lyon who has a sort of "sore thumb" quality to his redlink.
I have put Ladas up for GA so any contributions/additions/modifications would be welcome.Tigerboy1966 (talk) 17:47, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The barnstar for sports-related articles. For your outstanding work on Thoroughbred racing, especially for creating the article on Caractacus and the epic on Lord Lyon. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 14:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Blink Bonny
Another cry for help/ research problem. Tbheritage have Blink Bonny running twice as a four-year-old and winning once. I had no problem finding the defeat, (pulled up at Goodwood) but I've had no luck finding the win. Maybe a walkover or a match where the other runner forfeited? Tigerboy1966 (talk) 18:32, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. The Goodwood report does make it sound like a "first and last" appearance. I did notice that you made a sub-page for resources, which is very useful. Also thanks for the extra details on Queen Mary and "Little Jack" Charlton. Good job on Prince Leopold as well, although I can't say I enjoyed reading it- it's a sad story. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 01:47, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I've just noticed that there is an article walkover, which isn't very well sourced but does at least explain the concept clearly and should therefore save a few key-strokes. I've added it to Eleanor. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 16:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your work on the Laminitis article. Upon looking at that radiograph and comparing it to one I have at home, I think the original uploader (not you) put the gray line for the hoof wall too far out. I jumped onto Google for some non-free images, and these might show you what I mean. [2], [3], [4], [5], etc... But I don't have photoshop and when I've tried to annotate photos in the past it's been a bust, so do you want to take a try at tweaking the image? Montanabw(talk) 16:29, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I bet you know this anyway but... the practice of all horses having their official birthday on 1 January only dates from 1834. Before that it was 1 May- at least at Newmarket. It can make some reports a bit confusing: runners at the Newmarket Craven meeting (more important then than now), often seem to have the "wrong" ages. TbHeritage got a bit confused by this.[6] I have included an explanation with a (print) ref in the Spaniel article.Tigerboy1966 (talk) 07:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Frederick, Cadland
As we are getting close to overlapping now, I thought I'd mention that the above are my next two targets for creation, if that's OK. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 23:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds great. I'm planning on starting from the beginning and working forward. Not much info on the early ones though. Froggerlaura (talk) 23:25, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Currently working on Pan, who stayed in training till he was nine, ending his career running in "egg-and-spoon" races at Basingstoke, so he will take a while. After that I was going to do Sam. I have left Whisker for you as you did his brother Whalebone, so you should have a start there. I have also left you Gustavus as you say on your user page that you like grays. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 01:54, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
When I said that I'd "left" them for you I didn't mean it to sound like I was trying to
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Not at all. I'll take on the last Waxy brother and Gustavus (still have a thing for grays :), have eyes for Assassin and Election too due to connection with Egremont. The horses in the 1780s are going to be hard to do, not many sources. Froggerlaura (talk) 02:21, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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This is to thank you for finding and adding a picture of Blucher. Moonraker (talk) 10:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC) ... and another of Skyscraper. Moonraker (talk) 00:45, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(NB, I recognized the engraving and was able to add some more details of it.) Moonraker (talk) 10:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to nominate it for a GA, I'll be happy to review it for you.♦ Dr. Blofeld 01:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good job, thanks for the fixes.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:54, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If there's anymore you want to nominate like Copenhagen (horse), let me know. We have an inadequate number of horse related GAs. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:35, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Caps
Just sent a polite message to BabelStone about capitalisation of Thoroughbred. Hopefully s/he will stop "correcting" articles. Tigerboy1966 00:52, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
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I will take a break from article creation for a bit and work on expanding stubs and improving articles- it seems a bit odd that our recent project left the likes of Cardinal Beaufort, John Bull et al with more substantial articles than West Australian, Gladiateur and other acknowledged "greats". Well done for GA on Waxy. Tigerboy1966 22:10, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I agree. I will get Hermit and Blue Gown up to par, look kind of shabby compared to their neighbors now. Froggerlaura (talk) 23:52, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Swap you Gladiateur for Hermit. I have already got some material together on Chaplin's colt. Tigerboy1966 01:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Sure, probably going to take me awhile to get to. Froggerlaura (talk) 01:52, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I just want to draw your attention to this article I have begun, prompted by the picture you uploaded. I seem to have run out of things to say and it is still too short for DYK. If you could make it long enough, I'd be happy to credit you jointly. Moonraker (talk) 00:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll certainly take a look and see if I can add anything; the fact that he is the ancestor of all grey Thoroughbreds is definitely be DYK-worthy. It would be worth asking User:Froggerlaura as well. The records from those days are very thin as you know. I do know that the horse got a mention in an episode of QI, which could probably be added. Tigerboy1966 00:47, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
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For all your hard work and diligence in improving the citations and content for the article on Johnny Basham. I salute you. FruitMonkey (talk) 17:51, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just to let you know. If parts of this article seem strangely familiar it's because the section on her breeding background is more or less a copy and paste (with names changed) from the article you authored on her big brother, Lord Lyon. Achievement was probably slightly better as a racehorse, but had a much less happy retirement. Thanks also for your recent work on DYK nominations. Tigerboy1966 18:30, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
No problem, just mention if it goes to DYK that the section is from another article (some reviewers have gotten their knickers in a twist recently over this issue). The other sections meet the length requirements, so shouldn't be a problem. I'll try to help out the Didelot hook. Thinking about doing Parisot, which won Oaks for Standish in same year, but got distracted by her rather scandalous namesake. (Didelot, like Parisot, most likely named after Charles Didelot the dancer- Standish seemed to have a ballet theme going- no source unfortunately). Froggerlaura (talk) 19:06, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Brown George not the Derby winner
And here's the clincher-[7]- Goodisson's Fidget gelding running as Brown George in 1800. I had seen Brown George in the GSB, but ruled him out as he was named. A pox on the Duke of Bedford for causing all the confusion! I would have thought that giving names to your horses was part of the fun. Tigerboy1966 16:54, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
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For the record, Froggerlaura, I don't think your particular piece of the puzzle is where the breakdown in process was. The community is trying to define why they thought it was wrong, and what could be done to prevent it. But, this was almost certainly an error of editorial judgement, not an error of content review, which is what you did. Maybe Miyagawa shouldn't have submitted the hook in the first place, but almost certainly the admins who placed the hook should adjust their strategy. As a reviewer, it's possible that you could have thought, "Hey, does this really belong on DYK?" but aren't you mostly just checking it for accuracy and that it meets the rules? --Laser brain(talk) 18:45, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
True, reviewing is mostly for accuracy and rules/copyvio check but in retrospect I should have fielded it to ITN or another venue (I think the outrage was multiplied ten-fold by the unfortunate queue placing and being in a UK daytime slot). Froggerlauraribbit 18:52, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks so much for all your help in getting this article up to snuff. The ghostly grey gets his big day on the main page after all these years. Filling up a bit just thinking about it. I sort of got fed up with the article after writing the basic version and hitting brick walls when I looked for sources. Do check out today's Irish 1,000 Guineas if you get the chance. Homecoming Queen vs La Collina could be a very special race. Tigerboy1966 12:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations on this, a good article. I hope you don't mind my additions. On Parisot's disappearance from the record, the farther back we go the more this happens. I had a similar experience not long ago when writing an article on an early film star, Daisy Burrell, who was born in 1893. Moonraker (talk) 23:01, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the additions! She seems to have dropped off the map in Britain and France. I'll be on the lookout for Daisy info. Froggerlauraribbit 13:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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For wonderful work on Mademoiselle Parisot, bringing a smile to my face and I'm sure to thousands of others. More, please! Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:22, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Thanks for tweaking the translation. I had fun on that one. Froggerlauraribbit 03:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I know, but the spam blocker would not let me put the missing -- in the line. Froggerlauraribbit 02:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I finally got round to doing this one, but I haven't added it to all the articles yet. Tigerboy1966 23:51, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like we have a very promising new editor on Horse Racing history: see the new articles on Orme, Bona Vista, 1886 Epsom Derby plus a big expansion of Ormonde. I'm trying to give him lots of encouragement without giving the impression that I'm peeking over his shoulder. Take a look. Tigerboy1966 22:08, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Have changed article to deal with issues concerning significant paraphrasing[9] + [10] + [11]
Can you see when you have the time is the article now acceptable Finnegas (talk) 18:35, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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DYK for Barney Ruditsky
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Corinne
Thanks for adding the details of the later stud career of Neva (horse). With crushing predictability I have now done Corinne (horse), and I was hoping you could do something similar for this article. And yes it will be Zinc (horse) next! Tigerboy1966 19:55, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Parable of the sunfish
I just wanted to say "thanks" for you dropping by the DYK review and getting the process started again. That was kind of you, and I appreciate it.
Replying here so as not to add more noise to the AN discussion. This is just my perspective, but by allowing GA's into DYK in the way proposed will take a lot of the control over which articles get chosen out of the experienced Good article editors hands. Since they will be on display a lot more, which means they will be subjected to a while lot more scrutiny, I would like to think that we can vet them before they are released. AIRcorn(talk) 21:12, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I also notified the project three days into the discussion, so everyone interested should have known about it. Not many of the regulars actually !voted, but some gave there opinions in the subsequent discussions, so were watching. AIRcorn(talk) 21:15, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know they were informed. If GAs are indeed merged with DYKs, it would be nice for GA to have some input on which ones get selected. Maybe have a GA holding area at DYK that could be watchlisted at GA? Froggerlauraribbit 21:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ideally, if merging is to happen, I would like just one dedicated GA slot that can be chosen by GA editors (checked again at DYK if they wish). Would alleviate some of the concerns about flooding DYK and increasing their workload that were brought up during the RFC and would allow us to make sure that only good Good articles were submitted. I think Resolute might have a decent idea that could satisfy both our projects, but probably not some of the community. Failing that some easy way that myself and other interested editors can check submitted good articles would be useful, I was planning on doing something similar anyway. AIRcorn(talk) 21:58, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think the main reason the discussion for GA getting its own slot failed is that none of the current projects want to give up any space. A way around that issue would be to rotate mainspace time with another project using the same slot. It wouldn't be necessary to merge with DYK (keeping DYK core principles intact) because GA would have their own project administered and reviewed (using DYK's bots) slot for a given day "GA Friday: a selection of the newest GA articles" or something to that effect that GA members (who are better suited to reviewing against GA guidelines than DYK members) would decide on. I am not opposed to having GAs on the mainpage, but if merged I'm afraid of the free-for-all nomination onslaught/poor quality GAs that might slip through (we have enough problems already with the reg DYKs) that DYK will get called out on. There is also the issue of DYK members staging a revolt if the proposal passes (very likely we will lose some key members) and they feel slighted. I hope the review overturns the ruling for the sake of peace. Froggerlauraribbit 17:24, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is a case of "not in my backyard" and as the new kids on the block GA are at a disadvantage. On top of that there is a strong resistance to change here and "no consensus" defaulting to the status quo makes implementing new ideas even harder. This has been my first real foray into the DYK talkpages (it is dominating my watchlist at the moment) and I would say it does need to adapt. There are even proposals to get rid of the whole thing completely, which received more support than I thought it would. I made my own one there, which might have got lost in the noise, but basically suggested that GAs are given one of the hooks per day to fill from within the project. You have five or six on the main page so it won't completely flood out new articles, will provide some quality as GA can vet the ones to feature (much like the other featured projects) and could ultimately take some of the workload off DYK (if it was me I would remove the 5x criteria as that seems to have been implemented to increase the numbers and goes against the new article philosophy as brought up by some at the RFC). I think it might even appease some of your harshest critics as the quality of the articles would increase and if we use having a decent hook as one of the selection criteria then so will the interest of the hooks (two of their biggest complaints as far as I can tell). I do think the two projects could work together for everyones benefit (including the readers). I get the impression though that DYK has been attacked so much that there is a bit of a siege mentality going on, where every new idea is seen as a new attack and must be quickly opposed. AIRcorn(talk) 21:19, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I feel the same way and those are good suggestions. Most of the animosity also comes from having the GA proposal come so close (actually during) the ongoing Gibraltar drama that DYK is also facing at the moment. There probably is a feeling that there is some sort of "conspiracy" that the community wants to do away with DYK and supplant it with GAs (silly I know), but given some of the comments in the proposal by long time opponents of DYK, there is a grain of truth to those fears. I think if there was some way to let the DYK editors know that A) People are not out to get them and B) GA editors will not abandon the nomination process (leaving DYK holding the bag) after the vote is over, there would be more acceptance. A show of project GA support by helping DYK clear the current backlog might be seen as a peace offering. Froggerlauraribbit 21:35, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also I think the logic with the 5x expansion was that in 5 days, the amount of new, added content has essentially created a "new" article (bending the rules IMHO). Froggerlauraribbit 21:52, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again
Thanks so much for helping me out with the stud records of classic winning fillies. Despite my best efforts (I do try honestly), I can't seem to find my way around the GSB as well as you do. Please watch out for an upcoming article on Camarine, who never won a classic, and didn't do much at stud (as far as I know), but might just have been the best racemare of the first half of the nineteenth century. Tigerboy1966 22:24, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to help. I finally got Winkipop out of my sandbox after languishing for months (poor Hannah's still there). The GSB is not very intuitive especially with the revised editions. Google search on the books is also not complete, a horse will not show up on a text search but she will be listed in the index (ran into this with Young Mouse). Also if there was no info on a horse, she didn't get included in future editions, so a horse would show up in v4, skip v5-6 and finally be reported on in v7 that she died 15 years previously. Well, at least there's a record for the mares- stallions are difficult to track. And don't even mention export to Germany, total brick wall there. Froggerlauraribbit 23:21, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Camarine's stud career appears to be quite brief, she died on 20 March 1841 one hour after foaling a Bay Middleton filly (which also died) [12]. Four of her five foals died young with the only survivor being a colt called Glenlavit (couldn't find anything on him). [13]
Thanks for the help. Just finished the article, which grew into a bit of an epic, but she was a remarkable racehorse, who has been almost totally forgotten. Glenlivat, by the way, was gelded and turned out to be a fair-to-middling staying handicapper. Tigerboy1966 19:13, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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City and Suburban Handicap
Hi, I changed the reference for the time of the 1899 running. I think the 1:18 must have been a misprint, the other reference says 2:18. Cheers, Edwarddutton (talk) 09:18, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I kind of thought it was a misprint. Newhaven was fast but not that fast. Froggerlauraribbit 13:39, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Froggerlaura, the nomination has been approved. Congratulations! Can you please let us know whether you want it for April Fools, in which case we should move it to the special April Fools area before it gets grabbed by someone assembling a current prep set? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:04, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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A few months ago, you participated in a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Did you know about Gibraltar-related DYKs on the Main Page. I am proposing that the temporary restrictions on such DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012, should be lifted and have set out a case for doing so at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Gibraltar-related DYKs. If you have a view on this, please comment at that page. Prioryman (talk) 22:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What was it with the horses anyway, was there an event happening at the time? Just curious... Prioryman (talk) 00:06, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think Tigerboy1966 was doing the Wikicup for that September peak (seem to recall there was some nomination/QPQ drama). The smaller one at the beginning of the year was finishing up the list of Derby winners. Another WP Horse racing member, Edwarddutton also started editing around that time too. Froggerlauraribbit 02:25, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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This redirect should have never been done. If anything, it should have been a page move to preserve editing history. Not that it matters, I've redirected it back since User:PlotSpoiler wrongly page-moved O. D. Anosike anyway. Jrcla2 (talk) 01:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, pick one name for the DYK nom and stick with it even if the page later gets renamed. Otherwise the links don't direct to the right page. There were two O.D. and O. D. pages causing an error from the main nom page. Sorry about the history. Froggerlauraribbit 01:37, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Article Feedback deployment
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William
Thanks for the correction. I really should remember that a blank season does not mean that a horse has either died or been retired. In my defence I should point out that "william" is an absolute pig of a search term and that I was probably distracted by the build-up to Sprinter Sacre's race at Cheltenham today. I don't suppose you have anything on the later life of Otterington, another Leger winner who seems to disappear from view rather abruptly. Tigerboy1966 23:29, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Asking for help again...
Just finished an article on Sancho (horse), which was quite fun to do as his owner was an archetypal Regency hell-raiser. The horse retired in 1807, started very well at stud, but disappears after 1810. I assume he either died or was exported but I've had no luck finding a source and he isn't on the list of stallion obituaries you helpfully added to Fyldener. As usual, any help would be appreciated. Tigerboy1966 22:44, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Mellish deserves his own article :) Is he talking about Sancho/Don Quixote in that caricature? I found Sancho in one of Skinner's copies of the General Stud book. The American copies sometimes have extra content. Kudos on finding the original painting of the Sancho/Hannibal match. Bourbon was unfortunately a dead end after 1779. Froggerlauraribbit 00:07, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help. Looking at the progeny Sancho did produce, his death was a big loss to Tb breeding. In the caricature Martin Hawke calls Mellish "Sancho" which is certainly a sly reference to the horse, as well as Cervantes. I suppose literary types saw one "joke" and the sporting fraternity spotted another. Tigerboy1966 20:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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I have tried to transfer free images of Blackstairmountain from flickr to commons, but have had no luck. I'm not sure if I am "doing it wrong" or if there is a problem with the bot/app/tool/thingy. Give it a look if you can please. Tigerboy1966 19:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The link from Commons has been throwing 404 errors lately. Here is the direct link [14]. I uploaded a few more of Blackstairmountain and made a category for him. The first step is to copy the Flickr url and rename the file, save and it should take you to a Commons page. Save the Commons page and then press the "click this link" to transfer the photo from the bot to Commons. If it's hanging up anywhere along the process, I think the bot is having issues. You can also manually transfer Flickr photos by using the main upload wizard. Froggerlauraribbit 19:55, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. The picture really adds to the article. Once again my "try, fail, give up" approach is found wanting. Tigerboy1966 21:12, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wizard
Thanks for the picture of Wizard, I spent quite a bit of time looking for one, and had no luck. I added a higher resolution image (from the same book) and I have also nominated the article for GA. Cheers, Edwarddutton (talk) 10:55, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar
Good work on the Morny Cannon page. It looks much better. RacingArchivist (talk) 13:15, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oxbow
Hey, thanks for your help on Oxbow, and sorry about the edit conflicts, I think I cleaned up any discrepancies and am now done for the evening. I don't follow racing closely and sometimes the charts Craiglduncan cited are gibberish to me and so I may have over-tagged some stuff that is verifiable by the charte. But I want to be sure we have solid sourcing on this article so anything you can do to help, Pleaseohplease, it is welcomed. Montanabw(talk) 05:16, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the chart! Next question: the height of the horse eludes me, news reports indicate that Oxbow is "small" (a relative term, that) and I am drawing a zero finding a source that lists height. Any help there? (Can't seem to find anything @ The Jockey Club or Equibase, but maybe I don't know where to look?) Montanabw(talk) 23:28, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can't seem to find an exact reference to his height beyond the subjective "average" in one article. I'll keep looking. Froggerlauraribbit 22:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Saw a quote from D. Wayne Lukas' girlfriend who said the horse "has a Napoleon complex," indicating he's on the small side, but again, totally subjective. (Though amusing way to put it). If you find anything, just pop it in. BTW, TonyTheTiger commented that we shouldn't have all caps titles in the refs, and I think most of the ones we have are your refs for the chart, can you tweak that?? ;-) (Hugs and thanks!) Montanabw(talk) 18:16, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Smiles-fun
Saw your edit on Paulding Farnham; forgot it was on my watchlist; I encountered that article while working on Yogo sapphire, which was one of the most fun collaborations I've ever done on wikipedia. Farnham was a remarkable fellow, wasn't he? BTW, it may be a little out of your Thoroughbred area, but I'm doing some research to improve Homer Davenport and found out that the reason that the Arabian horse registry was spun off from the Jockey Club was, apparently, because August Belmont, Jr. got mad at Davenport due to an unfavorable caricature of Belmont - Davenport was a political cartoonist. Seeing as how you have some interest in stuff related to Belmont, do you know anything about that spat that could be useful for the Davenport article? Any links, etc. would be welcomed. Thanks. Montanabw(talk) 17:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. Most fun I've had in awhile. I've added some source links to the article talk page. The dispute between Belmont and Davenport over the cartoon largely rests on hearsay (though Davenport believed it to be true). Apparently James R. Keene told Davenport that the reason that Belmont would not approve the pedigree registration for his imported Arabian horses is that Belmont was enraged by a Davenport cartoon (kind of tame if this is the one). Davenport raised his objection at a Jockey Club council meeting in May 1909, the minutes of which were recorded by Horse and Driver (I should have a copy in a few weeks through ILL). Another view is that at the time the ASB and GSB Arabian studbook registrations were so intertwined, that Davenport not registering through the GSB excluded him from registering in the ASB (his Bedouin pedigree records were dodgy). Faced with 27 potentially worthless horses, he cut his losses with the Jockey Club. Fascinating guy, the part about him working as a circus clown and having to apply linseed oil to the elephant almost got me ejected from the library :) Froggerlauraribbit 02:54, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely wonderful stuff! Thanks! Yeah, Davenport is pretty interesting; I also had a great time working on William Robinson Brown - those guys just were incredible in their "go for the gusto" approach to things. I hadn't run across that hathitrust.org source that you are able to access... how do you get results from there to pop up in a google search, or do you just go to it and search directly? Seems to have GREAT material! Montanabw(talk) 01:04, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes Google will pick stuff up, but most times I search directly from the site. Slightly harder to use is this New York newspaper database. Froggerlauraribbit 01:20, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Sortable table
The table is sortable. In fact, it's more sortable than it's ever been. Furlongs sort correctly, names sort by surname. What is your issue with this? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:48, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The sort arrows are not showing up, therefore it is not sortable. IE it will not sort. That is my problem with the current table. Froggerlauraribbit 20:49, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Incorrect. The table is sortable. Some columns are not sortable. Click on the columns that are sortable. Your problem isn't solved by your solution, it's made worse as your sorting is entirely incorrect. Blame Mediawiki. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:51, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
How so? I put the dates in MDY format as they should be in a US article. The names and distances were sorting correctly with bars that you can actually see in the table. Froggerlauraribbit 20:54, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, you said the table wasn't sortable? It is. Montanbw wanted the colour of the headings which precludes the arrows being displayed. Feel free to click on the headings, most sort. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:57, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my computer was being funny with the hidden sort feature. You can have the arrows and the heading color. That's what I was trying to do. Also why isn't age sortable since there are two values? Froggerlauraribbit 21:04, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ask Montanabw, I just made the table work technically, if she didn't want the age column to be sortable, that's a discussion for you and her. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:06, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry guys, my problem was that the whole table was so wide that it blew off my laptop screen, I was killing arrows. I un-sorted age because it is tied to date, so I figured they would go together, but I'm open to whatever works, minus width or whatever. (Also, why are a couple of the other columns wider than they need to be - Placing, for example?) If we have a sortable column, it makes sense for the arrows to show, so if someone can do that, I'm good with it. I liked the color because it broke up the page and made it easier to read. Montanabw(talk) 17:32, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for my bitchy attitude yesterday (sorry Rambling Man). I have to plead a Tigerboy and not edit while under the influence :) Yeah the missing arrows confused me but the table size seems to work ok now. The date should probably be swapped to mdy format to match the rest of the article. Froggerlauraribbit 18:33, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I totally cringe at table syntax, feel free to fix whatever you like, I'm hiding from this topic! LOL! Montanabw(talk) 21:26, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Paynter
Froggerlaura, with this source can you build your pretty chart in my Paynter sandbox and put the relevant stats into the infobox the way they are supposed to go? This is my first racehorse article to create from scratch and I'm not up on all the proper protocols used in WP Horse Racing (my previous horse "biographies" that I've created have mostly been on Arabians...) . Thanks! Montanabw(talk) 00:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I did a manual metric conversion for the mile and 70 yard thing in the article text. If you think it can be done more elegantly, go for it! ;-) and by the way I am VERY grateful for your help! Montanabw(talk) 19:42, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, manual is pretty much the only way to go with that strange distance. The weird 39/1000 mile thing in the chart is too ungainly for the text I think. No prob. If more terms need linking, just post on talk. Looks like it will pass :) Froggerlauraribbit 05:53, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think we have another thing to define in the glossary and to link at the Oxbow article: To "rate" a horse, i.e. as in Oxbow doesn't like to run off the pace and gets hard to handle when anyone tried. Thanks. Montanabw(talk) 19:24, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Linked rate and "Off the pace" for good measure. Froggerlauraribbit 19:50, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sweet! Thanks! You do have the FAC watchlisted? Maybe note there what you've defined. I wlll too, but overkill is good. Montanabw(talk) 22:17, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Froggerlaura, I've noticed that on a couple of occasions lately, you've added your comments to DYK templates at the very bottom of the editing page. Unfortunately, this puts it below the "Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line." notice at the bottom, and thus outside of the template. (To see an example, and the subsequent correction, take a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Portrait of Kitty, both your edit and Mandarax's subsequent correction.)
What happens is that if you place a comment at the very bottom, below the final "}}" that's immediately before the "Please do not write below this line" note, it isn't inside the template. When the nomination is finally promoted or rejected, the lines outside the template still show up on the nominations page (
T:TDYK
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Thanks for all the work you've been doing, and please keep this in mind for future edits. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:16, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It was once (Lone signal nom edit was made by another editor [15]), but okay. Froggerlauraribbit 04:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It was my fault ([16]), actually. Sorry for that.--JetstreamerTalk 21:38, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's okay Jetstreamer, not really an eye-gouging mistake :) Froggerlauraribbit 00:37, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about the mischaracterization. I couldn't find the other one, and just remembered that I'd had to move you there, too. I should have searched harder. With the work we do around here, we have enough eye strain without adding gouging to it... ;-) BlueMoonset (talk) 02:13, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Dickin medal
Beautiful job on Dicken Medal, you should put it up for DYK. Need any help to do so? Montanabw(talk) 19:08, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sure if you want to nom, I'm kind of busy in RL now. Thanks. Froggerlauraribbit 20:35, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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