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Hi Green Storm. It seems you have made some good contributions to Wikipedia, and I would like that to continue. However, it also seems that you don't understand the Copyright concepts. Copyright is taken very seriously on Wikipedia, and you risk getting blocked if you continue to use content (text or images) that is not free from copyright. You can't contribute if you get blocked. So please use good content, and continue with good contributions. Thanks. TGCP (talk) 17:39, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please use the talkpage to discuss proposed edits - many of your contributions have been copied in from external sources and Wikipedia mirrors. We want to update the sourcing, but not by copy/paste. Simply reverting Kuru isn't acceptable. Acroterion (talk) 17:56, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Acroterion, thank you for your message. I am new to Wikipedia and am making a sincere effort to work with Wikipedia's parameters. Per Kudu's e-mail, please note that I did make considerable changes to the sources cited (i.e. to each source that I believe mirrored other Wikipedia pages), before I saved Anton Flettner's page to a suggested new version. I would be very grateful for any of your suggestions on specific changes that I can make to make the new page version acceptable. Thank You!

A few observations on this big edit [1]:

• Can we find a source that isn't Britannica? Like WP it's a tertiary source, and secondary sources such as books are preferred.
• The duchmann.net page isn't usually the kind of page we'd cite - it's perhaps fine for confirming other sources, but a personal genealogy page isn't normally accepted as a reliable source.
• Internet fora are never acceptable: forum.largescaleplanes.com can't be used. They might give you confirmation of other material or point you in the right direction, but we never cite them.
• Personal letters aren't usable unless they've already been cited in published works, in which case the work should be cited, not the letter. This applies to the Hohenemser cite.
• Wikiwand is a Wikipedia mirror and can't be used: Wikipedia itself can't be cited, nor can a mirror.
• I haven't checked the text, but Kuru was concerned about text that closely resembled the sources. Acroterion (talk) 21:52, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You, Acroterion. Your remarks have been quite helpful in providing insight on requirements and preferences for WP.

I believe that I have now made all of the required changes to the references listed on Anton Flettner's WP. From my further research, the information contained within the dutchmann.net page referring to Anton Flettner is credible.

Last warning, please stop using "wikiwand" for sourcing. At this point, you seem to be doing it intentionally.Kuru (talk) 16:27, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kudu, please explain the issue with my sourcing. I honestly do not know how to use Wikiwand for sourcing so I can assure you there is nothing intentional. Thank You!

With this addition, you again re-added a link to the wikiwand. Click on that link and tell me which addresses you see in the text. Kuru (talk) 17:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I now see your point. I am dumbfounded as to how that happened. Anyway, I do have proper sources for that sentence. How can I edit the file now? I seemed to now locked out from adding a reference with the 'citation needed' listed at the end of this sentence.

Kuru, can you please help with a question? I have added new references as a response to the prior 'citation needed'. The Wikipedia page pulls up properly but the Wikiwand page still shows 'citation needed'!? Is there something that I can do to fix the Wikiwand page? Thank you in advance for your help!

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