User talk:Jlyster

February 2012

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welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Favonian (talk) 17:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply

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Your addition to Herbert Hoover has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. The material added was basically a direct copy of this article. Favonian (talk) 18:53, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Unfortunately it seems that your request to Favonian tripped one of Wikipedia's edit filters and was blocked from appearing on their talk page. I'm not sure why, but I'll leave Favonian a note pointing them here. You can post whatever you wanted to discuss on this page and they (or I) will try to help out. Regards, EyeSerene^talk 19:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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You can head over to User talk:Favonian. Favonian has it set up so that you can just click "Click here to start a new topic" at the top of the page. Just remember to follow the instructions posted at the top.

--Non-Dropframe _talk 19:19, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:CITE

has everything you'll ever need to know about that. Happy editing!

--Non-Dropframe _talk 19:20, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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What do you mean by "my" administrator? There are more than 1500 admins here on Wikipedia. See

Wikipedia:List of administrators/A-F

Dipankan ^{In the woods?} 15:56, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My initial draft of edit to Herbert Hoover wiki bio

Edit to Herbert Hoover article; Draft edit to the Herbert Hoover article, under the section headed "Mining Engineer"

Jlyster (talk) 09:50, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hoover went to Australia in 1897 as an employee of Bewick, Moreing & Co., a

Italian immigrants to cut costs and counter the union militancy

of the Australian miners.[5][6] He believed "the rivalry between the Italians and the other men was of no small benefit."[5] He also described Italians as "fully 20 per cent superior"[5] to other miners.

Hoover worked at gold mines in Big Bell, Cue, Leonora, Menzies and Coolgardie, Western Australia. [7][8] It was during his time in Western Australia, 1897-98, that Hoover first met Mr. Fleury James Lyster. ^[1] ^[2]

Hoover married his Stanford sweetheart,

learned Mandarin Chinese while he worked in China and used it during his tenure at the White House when they wanted to foil eavesdroppers.[9] The Boxer Rebellion trapped the Hoovers in Tianjin in June 1900. For almost a month, the settlement was under fire. Hoover himself guided U.S. Marines around Tianjin during the battle

, using his knowledge of the local terrain.[10]

Hoover was made a partner in Bewick, Moreing & Co. in 1901 and assumed responsibility for various Australian operations and investments. The company would eventually control approximately 50% of gold production in

Burma. He had his second majorly successful venture with the British firm Burma Corporation, again producing Silver, Lead and Zinc in large quantities at the Namtu Bawdwin Mine, where he had caught malaria

in 1907. By 1914, Hoover was an extemely wealthy man, with an estimated personal fortune of $4m. He was once quoted as saying "If a man has not made a million dollars by the time he is forty, he is not worth much". Sixty Six years after opening the mine in 1897, Hoover still had a partial share in the Sons of Gwalia mines when it finally closed in 1963, just one year before the former President's death in New York City in 1964. The successful mine had yielded $55m in gold and $10m in dividends for investors. Herbert Hoover, acting as a main investor, financier, mining speculator and organiser of men, played a major role in the important metallurgical developments that occured in Broken Hill in the first decade of the twentieth century, developments that had a great impact on the world mining and production of silver, lead and zinc. ^[3] ^[4] ^[5] ^[6] ^[7] ^[8] ^[9] ^[10] ^[11] ^[12] ^[13] ^[14] ^[15] ^[16] ^[17] ^[18]

^ [1] ANU
^ [2] ANU
^ [3] ANU
^ [4] ANU
^ [5] ANU
^ [6] ANU
^ Geoffrey Blainey, The Rush that Never Ended (Melb, 1963) - Froth and Bubble, Pg. 267-8
^ Geoffrey Blainey, The Rise of Broken Hill (Melb, 1968)
^ Nash, G.H. The Life of Herbert Hoover, vol. 1 - The Engineer, 1874-1914 (NY, 1983)
^ US Patent No. 1,203,372 and No. 1,380,665
^ [7] Stanford University, USA
^ Herbert Hoover, 1874-1964; chronology-documents-bibliographical aids, edited by Arnold S. Rice, 1971
^ Lyons, E., Herbert Hoover: a biography.1964
^ McNeill, J.R., Something New Under the Sun, an environmental history of the twentieth century world, 2000
^ Yergin, D., The Prize: The Quest for Oil, Money and Power, 1990
^ [8]. Rio Tinto Website, Rio Tinto Group. Retrieved 2012-02-13
^ [9] The Silver City: The Mining History. Line of Load Association.2002. Retrieved 2012-02-13
^ [10] Rio Tinto Review, Rio Tinto Group. September 2006, Retrieved 2012-02-13

In response to your feedback

Drop me a message and I'm happy to provide whatever assistance I can :).

Ironholds (talk) 23:14, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, you can probably get away with it as free content. If the photograph was published before 1923 in the United States, it's public domain :). Ironholds (talk) 01:56, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, once you've uploaded the image (through
Wikipedia:Upload, which I can help you through if you need it), it depends on what you want to do with the image. If you want to stick it in the infobox (the bug blue box with essential data on the top right of the page), you go to the "|image=" line and add the name of the file ("HerbertHoover.jpg" or whatever). If you want to add it to the article text, you go to the paragraph you want it to display next to and add "[[File:HerbertHoover.jpg|thumb|right or left, depending on which side you want it to be on|whatever text you want to appear underneath it]]". I appreciate it's stupidly complex; I cannot wait until they introduce a WYSIWYG editor. Ironholds (talk) 04:48, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply
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Actually before I started out on this effort I had only once before had any experience with html when I had a go at this visitor counter web page..........I found out about web page source properties from somewhere and just played around with the idea from looking at source code for other web pages.........kinda' exciting to see my bumbling efforts actually turn into something that worked on a web page. That was a few yrs ago and so if YOU think it is confusing then wow......majorly so for me. But actually, once you get the hang of it, it is very logical and so once you make a start it just becomes a matter of finding out all these conventions. Usually just seeing other edits is a way to copy and work it out for oneself. Anyway, I might just have a go at what you recommend and just use the thumbnail for now.........see what it looks like and if it is OK then that is it...........if the quality is too poor then it is back to the WA Library and see what they have to say about copyright for such an old image. Doesn't wikipedia have info on copyright for pre 1923 images in places outside of the USA? One thing I must say is that wiki is full of a bedazzlig array of help resopurces however it is all so cavernous, what with all the hyperlinks..........one gets lost when one is looking for a specific bit of help.Jlyster (talk) 05:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, agreed. We really need to structure our help documentation better :(. Okay, your linking was perfect! I've tweaked the words a bit (we try to avoid contractions and abbreviations like y.o.) but other than that it looks fantastic :). Ironholds (talk) 17:37, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like you found a perfect tag :). Should be okay now. Ironholds (talk) 04:58, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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More information needed about File:Hoover 1.jpg

Hello, Jlyster!

It was really helpful of you to you to upload File:Hoover 1.jpg. However, we need to properly format the image license information in order to keep and use new images.

If you can edit the description and add

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Thanks again! --ImageTaggingBot (talk) 14:07, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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page history. Thank you. Valfontis (talk) 15:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply

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About edit summaries

Hi there. When

editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field. If you are adding a section, please do not just keep the previous section's header in the Edit summary field – please fill in your new section's name instead. Thank you. Valfontis (talk) 15:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tips, I'll do my best to follow these in future Jlyster (talk) 17:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About copyright tags

To add a copyright tag, you don't need to reupload, and that actually doesn't work. The way to add a tag is simply to place the code on the file description page itself, rather than in the place where you type the reason that you're reuploading ("upload summary"); this is the way that it works. Humans can see from your upload summary that you attempted to add a license tag, so it likely wouldn't have been deleted for lack of a license, but bots (automated programs, such as ImageTaggingBot, which looks for licenses and which left the message on your talk page just above the "Editing tips" header) aren't able to read that and will thus mark the image for deletion unless you actually place the code on the file description page itself. Any questions? Feel free to ask me at my talk page. Nyttend (talk) 12:51, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thx for your feedback and help Jlyster (talk) 13:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[1] [1] ANU

[2] [2] ANU

[3] [3] ANU

[4] [4] ANU

[5] [5] ANU

[6] [6] ANU

[7] Geoffrey Blainey, The Rush that Never Ended (Melb, 1963) - Froth and Bubble, Pg. 267-8

[8] Geoffrey Blainey, The Rise of Broken Hill (Melb, 1968)

[9] Nash, G.H. The Life of Herbert Hoover, vol. 1 - The Engineer, 1874-1914 (NY, 1983)

[10] US Patent No. 1,203,372 and No. 1,380,665

[11] [7] Stanford University, USA

[12] Herbert Hoover, 1874-1964; chronology-documents-bibliographical aids, edited by Arnold S. Rice, 1971

[13] Lyons, E., Herbert Hoover: a biography.1964

[14] McNeill, J.R., Something New Under the Sun, an environmental history of the twentieth century world, 2000

[15] Yergin, D., The Prize: The Quest for Oil, Money and Power, 1990

[16] [8]. Rio Tinto Website, Rio Tinto Group. Retrieved 2012-02-13

[17] [9] The Silver City: The Mining History. Line of Load Association.2002. Retrieved 2012-02-13

[18] [10] Rio Tinto Review, Rio Tinto Group. September 2006, Retrieved 2012-02-13

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