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Happy template editing! Cabayi (talk) 20:18, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

"With or without the use of the voice" means exactly what it says -- sometimes the use of handsigns was accompanied by the use of the voice (not necessarily only speaking), and sometimes it wasn't. AnonMoos (talk) 09:44, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@AnonMoos: I guess I'm confused. Wouldn't the use of handsigns without voice be something entirely different from chironomia? And saying that it is of "great antiquity" seems like a huge understatement. Chimpanzees use at least 66 different hand gestures to communicate,[1] so "effective use of the hands" to communicate likely predates the human species and obviously wasn't limited to the Greeks and Romans. When the article says that use of the hands with or without the use of the voice was "developed and systematized by the Greeks and the Romans", what is it referring to? Is there some form of rhetoric that doesn't involve speaking? Not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just confused. Kaldari (talk) 15:27, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Natural gesturing is of indefinite ancientness, but in Classical antiquity, various subgroups had developed codified systems of gestural communication, of various degrees of elaborateness -- think of American football referees today. And the "with or without the use of the voice" sentence isn't explaining what Chironomia was -- it's explaining the background within which Chironomia developed... AnonMoos (talk) 20:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@AnonMoos: I did some digging and I figured out why the paragraph is so confusing. The original version of the article did actually describe Chironomia "as the art of gesticulating... with or without the assistance of the voice", and said it was "practiced by the Greeks and Romans" (all without any sources of course). In actuality, Chironomia is gesticulating while speaking (or more specifically, gesticulation as part of rhetorical delivery) and was developed and codified in the 1600s and has no specific direct relationship to Greek or Roman oration. (In fact, John Bulwer, who basically invented Chironomia, was apparently inspired by Francis Bacon's criticism that the Greeks ignored gesticulation. Apparently the Greeks were obsessed with cultivating their speaking voices instead.) Subsequent editors of the article tried to make it more factual, but left awkward remnants of the original version in ways that don't really make sense. Would it be OK with you if I try to clean-up the article with some significant revisions? Kaldari (talk) 22:12, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

The original article was likely confusing "chirologia" with "chironomia". Chirologia, which was also developed by John Bulwer, was basically an early form of sign language. Kaldari (talk) 23:01, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Sure, if that is what it is indicated by the facts. AnonMoos (talk) 02:51, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

I assume we use "lighttpd" and not "lighttpd-plain" as our webservice.

https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Web/Lighttpd

I ask since it appears that for quite some time the bot was running TWO PHP servers instead of one since the default in lighttpd is to define one.

https://github.com/ms609/citation-bot/blob/master/.lighttpd.conf

This meant that category type runs ran over all the pages twice.

I am thinking that we could switch so that we control the PHP server, so we have more control. There is a bit of of a chicken and the egg situtation here, in that I don't want to update the httpd config file only to run two servers again, but even worse I don't want to switch servers only to have the config file set to run nothing.

AManWithNoPlan (talk) 14:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Or is it possible that the lighttpd config file does not get read since the php lives in a subdirectory? AManWithNoPlan (talk) 12:32, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@AManWithNoPlan: Honestly I don't know. I don't have much knowledge of server administration. Is there a way I can check. I'm curious why you're not a maintainer on the citation tool. It seems like things would be easier for you to manage if you were. Apologies if you've already told me why and I forgot. Kaldari (talk) 15:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Can you change the service.template file (if there is one to say "cpu: 1000m" instead of the default value with is half a cpu. And then restart it. I am looking at getting an account. There were reasons I could not in the past. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@AManWithNoPlan: No, there is no service.template currently. I'd be happy to create one if you think it's useful. Kaldari (talk) 16:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I think it would be a good idea. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 16:07, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

@AManWithNoPlan: Done. I set it to 1 cpu and 4 gigs of memory. Kaldari (talk) 22:57, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

That helped. At some point I need to look at the lighttpd.conf file, but that can wait. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Your edit added information that Connie Meijer died of a heart attack during that criterium but that information does not appear in the cited source, a Der Spiegel article. I looked at her Wikipedia article and there's nothing there about her cause of death. I wanted you to know that I am reverting your edit and why. If you can find a reliable source, etc., etc. Thanks for editing the List. Shearonink (talk) 02:23, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi. If you can do it yourself, or maybe together with people you like to work with and can call up via talk-page, please try to rewrite that paragraph, because as of now almost none of it makes any sense, it's full of editing and logical mistakes making it almost incomprehensible. That "original research" could hardly have added any harm to it :)) Thank you, Arminden (talk) 17:55, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Arminden: That's a very good point! I know the gist of what the paragraph is trying to convey, but you are correct that it is poorly written and confusing. I'll try to rewrite it here soon. Kaldari (talk) 15:13, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

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Please see WT:WikiProject Spiders#Articles on nomina dubia. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:47, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kaldari. Can we use your bot in WikiProject Medicine of Malay Wikipedia? This is the page for the statistics. CyberTroopers (talk) 16:21, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Dear

) You are the only Wikipedia editor who revert Constructive edits of worthy Volunteers Wikipedia Editors without making sense of Notability, You impose only one law of Wikipedia instead following the Wikipedia laws allowing Volunteers wikipidians editors for making constructive edits in articles, I have checked and gone through the record of your Edit Contributions and I found your contribution 94 1% based on reverting and deleting the contents of Wikipedia Volunteers deliberately just to show your self as a superior editor and nothing else, for example you had reverted the Photograph of in the article of Dur Mohammad Kassi with the remarks that you will show how this pic came, I show you that how this pic has been provided to net, this Photograph is soul property of Prof:- PHD Haji akhtar Muhammad kassi brother of haji dur Muhammad kassi who released it From the personal collections of photographs of Dur Muhammad Kassi for public & Common use 09-02-2010, and this was published in [[2]] on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 with permission of Prof:- PHD Haji akhtar Muhammad kassi brother of haji dur Muhammad kassi, In the light of above facts you are once again requested to please refrain from my constructive edits by making unnecessary reverts,

I Wish you the Best and Happy New Year 2021 few hours in advance, (101.53.244.100 (talk) 14:02, 31 December 2020 (UTC)).

That is nonsense.

talk

) 14:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

• • Please no abusing language and refrain from personal attack Assume good faith (click the link to read the Wikipedia guideline) Every Constructive edit looks to you nonsense because I just show your edit history that what you are doing with the articles only Revereting the edits of Wikipedia Volunteers I have not seen any progressive change in your edits for the betterment and improvement of an article except few ones which are on your agenda, I have no personal attacked on you instead you did on me else-here I wished you Happy New Year in advance, please be positive like other thousands of Wikipedia editors and come out from negative thinking, the world is full of professional and progressive Wiki editors who make positive and constructive edits for the development of articles,

You must be sorry for uncivilized language, Happy Editing, (101.53.244.100 (talk) 15:14, 31 December 2020 (UTC)).

• • • Mr.
      talk) you were requested on 31st December 2020 to please keep away from the useless reverts and deletions of contestants and Photograph in this article of Dur Mohammad Kassi
      but you are still stsnds on your agenda of an worthless editor who revert Constructive edits of worthy Wikipedian Volunteers Editors without making sense of Notability, You are clearly Violating constructive laws of Wikipedia instead discouraging the Wikipedia Volunteers and wikipidians editors for making constructive edits in articles,

I have once again checked and gone through the record of your Edit Contributions and I found your contribution more then 94% based on deliberately reverting and deleting the contents of Wikipedia Volunteers just to show your self as a professional editor and nothing else, for example you had reverted three times the Photograph of Dur Mohammad Kassi in the article with the remarks that you will show how this pic came, I had show you that how this pic has been provided to net, this Photograph is soul property of Prof:- PHD Haji akhtar Muhammad kassi brother of haji dur Muhammad kassi who released it From the personal collections of photographs of Dur Muhammad Kassi for public & Common use on 09-02-2010, and this was published in [[3]] on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 with permission of Prof:- PHD Haji akhtar Muhammad kassi brother of haji dur Muhammad kassi,

In another edit you reverted the name of the book of Dur Mohammad Kassi "The Art Of Documentary Production" to "last talk".

• • • • In other your edit like more you had reverted all the constructive information from the Article of Palay Khan with making no sense due to your nonconstructive edits this article is useless now.

In the light of above facts you are once again advised to refrain from my constructive edits by making unnecessary reverts,(101.53.244.101 (talk) 10:20, 27 January 2021 (UTC)).

I am Volunteer Wikipedia Editor and I have noted that User

) is unnecessary reverting and deleting my constructive edits made in the different articles for details I am placing the chat details between my self and him, Kindly look into the matter to resolve it,

Best Regards(101.53.244.101 (talk) 10:32, 27 January 2021 (UTC)).

Hey Kaldari, just FYI it looks like you've got a user script seemingly in use by others that has some bare javascript global wg-style variables, at User:Kaldari/wikilove.js. You've also got four others, but they're quite old and AFAICT they're unused:

• User:Kaldari/ReferenceTooltips.js
• User:Kaldari/test.js
• User:Kaldari/refToolbar 2.0.js
• User:Kaldari/refToolbar.js

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@Cyberpower678: Re change[4] by InternetArchiveBot which I have reverted. Website http://www.travelmate.com.au/MapMaker/MapMaker.asp has been dead for some years and archived versions are available but they do not work as the javascript in it does not work. Hence I had flagged the reference as a dead link yesterday which the bot deleted but changed to an archived version which serves no purpose. I have flagged this link as dead in a number of locations with Werrimull‎ as recently as this morning. Can we stop the bot from archiving links to this website please. On 12 February I asked in Template_talk:Infobox_Australian_place that the travelmate website no longer be recommended for use because of its status but so far no action appears to have been taken.Fleet Lists (talk) 02:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

This condescending edit summary is more than a little out of line. Please don't lecture me about my uncle's and brother-in-law's people. Guettarda (talk) 02:52, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@Guettarda: The comment wasn't meant for you specifically. It's just frustrating to see a bunch of completely new editors showing up and making a mess of these articles. I apologize if the comment was condescending. Kaldari (talk) 03:11, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey! Just a minor note, but it is generally best practice to mark edits that have been modified after others have responded (see

04:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@MarkH21: I would have, but I didn't notice your response until after I changed it, and since your reply still made sense, I figured it wasn't worth the trouble. Hope that's OK. Kaldari (talk) 04:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

This particular case doesn't really matter - I moreso just wanted to let you know the general practice in case you weren't already aware :) — MarkH₂₁^talk 04:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kaldari. Can we use your bot in WikiProject Medicine of Malay Wikipedia? It will be good if we have them there. CyberTroopers (talk) 14:54, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@CyberTroopers: HotArticleBot is only able to run on a single wiki and is configured for English Wikipedia. In order to run on Malay Wikipedia, a new instance of the bot would need to be created and configured. I don't have time to do this myself, but the code and instructions can be found at https://github.com/kaldari/hotarticles. Kaldari (talk) 13:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

That's so unfortunate. I'll try to figure out to solve it. Thanks anyways. CyberTroopers (talk) 13:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

So, you might the Creator of the Wikipedia Teahouse, I'm recognizing you. LooneyTraceYT (talk) 00:54, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Good evening, I have responded to your 3O request at Talk:Rob_Brezsny#Trump_prediction. I hope it may prove helpful. Regards, Springnuts (talk) 19:42, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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